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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
That's not really posibile. That would be an item of Dimensional Lock and since that is an 8th level spell it would be really expensive even for the standard 20 ft. Making that work over 1000 ft would be the domain of gods pretty much
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Uh, DP I though that was the point behind all those fluffed away area wardings? You know so we cant just scry and die people inside their ancient castles and stuff? Or does that only apply to getting in but not out?

Or are you guys talking about an item of Dimensional Lock?
 
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Well, that kid's been geass'd. How do you all feel about inspiring the wrath of Gods in a mother by telling her how it's such a shame her husband sold her son cheaply and made him a prisoner in his own body?
 
Abhishek M said:
Uh, DP I though that was the point behind all those fluffed away area wardings? You know so we cant just scry and die people inside their ancient castles and stuff? Or does that only apply to getting in but not out?

Or are you guys talking about an item of Dimensional Lock?
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The fluff behind that is Bran the Builder, Mythic Rank 10 Runecrafter, so practically a god in his area of expertise

Anyway, good night guys see you in the morning with more politics and intrigue.
 
What should we say to him, ya'll?

[X] Find and speak to Lord Lothar Mallery
-[X] After locating Lord Mallery, before making our presence known first examine him to check for signs of lingering enchantment, then thoroughly examine his memories of his meeting with the Lannister delegation. Also look for signs of memory modification.
-[X] TBD
 
I'm skeptical about the idea that a Lannister showed up, made it clear they were trying to ensure the loyalty of this house, then said "by the way your kid is a mage, we're taking him now" and the guy just let them. None of the possibilities are terribly nice, especially considering the broadsheets he should have read by now.

Can we do a divination to check if the kid is bound yet? Vague accusations of mage binding are one thing, proving Tywin enslaved the second son of a crownlander lord is another, and would probably flip the whole region.

The real trick would be to rescue him while disguised as other people; perhaps concerned Alchemist remnants, Old Gods worshippers concerned about druids being taken, or something like that? "Independent" confirmation of one of our worst accusations would implicitly support all of the rest of them.

Now that I'm thinking about it, if Tywin is comfortable pulling this so quickly with one noble kid, why would he only do it once? He might have handfuls of slave mages from the aristocracy we could save. Any region he pulled this on would instantly see this as an existential threat, and it makes for a good lead into exposing his bound lords.
 
Goldfish said:
What should we say to him, ya'll?

[X] Find and speak to Lord Lothar Mallery
-[X] After locating Lord Mallery, before making our presence known first examine him to check for signs of lingering enchantment, then thoroughly examine his memories of his meeting with the Lannister delegation. Also look for signs of memory modification.
-[X] TBD
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[ ] "My Lord, I do not mean to alarm you, but you realize you have given the Lannisters a hostage and allowed them to place bindings upon him such that he was more a slave than any of the millions I ever struck the chains from, yes? Even the worst of the Magisters I executed for human atrocities did not march up to the gallows and thank me for the privilege of not dirtying their city with their life's blood."

Too on the nose? This is why I suggested the mother first, she can get out all the sick burns for us. In fact, we can forge a telepathic link with her and give her suggestions, then we get to play good cop at the same time.
 
BronzeTongue said:
I'm skeptical about the idea that a Lannister showed up, made it clear they were trying to ensure the loyalty of this house, then said "by the way your kid is a mage, we're taking him now" and the guy just let them. None of the possibilities are terribly nice, especially considering the broadsheets he should have read by now.

Can we do a divination to check if the kid is bound yet? Vague accusations of mage binding are one thing, proving Tywin enslaved the second son of a crownlander lord is another, and would probably flip the whole region.

The real trick would be to rescue him while disguised as other people; perhaps concerned Alchemist remnants, Old Gods worshippers concerned about druids being taken, or something like that? "Independent" confirmation of one of our worst accusations would implicitly support all of the rest of them.

Now that I'm thinking about it, if Tywin is comfortable pulling this so quickly with one noble kid, why would he only do it once? He might have handfuls of slave mages from the aristocracy we could save. Any region he pulled this on would instantly see this as an existential threat, and it makes for a good lead into exposing his bound lords.
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You're thinking too short term, independent and secondary confirmation that Tywin is enslaving noble scions of prominent noble Houses will start a fucking war.

It's one thing if we tell a noble "yeah Tywin is totally doing that, but keep quiet and be patient we're dealing with it".

Make it public knowledge and it's FUBAR.
 
@Goldfish
Points of discussion:
A) We know that the Lannisters have been using Geas to bind mages into their service, And suspect they might looking to do the same to Lords, this might be a plot to usurp their house .
B) Primer on Magic, he is not a dangerous creature to be controlled, he would do just fine on his own, and if he desires training we can provide better.
C) The easiest way to get him back would be for his wife to fake an illness (poor woman took it badly) and that she wishes to see her son in case she dies.
 
Crake said:
[ ] "My Lord, I do not mean to alarm you, but you realize you have given the Lannisters a hostage and allowed them to place bindings upon him such that he was more a slave than any of the millions I ever struck the chains from, yes? Even the worst of the Magisters I executed for human atrocities did not march up to the gallows and thank me for the privilege of not dirtying their city with their life's blood."

Too on the nose? This is why I suggested the mother first, she can get out all the sick burns for us. In fact, we can forge a telepathic link with her and give her suggestions, then we get to play good cop at the same time.
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I agree, the mother should be approached first.

[X] Crake
 
[X] Approach Lady Mallery first, as an ally and one who knows much of the Lannisters' activities, and why she is very, very astute for thinking ill of the Lannisters' intent and should be alarmed that they are anywhere near her kin, since they shouldn't be trusted with their own kin, let alone the sons and daughters of other noble Houses.
-[X] Using divination, your native grasp of human psychology and advice from your mother on how to make this approach. Once we have gotten her firmly informed on the absolute worst case scenarios--with the best case being the Lannisters having a hostage and offer little of actual value to House Mallery in truth beyond the promise of violence--their son is likely now a prisoner in his own body thanks to the careless actions of Lord Mallery... or was it?
-[X] If they're not above binding noble scions of prominent Crownlander Houses--and you know Tywin isn't beyond binding his own Lords for certain--what stops them from enchanting a Lord into selling his children into slavery with a smile on his face and thanking them for the privilege?
 
Crake said:
[X] Approach Lady Mallery first, as an ally and one who knows much of the Lannisters' activities, and why she is very, very astute for thinking ill of the Lannisters' intent and should be alarmed that they are anywhere near her kin, since they shouldn't be trusted with their own kin, let alone the sons and daughters of other noble Houses.
-[X] Using divination, your native grasp of human psychology and advice from your mother on how to make this approach. Once we have gotten her firmly informed on the absolute worst case scenarios--with the best case being the Lannisters having a hostage and offer little of actual value to House Mallery in truth beyond the promise of violence--their son is likely now a prisoner in his own body thanks to the careless actions of Lord Mallery... or was it?
-[X] If they're not above binding noble scions of prominent Crownlander Houses--and you know Tywin isn't beyond binding his own Lords for certain--what stops them from enchanting a Lord into selling his children into slavery with a smile on his face and thanking them for the privilege?
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I have no issue with visiting her first, I just have some suspicion that Mother won't survive his hunting trip, courtesy of Lannister interference. Even if the son they've got a hold of is the spare.

[X] Crake
 
Goldfish said:
I have no issue with visiting her first, I just have some suspicion that Mother won't survive his hunting trip, courtesy of Lannister interference. Even if the son they've got a hold of is the spare.

[X] Crake
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We can raise him if necessary, and the mother is more able to influence the actual heir with the absence of the father in fact, so in some ways it is advantageous if Lord Mallery dies. The stupid gits didn't get the heir.
 
[X] Approach Lady Mallery first, as an ally and one who knows much of the Lannisters' activities, and why she is very, very astute for thinking ill of the Lannisters' intent and should be alarmed that they are anywhere near her kin, since they shouldn't be trusted with their own kin, let alone the sons and daughters of other noble Houses.
-[X] Using divination, your native grasp of human psychology and advice from your mother on how to make this approach. Once we have gotten her firmly informed on the absolute worst case scenarios--with the best case being the Lannisters having a hostage and offer little of actual value to House Mallery in truth beyond the promise of violence--their son is likely now a prisoner in his own body thanks to the careless actions of Lord Mallery... or was it?
--[X] While you are at it shoot some divination toward what might have been done to Lord Mallery and his now-hostage son, as it could greatly effect the outcome of every conversation to follow.
-[X] If they're not above binding noble scions of prominent Crownlander Houses--and you know Tywin isn't beyond binding his own Lords for certain--what stops them from enchanting a Lord into selling his children into slavery with a smile on his face and thanking them for the privilege?
--[X] Send Varys to keep watch on Lord Mallery and if necessary ensure his safety. Give her another Sending Stone and Teleport charm in case of emergency.
 
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Deliste said:
Unspoken Name

We could probably craft a higher level version to have it be cast on our behalf or cover a wider area.

As usual Time is the real issue, we're in vogue and on the lips of many.
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@Thread

We have quite a few titles given to us by our enemies e.g. Blood Dragon

Do we know which, if any, of these are not repeated by the general public?

We might not be able to hear someone in Westeros but it's a low enough slot it might be worth keeping a passive ear out for loose lips.

@Duesal @TotallyNotEvil @Crake @TalonofAnathrax

Tagging you individually because I have memory of you each being amused by an enemy given appellations.
 
Deliste said:
@Thread

We have quite a few titles given to us by our enemies e.g. Blood Dragon

Do we know which, if any, of these are not repeated by the general public?

We might not be able to hear someone in Westeros but it's a low enough slot it might be worth keeping a passive ear out for loose lips.

@Duesal @TotallyNotEvil @Crake @TalonofAnathrax

Tagging you individually because I have memory of you each being amused by an enemy given appellations.
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Dragonspawn is actually pretty rare enough that I suspect in some ways only the most sycophantist of sycophants emulate Robert. In fact on average if there are 100 usages of it in Westeros per day I suspect 90 of them would be by Baratheon. :V
 
Crake said:
[X] Approach Lady Mallery first, as an ally and one who knows much of the Lannisters' activities, and why she is very, very astute for thinking ill of the Lannisters' intent and should be alarmed that they are anywhere near her kin, since they shouldn't be trusted with their own kin, let alone the sons and daughters of other noble Houses.
-[X] Using divination, your native grasp of human psychology and advice from your mother on how to make this approach. Once we have gotten her firmly informed on the absolute worst case scenarios--with the best case being the Lannisters having a hostage and offer little of actual value to House Mallery in truth beyond the promise of violence--their son is likely now a prisoner in his own body thanks to the careless actions of Lord Mallery... or was it?
-[X] If they're not above binding noble scions of prominent Crownlander Houses--and you know Tywin isn't beyond binding his own Lords for certain--what stops them from enchanting a Lord into selling his children into slavery with a smile on his face and thanking them for the privilege?
--[X] Send Varys to keep watch on Lord Mallery and if necessary ensure his safety.
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Make sure Varys has a Sending Stone and Teleport charm, just in case.
 
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