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I'm sure that there are level 5 nonmagical PCs right in SD waiting for us to recruit them, but we haven't even tried.
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I'm sure that there are level 5 nonmagical PCs right in SD waiting for us to recruit them, but we haven't even tried.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Basically, this.
I don't believe that we are that pressed as to go for every single pc DP flashes before our eyes. Heck, only Glyra, Maelor, Moonsong and Theon are actually doing something, out of all the PC there are.
We certainly don't need all the drama and asocial and non-conformistic attitude of Wildlings. I believe it to be the same as trying to get a PC dorthraki. Too much effort on making them a part of society for too little profit
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dpara
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[X] TotallyNotEvil
Well someone thought them serious enough to expend the power to build a fuckhuge 10000 year long magically sustained wall, rather than use that time and effort to hunt and kill them.
I don't know how many divine ranks / dozens epic casters / army of 10th level wizards that would have cost, but I am concerned.
The only other idea I have (that might lower that threatlevel) is someone very clever redirected a "Summon glaciers over continent" spell into "Nope, Wall" which sent them to hibernation/exhaustion.
Well someone thought them serious enough to expend the power to build a fuckhuge 10000 year long magically sustained wall, rather than use that time and effort to hunt and kill them.
I don't know how many divine ranks / dozens epic casters / army of 10th level wizards that would have cost, but I am concerned.
The only other idea I have (that might lower that threatlevel) is someone very clever redirected a "Summon glaciers over continent" spell into "Nope, Wall" which sent them to hibernation/exhaustion.
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It comes down to grand plans of getting all the wildlings to do what we tell them to. Yes, they're a pain in the ass, but we need them to not be Beyond the Wall when the Long Night comes. A big part of that is going to be diplomancing each and every clan we come across and show them our strength and that we can fight the beasts of the Others, so when the time comes and we tell them to pack up and leave, they pack up and leave.
Diplomancing Elle is a part of that, it's not just a mad scramble for all PCs in sight. We diplomance Elle, that translates to diplomancing the crab people as a whole. And also, we fail to diplomance her and it basically turns our victory here into a failure because all she's going to talk about when she gets home is how we wouldn't even kill the bear-men that ate her tribesmen.
EDIT: And we've already seen that rumors can and will spread among the crab folk. We mess this up by setting Elle off and we have a permanent malus among the crab people.
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We propably would have noticed. In the arena, when recruiting the city guard or at any other point.
We do have a bunch of level 5 and even 6 NPCs among our sailors, especially the Ironborn who joined us, DP mentioned that when Garin and Leila fought that Siren-expy, but I don't think we have much in the way of PC-classes, and if mostly people like the Ranger here, who have some Warrior levels and then like two in Fighter or Mariner.
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A while back the thread started catiograzing the various posters into Memes. With Artemis1992 being labled a chaotic good/neutral outsider and Azel well a Lawyer Devil.
So what meme am I?
So what meme am I?
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Mostly known for hanging far behind the threat and liking a lot of posts.
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Yeah, from what I've seen, you're known for liking almost every single post, and I'm pretty sure the thread would track your progress by what posts you've been like bombing
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I'm sort of with the wildling here. The whole 'fire that drives back the darkness, dragon that fights the things that would prey upon mankind wherever they rear their head' starts to ring pretty hollow when we start siding with the things that were literally hunting and eating people just because they can give us shiny new loot.
It would be different if you agreed with the thing, or thought its methods were useful, but it's clear most of the thread's motivation for swearing a binding magical oath to this asshole can be summed up as 'muh bear minions'.
There, salt purged.
Having said that:
[X] Diomedon
Whats done is done, and at the end of the day we were always going to need to move the Free Folk to somewhere less apocalypse-y
It would be different if you agreed with the thing, or thought its methods were useful, but it's clear most of the thread's motivation for swearing a binding magical oath to this asshole can be summed up as 'muh bear minions'.
There, salt purged.
Having said that:
[X] Diomedon
Whats done is done, and at the end of the day we were always going to need to move the Free Folk to somewhere less apocalypse-y
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How am I doing that?
Uh, guys? Couldn't help but notice you are voting tell her we won't let the werebears cross the wall when the apocalypse comes, within earshot of the vindictive Overbear?
And said proposal is also very silly.
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Keep in mind, we've also neatly solved a problem and bought the entire north an ally with this. We could have killed the werebears, but not the spirit. And doing so would be folly, as it's an enemy of the Others.
We've de-escalated the situation and secured a stronger northern front.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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well, Sure, diplomancing is our whole shtick by now, isn't it? It's just that threads' collective "Looter's sense" is tingling in a wrong direction. My problem is with the most likely continuation of this thread of thinking that leads to trying to get her go with us. And that will cause problems, she's a freaking wildling.
She can be taught what's wrong and what's right, sure, Viserys is more than proficient with this sort of stuff (with such diplo and bluff scores you can't be unproficient in that). It's just that I don't think it is worth time and resources investment.
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Why? He should be happy he gets to stay and prove his strength against his enemies. If he makes a fuss about it I say we call him out on the rank hypocrisy in wanting to eat the 'weak' when he plans on running and hiding from the fight he's supposedly doing so to prepare for.
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I do always find it fun to hear Viserys talk about being the Bulwark against the Darkness and the protector of Man from the evils of the world when he runs a CE Pirate Kingdom that still goes out and raids the ships of men.
It all seems rather ironic to me
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Because this is assuming him to be extraordinarily stupid.
He wants strong people to fight the Others, and in doing so, he also negates bodies to them.
He doesn't want to be captured and tortured for another 8000 years. Or to die pointlessly.
Again, this guy isn't dumb, he just thinks differently. He is perfectly rational.
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I will like bomb this entire thread into submission mark my wordsYeah, from what I've seen, you're known for liking almost every single post, and I'm pretty sure the thread would track your progress by what posts you've been like bombing
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We are running a mostly CN Pirate Kingdom and are generally justifying our piracy by freeing slaves.I do always find it fun to hear Viserys talk about being the Bulwark against the Darkness and the protector of Man from the evils of the world when he runs a CE Pirate Kingdom that still goes out and raids the ships of men.
It all seems rather ironic to me
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Huh, I thought I remembered DP saying that the population was mostly CE pirates.
And if I remember right, the justification for the slavery thing was that most of the Free Cities ships had at least a few slaves on them, and thus the majority of them were up for grabs by anyone who thought they could take them on?
And we are still raiding Westerosi ships iirc, which definitely don't have slaves on them.
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1. They were, but a lot of the worst ones died or left when we took over.
2. In case of non-slavers it's weakening an enemy who is already attacking us regardless of further attempts to escalate or de-escalate from our side. We are targeting the Lannisters and Baratheons only and we can't end our little feud with them right now, unfortunatly.
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Correct.
Disagree. I understand his perspective, and within his paradigm and abilities he may seem perfectly rational, but that doesn't mean I accept his paradigm. His outlook and methods are at best a stop-gap solution which has enough drawbacks that once you stop viewing the world through his ridiculous faux natural selection lens, it becomes self-evidently idiotic.
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[X] TotallyNotEvil
@TotallyNotEvil maybe just get rid of the last part? i think thats what people are afraid of, theres no real need to prickle her pride, just mention something about living vs dead.
@TotallyNotEvil maybe just get rid of the last part? i think thats what people are afraid of, theres no real need to prickle her pride, just mention something about living vs dead.
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[X] "And did I not? No more will they prey on men, a threat they are no more. Perhaps even an ally. The True North isn't a nice or easy place, is it?"
-[X] "Tell me, you two, what do you know about the Long Night? If anything, the tales you heard fell short. And soon, very soon, it will be upon us again. I count myself lucky if we have a decade to prepare. The Wall is mighty, but the enemies' host is nigh endless. How many Free Folk have died in the course of eight thousand years? Not to mention ancient creatures and weapons from the last age of magic, held in store for this fight. A host such that the creatures we've slain are but chaff."
-[X] "It's easy for you to see, Harwood. Climb the wall, and the enemy's host will be all you can see. Elle, take your steed, climb into the air until the air becomes thin and your vision starts to darken. And the enemy's host will be all you can see."
-[X] "There will be but two sides on that war. The living, and the dead."
-[X] "Tell me, you two, what do you know about the Long Night? If anything, the tales you heard fell short. And soon, very soon, it will be upon us again. I count myself lucky if we have a decade to prepare. The Wall is mighty, but the enemies' host is nigh endless. How many Free Folk have died in the course of eight thousand years? Not to mention ancient creatures and weapons from the last age of magic, held in store for this fight. A host such that the creatures we've slain are but chaff."
-[X] "It's easy for you to see, Harwood. Climb the wall, and the enemy's host will be all you can see. Elle, take your steed, climb into the air until the air becomes thin and your vision starts to darken. And the enemy's host will be all you can see."
-[X] "There will be but two sides on that war. The living, and the dead."
Goldfish
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I don't really think the Others reside in the far North, any more than the Fey of the Reach originated there.
More likely, the entrance to their true realm is located there, or the cold of the North resonates metaphysically with their realm and let's them pass through to Planetos.
The Wall might not just confine them to the North, but prevent them from using extraplanar travel to enter from any other location. If Bran the Builder was really a dick, it could prevent them from leaving their plane entirely, except through a single sporadic portal somewhere in the Planetosi Arctic.