Remove ads

A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Reader mode
Thinking about charisma, flaws and stat, I started to wonder about Robert's char sheet... it must be a hilarious mix which would give a munchkin an aunerysm. Superb charisma along with negative wisdom and low intelligence, plus a good martial stat... I guess he'd be a pretty fun character to play/roll in a tabletop session.
 
Sorry for double posting but this is important!

Guys, we need Lya to fabricate a million red painted toy dragons for the Festival and give them to the kids! Heck way not to a whole line of action figures? Viserys the ruler, Lya the mage, Ser Richard (comes with an extra set of teeth:V) etc etc. We can also fabricate figures of the evil Damphair and its (gifted separately) squad of aberration tainted foot soldiers. I know I'd like that if I were a kid, especially living in a pre industrial society... they could collect them and play mock battles with their friends! I bet Theon and his pet dinasour would be the favorite one...

Seriously though, this would cost a few hours and a few fabricates, and be a pretty good PR boon and an aid for our budding national spirit. We could even set a designated hour to build figures of minotaur soldiers, Little Valyrians, SD mages and even (especially!) Legionnaires, complete with officers and standard bearers.

Edit: I don't remember who originally voiced the idea of doing a line of figurines (of a Red Dragon), but the idea is pure gold.
 
Last edited:
Crake said:
[X] "If it is the nature of man to be quick to speak, quick to decide and quick to bequeath, then the short answer is Viserys and Daenerys Targaryen, King of the Stepstones and Princess of the Blood, respectively. Heirs to an ancient bloodline powerful in magic. The longer answer is more complicated. Lords of Flame and Sky, two of the last scions of the fallen of Old Valyria, the Dragonlords. In the dawning new age of sorcery we are the strongest champions against the raging and howling wind blown from the north, the grasping tentacles of the deeps, or the profane duplicity from the Pit, the strongest that could be named not just by pride but grim outlook. Of those with the will to bear a blade against the coming darkness, we gather strength and fellowship the fastest and with the surest of purposes in mind. To protect this world from the depredations of others and men both."
-[X] "My sister's domain is that of the Dreaming, but it is in the mortal realm where I am strongest. Though the purity of purpose does sometimes cloud the mind, I am not the flame, though I do make use of it, just as she has a seeming of a forgotten age, but is present."
-[X] Viserys trails off... "Oh. And Ser Richard Lonmouth, known as the Knight of Skulls and Kisses. A sure and able protector, for that is his duty and he does it well."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
@Crake, mostly good, but don't say "Others". She just warned us that it draws their attention, and ignoring that advice will make her upset and anxious and generally harder to diplomance. But other than that it's pretty much everything I would have wanted to say. Any questions she might have Viserys and Dany would be happy to answer.

[X] Crake

EDIT: Also sneak in some mention of how many creatures of magic have begun gathering in Sorcerer's Deep. ;)
EDIT 2: Fey, Arcanums, Awakened Little Valyrians, Minotaurs, Tritons, Aberration-Tainted, Tieflings, etc. Oh, and our magelings. If I'm right about this Child of the Forest that should get her to perk up in interest.
 
Last edited:
Okay so, @Duesal. I'm at work right now, but when I get home I will rework my plan.

And instead of singing a song (which we aren't that great at... yet), I'll do better.

I'll tell her an Epic.
 
Oh no. The children of the forest love taking forever saying simple things. Viserys loves hearing the sound of his own voice and now has an excuse to talk without end. Bloodraven will rue the day he introduced Viserys and the Children of the Forest.
 
Diomedon said:
Oh no. The children of the forest love taking forever saying simple things. Viserys loves hearing the sound of his own voice and now has an excuse to talk without end. Bloodraven will rue the day he introduced Viserys and the Children of the Forest.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Aren't they just the perfect fit for us?

Now I'm hopeful of getting a whole bunch of them to Sorcerer's Deep. If we're lucky we might be able to tempt them with a fetch quest to Ifeqevron to find their kin in Essos.
 
So to keep track of everything I'm crossing out questions on the List as they're answered.

A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover | Page 5597

And here are two more questions that came up with the recent updates.

62. Ask of the Realm of the Others where the great bear spirit was trapped. Ask of the nature of the realm, the rules it follows, and how one might enter or exit, or be trapped. Ask what creatures haunt such a place.
63. As we travelled north, you told us we were skimming the surface of another world. Was that the realm of the Others? If not, what realm was it?
 
So, got a bit... eh carried away with the idea of gifting kids (gotta cheer up the thread!) plentiful toys for the festival (which they can keep after it of course), so I took the chance to lay out what exactly that entailed. The goal here is for the kid to have fun with the figures (no instructions needed, give em the toys and kids shall kids) while at the same time reinforcing the unity of the Deep. As Lya can Fabricate these sets faster than a Chinese sweatshop, they shouldn't take any 'days' per se, and could even count as a fun side project. Didn't do any PC's because that might be a bit controversial with the Thread at large and maybe require a vote.

@DragonParadox What do you think? Can this pass muster for the coming Festival? Pretty please? :D:p



With the coming of the Festival, Lya decided to spice up the event with a line of figurines Fabricated from Wood, stone, or other such material appropriate for it, so that the children of SD can enjoy themselves as much as the adults. Viserys was quick to catch an interest in the informal project, intrigued by the prospect of further cementing SD's unity and status... some annoyance at the rumors of his reputation and that of the Deep might have also played a role in this, some say.

Sets (to be fabricated in mass, each individual figure standing atop a small platform so they can be moved independently of its set. Think plastic toy soldiers):

Minotaur Firefighters: This set of seven figures depicts the Minotaurs of SD defending the city from the terrible wildfire that sought to destroy it by the will of the Deep Ones. Two figures are dashing forwards, one holds a sledgehammer, while the other just puts its head forward as if to ram a wall. One figure is carrying a small child in his back, the small child hugging the minotaur's neck tightly and with his eyes closed. One figure holds a piece of wall against its back, bracing it. One figure seems slightly burned and steadies a human even as the human steadies him, both walking side by side. One figure holds a great bucket or tub, which can actually be filled with water. The last figure holds a shovel in one hand as his other hand is held up, as if trying to peer beyond the great illumination of a close by fire. A Little Valyrian stands by its shoulder, pointing at something and whispering in the minotaur's ear.

Tritons: This set of three figures depicts the Tritons of SD. One is a 'Protector', holding a trident with both hands and staring vigilantly forward, as if ready to attack. Another is a 'Merchant', depicting a Triton in the traditional garb of his trade, with sea conch necklaces and semi precious stone bracelets, gesturing to an invisible ware of doubtlessly great value. The third is a 'priest', depicting a wise looking Triton in the garb of their profession, stone tablet in one hand while the other is held up as if gesturing at an audience.

Little Valyrians: A set of eight adorable Little Valyrians in distinct poses, from laughter to serious contemplation. Some hold the tools of civilization, while others seem tailor made to leave hanging from a small branch our the edge of a table perhaps.

Calpinas: Two figures, one flying quickly and excitedly, the other dozing lazily.

Watchmen of the Deep: Six figures, all stylish and vaguely roguish without seeming overbearing or exaggerated, holding the tools and weapons of their trade in distinct poses, from patrolling to attacking. One sports a slightly irritated expression as it looks down, as if trying to catch a little prankster.

Queen Rhaella: The Ship itself in all its splendor, its deck big enough to hold other figurines itself!

Hunter's Moon: The famous ship of dashing Captain Moonsong. Moonsong not included.

Adepts of the Deep: Six figures in arcane robes, holding distinct poses from ritual, hostile spellwork, defensive spellwork, and studying.

Minotaur Shock Troops: Six figures, all in their plate armor and in distinct battle positions. Two of them have Little Valyrian shoulder gunners with crossbows or slings.

Yss' Adepts: Four figures of the followers of the Snake God. Two seem serene and the third is laughing benignly at something, the fourth one is casting a healing spell.

Raider Galley: A raider ship of the Deep, perfect for putting figures atop it!

Merchant Ship: A merchant cog from the Deep, perfect for putting figures atop it!

Raiders from the Deep: Eight figures in various roguish and badass positions, attacking with cutlass and hatchet or merrymaking with loot or wine.

Marines from the Deep: Four figures, the raider's more serious counterpart. They all look more heroic and uniform, holding distinct weapons from the raiders.

Sailors from the Deep: Ten figures, depicting all manner of sea men at their jobs.

Ser Gerold: The Captain Himself in a heroic pose.

Legionnaire Section (Soon): Nine legionnaires and their officer, all holding their weapons in various positions, perfect for great imaginary battles against the enemies of SD.

--

And because all action figures need an enemy... I present The Rouges Gallery!


The Damphair: An evil, important looking, deformed sorcerer holding its hands up, perhaps casting some sinister magic ritual... or maybe just gloating.

The Damphair's Henchmen: Eight figures, all holding improvised weapons or hatchets, extremely deformed beyond any current citizen of SD who still holds Deep One taint.

Deep One Sorcerers: Three ominous figures completely covered by robes in different casting positions.

Slaver Scum: Ten figures. Crew from a despicable slaver galley, armed and in various positions of attack or defense. Infinitely worse looking than the rather dashing Raiders from the Deep.

Gloating Magister: Exactly what it says on the tin. Very Evil Looking. Also Fat.

Evil Slaver Ship: Wicked looking ship which can hold its own figures.

Shambling Zombies: Six distinct forms of shambling. Generic bad guys ready to be inserted into any adventure.

Evil Monsters: Lya knows best. Ten figures.

Evil Robed Chancellor: Fat, robed, bold, leering courtier with both hands under the other's sleeve. All similarities to Varys are accidental. We swear.

--

The battles those kids shall have... oh, one other thing. When I said no PC's... I lied. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Maellor and Glyra: The pair themselves in their adventuring garb, the positions they are in are such that creatively interpreted could range from fighting to exploring or merely guarding something. Glyra is smirking benignly while Maellor has an expression of resigned but good natured long sufferance. This set is a bit more scarce than the rest. One bonus, single issue set has Maellor tearing out his hair in frustration while Glyra laughs wholeheartedly.

--

So, what do you think @everyone, @DragonParadox ?
 
Last edited:
@DragonParadox This story is starting to sound more and more like it's happening in the Dresden Universe. I'm suddenly expecting either Toot-Toot and his Za Guard, or Santa Claus to pop out next.
 
Last edited:
bigbow said:
So, got a bit... eh carried away with the idea of gifting kids plentiful toys for the festival (which they can keep of course), so I took the chance to lay out what exactly that entailed. The goal here is for the kid to have fun with the figures (no instructions needed, give em the toys and kids shall kids) while at the same time reinforcing the unity of the Deep. As Lya can Fabricate these sets faster than a Chinese sweatshop, they shouldn't take any 'days' per se, and could even count as a fun side project. Didn't do any PC's because that might be a bit controversial with the Thread at large and maybe require a vote.

@DragonParadox What do you think? Can this pass muster for the coming Festival? Pretty please? :D:p



With the coming of the Festival, Lya decided to spice up the event with a line of figurines Fabricated from Wood, stone, or other such material appropriate for it, so that the children of SD can enjoy themselves as much as the adults. Viserys was quick to catch an interest in the informal project, intrigued by the prospect of further cementing SD's unity and status... some annoyance at the rumors of his reputation and that of the Deep might have also played a role in this, some say.

Sets (to be fabricated in mass, each individual figure standing atop a small platform so they can be moved independently of its set. Think plastic toy soldiers):

Minotaur Firefighters: This set of seven figures depicts the Minotaurs of SD defending the city from the terrible wildfire that sought to destroy it by the will of the Deep Ones. Two figures are dashing forwards, one holds a sledgehammer, while the other just puts its head forward as if to ram a wall. One figure is carrying a small child in his back, the small child hugging the minotaur's neck tightly and with his eyes closed. One figure holds a piece of wall against its back, bracing it. One figure seems slightly burned and steadies a human even as the human steadies him, both walking side by side. One figure holds a great bucket or tub, which can actually be filled with water. The last figure holds a shovel in one hand as his other hand is held up, as if trying to peer beyond the great illumination of a close by fire. A Little Valyrian stands by its shoulder, pointing at something and whispering in the minotaur's ear.

Tritons: This set of three figures depicts the Tritons of SD. One is a 'Protector', holding a trident with both hands and staring vigilantly forward, as if ready to attack. Another is a 'Merchant', depicting a Triton in the traditional garb of his trade, with sea conch necklaces and semi precious stone bracelets, gesturing to an invisible ware of doubtlessly great value. The third is a 'priest', depicting a wise looking Triton in the garb of their profession, stone tablet in one hand while the other is held up as if gesturing at an audience.

Little Valyrians: A set of eight adorable Little Valyrians in distinct poses, from laughter to serious contemplation. Some hold the tools of civilization, while others seem tailor made to leave hanging from a small branch our the edge of a table perhaps.

Calpinas: Two figures, one flying quickly and excitedly, the other dozing lazily.

Watchmen of the Deep: Six figures, all stylish and vaguely roguish without seeming overbearing or exaggerated, holding the tools and weapons of their trade in distinct poses, from patrolling to attacking. One sports a slightly irritated expression as it looks down, as if trying to catch a little prankster.

Queen Rhaella: The Ship itself in all its splendor, its deck big enough to hold a few figurines itself!

Adepts of the Deep: Six figures in arcane robes, holding distinct poses from ritual, hostile spellwork, defensive spellwork, and studying.

Minotaur Shock Troops: Six figures, all in their plate armor and in distinct battle positions. Two of them have Little Valyrian shoulder gunners with crossbows or slings.

Yss' Adepts: Three figures of the followers of the Snake God. Two seem serene and the third is laughing good naturally at something.

Raider Galley: A raider ship of the Deep, perfect for putting figures atop it!

Merchant Ship: A merchant cog from the Deep, perfect for putting figures atop it!

Raiders from the Deep: Five figures in various roguish and badass positions, attacking with cutlass and hatchet or merrymaking with loot or wine.

Marines from the Deep: Four figures, the raider's more serious counterpart. They all look more heroic and uniform, holding distinct weapons from the raiders.

Sailors from the Deep: Ten figures, depicting all manner of sea men at their jobs.


Legionnaire section (Soon): Nine legionnaires and their officer, all holding their weapons in various positions, perfect for great imaginary battles against the enemies of SD.

--

And because all action figures need an enemy... I present The Rouges Gallery!


The Damphair: An evil, important looking, deformed sorcerer holding its hands up, perhaps casting some sinister magic ritual... or maybe just gloating.

The Damphair's Mooks: Eight figures, all holding improvised weapons or hatchets, extremely deformed beyond any current citizen of SD who still holds Deep One taint.

Deep One Sorcerers: Three ominous figures completely covered by robes in different casting positions.

Slaver Scum: Ten figures. Crew from a despicable slaver galley, armed and in various positions of attack or defense. Infinitely worse looking than the rather dashing Raiders from the Deep.

Gloating Magister: Exactly what it says on the tin. Very Evil Looking. Also Fat.

Evil Slaver Ship: Wicked looking ship which can hold its own figures.

Shambling Zombies: Five distinct forms of shambling. Generic bad guys ready to be inserted into any adventure.

Evil Robed Chancellor: Fat, robed, bold courtier with both hands under the other's sleeve. All similarities to Varys are accidental. We swear.

--

The battles those kids shall have... oh, one other thing. When I said no PC's... I lied. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Maellor and Glyra: The pair themselves in their adventuring garb, the positions they are in are such that creatively interpreted could range from fighting to exploring or merely guarding something. Glyra is smirking benignly while Maellor has an expression of resigned but good natured long sufferance.

--

So, what do you think @everyone, @DragonParadox ?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

*groans*

Making me do math over figurines when I'm drunk. Fabricate spells don't grow on trees, you know? And it doesn't make things out of nothing, so we have to buy the base materials. So we need to math it out first, to see if Lya can produce this type of thing negligibly, or if it would have actual costs.

Okay, so SD's population at last accounting was 9200, so rounding up to 10,000 for quick estimates. To estimate the number of children present, I look at the range of percentage of population that's 0-14 (a good range for toy using children), which ranges from merely 13% in Macao to 50% in Niger (as an aside, I can't even begin to comprehend the impact on society the fact of having literally half your population being 14 or younger brings). Given SD's piratical nature and lack of sustained agriculture, the proportion of children to adults is going to be on the lower end because the inclination and incentives to have a family in SD just were not there historically, and children are not the best at transporting themselves to follow changing fortunes across the waves. I'll peg it at 15%, giving us roughly 1500 people ages 0-14, likely a bit unevenly distributed. That seems like a lot for a pirate haven, so I'll drop it another 5% to roughly 1000 to represent how under previous administrations being a kid in SD was likely extra hazardous.

So, we need to supply figurines to 1000 kids. I think the range of figurines is getting too broad, but each kid should get a hero and some villains to fight. I prefer the 1:24 scale for figurines (approx. 3 inches, or 75mm). Being very conservative, each figure should by volume be about 1 cubic inch, and if we provide each child with one "hero" and a set of 4 villains for them to defeat, that would require approx. 2.9 cubic feet of metal. Steel toys will rust, but still be sturdier than a lot of alternatives, and would let Lya make them as part of her testing to see if her smelter was put together correctly.

Looks like we'd use one casting of fabricate, and about 1450lbs of steel (or 29 sets of full plate). Given that we plan on making thousands of sets of full plate, that seems a reasonable use of the first successful small batch from the smelter, and serves as a nice statement to the breadth of uses we expect out of the thing (it is not simply an engine of war).
 
Crake said:
When we turn true dragon, we are totally taking some ranks in Perform: Sing.

I'd take even one... then we'd at least be able to carry a tune with our mad charisma.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Diomedon said:
No, Viserys needs humanizing flaws. How else will his sister tease him to entertain guests, proving his ability to take a joke and disproving those nasty rumors about his temper and unbounded arrogance? ;)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Maybe Perform(Oratory)? With some posters' uncontrollable urge to speechify, it seems fittings.
 
And yet again ya'll are going with the overly wordy option, despite knowing that we are speaking with a being with an alien mindset whose grasp of language is incredibly different than our own. We aren't going to impress Soft Strider with our ability to craft a speech.

Sorry @Crake, but it's like every conversation we have with someone north of the Wall has to devolve into speeching at them for some reason.

[X] "I am Viserys Targaryen, exiled prince and self-styled King in the Stepstones. I am of the blood of Old Valyria, a True Dragon in the making, and bulwark against that which preys on the helpless and the innocent. I am a warrior, a mage, and a scholar. I have journeyed north of the Wall seeking answers from the Three-Eyed Raven, eldest of my living kin. And I have come seeking fulfillment of a bargain upon which I place great importance."
-[X] Let Dany and Richard answer for themselves.
 
Last edited:
@Goldfish, put something about "shield that guards the realms of men" and I'm game.

Nice, short, sweet, and it lets Viserys work all his charm and charisma IC.

Also, like hell we're not taking credit for regularly saving the fucking world.
 
[X] Goldfish

Works for me, short enough to not sound like a monologue, but still flowery enough to sound like it came out of Visery's mouth :V

Now that you mention it @Duesal , why do you care about saving the world?
It's obviously not for moral reasons, and we could really just planeshift and let it all die if we wanted to, so what drives you to want to save, well, anyone?

Is it making our companions happy? Is it because you feel you have to, because this is the setting? Is it because we haven't looted everything yet?
I'm honestly curious.
 
Raichu1972 said:
[X] Goldfish

Works for me, short enough to not sound like a monologue, but still flowery enough to sound like it came out of Visery's mouth :V

Now that you mention it @Duesal , why do you care about saving the world?
It's obviously not for moral reasons, and we could really just planeshift and let it all die if we wanted to, so what drives you to want to save, well, anyone?

Is it making our companions happy? Is it because you feel you have to, because this is the setting? Is it because we haven't looted everything yet?
I'm honestly curious.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Lesser men save the world because it's where they keep all their stuff.

We save the world because it IS our stuff.
Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Jan 16, 2018 at 11:35 PM, finished with 140035 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] "If it is the nature of man to be quick to speak, quick to decide and quick to bequeath, then the short answer is Viserys and Daenerys Targaryen, King of the Stepstones and Princess of the Blood, respectively. Heirs to an ancient bloodline powerful in magic. The longer answer is more complicated. Lords of Flame and Sky, two of the last scions of the fallen of Old Valyria, the Dragonlords. In the dawning new age of sorcery we are the strongest champions against the raging and howling wind blown from the north, the grasping tentacles of the deeps, or the profane duplicity from the Pit, the strongest that could be named not just by pride but grim outlook. Of those with the will to bear a blade against the coming darkness, we gather strength and fellowship the fastest and with the surest of purposes in mind. To protect this world from the depredations of others and men both."
    -[X] "My sister's domain is that of the Dreaming, but it is in the mortal realm where I am strongest. Though the purity of purpose does sometimes cloud the mind, I am not the flame, though I do make use of it, just as she has a seeming of a forgotten age, but is present."
    -[X] Viserys trails off... "Oh. And Ser Richard Lonmouth, known as the Knight of Skulls and Kisses. A sure and able protector, for that is his duty and he does it well."
    [X] "I am Viserys Targaryen, exiled prince and self-styled King in the Stepstones. I am of the blood of Old Valyria, a True Dragon in the making, and bulwark against that which preys on the helpless and the innocent. I am a warrior, a mage, and a scholar. I have journeyed north of the Wall seeking answers from the Three-Eyed Crow, eldest living of my blood. And I have come seeking fulfillment of a bargain upon which I place great importance."
    -[X] Let Dany and Richard answer for themselves.
    [X] We are dreamers. We have seen everything taken from us. Only for the song and dreams of old to us give us wings. We've made enemies, but as long as we live we shall not see misery, death and madness reign supreme. And here we are, preparing for another tide that might consume us all.
Click to expand...
 
Could we get some Fey mercenaries for the Deep? We are in a very good relationship with the Orphene Court and I do want to add more protection to the Deep while also negotiating to see if they could swear loyalty to us like our other Fey vassals. It's a great way to get some top tier warriors for our army and assassin's should definitely be something we look for in a Court of Night.
 
[X] Goldfish
Raichu1972 said:
Works for me, short enough to not sound like a monologue, but still flowery enough to sound like it came out of Visery's mouth :V

Now that you mention it @Duesal , why do you care about saving the world?
It's obviously not for moral reasons, and we could really just planeshift and let it all die if we wanted to, so what drives you to want to save, well, anyone?

Is it making our companions happy? Is it because you feel you have to, because this is the setting? Is it because we haven't looted everything yet?
I'm honestly curious.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
@Raichu1972, it's a series of reasons, but most of them are connected.

1. I see the entire plane as our future kingdom, and I've always felt obligated to protect what's ours. That's why I get so hostile against anything that even remotely threatens the party or our kingdom. In this instance the world at large is the direct beneficiary of unadulterated greed. ;)
2. I just like a lot of the people in the world and I don't want them to die because we failed to stop an apocalypse. This one could be seen as altruism, but it's really more possessiveness than anything else. For example, I'd be furious if anything happened to Rock Shaker or the other Xorn because I happen to like them, but I'd have a far less angry reaction if for example someone were to attack the Orphne Court or something.
3. I absolutely despise the idea of being forced to retreat from our home plane. Don't get me wrong, I'd do it if necessary, but I'd be seething for weeks and plotting vengeance every step of the way.
4. And this one's more pragmatic than anything else, and it doesn't have to do with obligations or anything, but apocalypses on our home plane are a direct threat to us and everyone we care about. The upcoming Long Night is an existential threat. It's in our best interest to fight that as long and hard as we can just to make sure we survive.

EDIT: And as for keeping party members happy, that's more of a side benefit in this case.
 
Last edited:
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top