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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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@DragonParadox I just want to say that I find the latest update schedule to be much better than usual. Fewer but longer updates is quite a bit better than 4 500 word snippets a day.
I understand that this is sometimes necessary, but you really put a great many more nice details and touches in a 1.1k update than in 520 words.
 
Calm your tits folks. Also, paladins will not be swayed by loot. Especially if they can get the advice of their God on the matter. For this we'll need to break out the... Silk gloves.

I don't think we can get her to come to Sorcerers deep. I don't think we can make her swear obtrusive oaths to us either. We can, give her some gear and point her at some problems we find however.

Like this. Mostly.

Give her advice, information, maybe some magic items. As well as pointing her in... Convenient. Directions. We are hardly fond of evil.

Build up the trust over time. You know how it is.

On the other hand she's 8, and impressionable. So...

I would still rather not take advantage of her naivety.
 
Artemis1992 said:
I don't trust that thinking anymore.

I also thought Dany wouldn't be combat-relevant for a few more years...
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Dany got XP by the ton due to our circumstances. Brienne's father isn't going to allow her to go somewhere outside of his lands to hunt monsters and involve herself in plots the way we had to allow Dany to end up involved in the stuff we did because Braavos was stuffed with monsters and we were already fighting them. If monsters show up he'll fight them himself and mob them with armsmen if that's what it takes.

Tarth is also much more likely to be quiet, it has no major lures to attract gribblies. After this small Devil infestation goes away it's safe to say Tarth will be a quiet place aside from the occasional Deep One raid, and those won't be too serious, or they'd be happening already and Lord Tarth would have mentioned them. For whatever reason the Deep Ones are focusing on certain locations like the Point.
 
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Tomcost said:
Meh, we will make peace with the Seven eventually I think. The OG wants them humbled, not anihilated. That means nailing Lucan by his throat to a Hearth Tree, and planting some more weirwoods in the places of Septs, but they will calm down eventually.
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The OGs will calm down, but why should we stop and make peace before crushing our foes?

I guess if they change their previous doctrines and admit to all worshippers that magic is awesome when Viserys Targaeryen (or those with his permission) does it we could talk about peace, but I'm not really seeing that happening.
Gods rarely come down to ask for forgiveness from mortals...

Edit: Seeing them humbled before us and before all those who believed in them might be acceptable.
 
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Tomcost said:
Meh, we will make peace with the Seven eventually I think. The OG wants them humbled, not anihilated. That means nailing Lucan by his throat to a Hearth Tree, and planting some more weirwoods in the places of Septs, but they will calm down eventually.
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You mean the Old Gods who were so full of rage that they were basically incoherent? The Old Gods whose individual servants were so full of rage as to try to kill their own worshippers in the Vale because of crimes committed against them millennia ago?
Yeah, they're likely to calm down soon...
 
Brienne is gonna be sooo busy, if it is as bad in Westeros as we fear.

Just consider Cersei.. only her meeting with Aberi makes me think that she hasn't already made a deal with the devil.

[X] Phantom Steeds

The high and mighty can ignore rumors of random people saying we can teleport, this'd be direct confirmation. They'd be able to blame any soured milk and spoiled crop on us.
Unless that is phenomenally bad for the schedule?

065tdsa said:
After this Devil infestation goes away it's safe to say Tarth will be a fairly quiet place aside from the occasional Deep One raid, and those won't be too serious, or they'd be happening already. For whatever reason the Deep Ones are focusing on certain locations like the Point.
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DP did hint that the Deep Ones were busy with the devils.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
You mean the Old Gods who were so full of rage that they were basically incoherent? The Old Gods whose individual servants were so full of rage as to try to kill their own worshippers in the Vale because of crimes committed against them millennia ago?
Yeah, they're likely to calm down soon...
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The Old Gods aren't all equally angry, we were told this. There's a faction that wants annihilation and another that wants less than that, and last time we spoke the moderates clearly had enough weight to make the demand that was made to us be that we humble the Seven rather than destroy them.
 
065tdsa said:
The Old Gods aren't all equally angry, we were told this. There's a faction that wants annihilation and another that wants less than that, and last time we spoke the moderates clearly had enough weight to make the demand that was made to us be that we humble the Seven rather than destroy them.
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I hold out hope that burning down the great sept. Andor marrying Lya via pagan ritual in it would make em happy.
 
zxzx24 said:
Calm your tits folks. Also, paladins will not be swayed by loot. Especially if they can get the advice of their God on the matter. For this we'll need to break out the... Silk gloves.
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I don't think anyone was thinking bribing her would work.

Rather, slowly making her realize how hypocritical her Seven are and how they're somehow against magics that aren't their magics even when used in the defense of the innocent. How we're the apparently the evilest thing to walk the planet when we're actively holding back multiple apocalypses. There are so many things we could use to pick apart that religion.

But yeah, we agree on going gently here.
 
Look, I'm not invested in turning Brienne away from the Seven, but if you want to accomplish it the easiest and cleanest way to do so isn't to try to recruit her, its to befriend her. She's a lonely child who has come into power she will struggle to understand, and will likely be fighting terrible foes (I don't believe the Warrior will let her sit on her hands, no matter how much Lord Tarth might wish it). Be her friend, adviser, giver of magical items, and confidant if possible. Most of all leave her religion out of things. What you want is when the church or the Warrior sends down the smite order, her first thought is 'but Viserys/Daenerys is my friend, they fight evil and haven't done me any wrong.'
 
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Ya know that illusion of safety you had when you killed our insane father, forced us to flee to foreign lands and then spent the rest of the time talking shit when we got back on our feet and made a prosperous realm with our own bare fucking hands?

Yeah, sorry about that.

(Not sorry at all live in fear you pitiful fucks.)
 
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Look, I'm not invested in turning Brienne away from the Seven, but if you want to accomplish it the easiest and cleanest way to do so isn't to try to recruit her, its to befriend her. She's a lonely child who has come into power she will struggle to understand, and will likely be fighting terrible foes (I don't believe the Warrior will let her sit on her hands, no matter how much Lord Tarth might wish it). Be her friend, adviser, giver of magical items, and confidant if possible. Most of all leave her religion out of things. What you want is when the church or the Warrior sends down the smite order, her first thought is 'but Viserys/Daenerys is my friend, they fight evil and haven't done me any wrong.'
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This is true, I'm just not confident it can be managed. Because, you know, that otherwise insignificant political kerfluffle between us and Robert makes regular visits to Tarth less than strictly feasible, specially since there's at least one fuckwit who'll shout of us being here to all and sundry (looking at Ser what-his-name, the one who talked shit and was saved by the Devil attack from getting turned into ground meat). Maybe she and Dany could be pen pals?
 
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Or we could just kill Brienne? I know some of ya'll will balk at this suggestion, being a well-liked character and a child to boot, but let's look at this objectively. If she holds true to her ideals, continues to worship the Seven, and does not Fall, she will be one of our most relentless, implacable enemies. We have a prime opportunity to nip that in the bud right now, before she becomes an actual danger.

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065tdsa said:
This is true, I'm just not confident it can be managed. Because, you know, that otherwise insignificant political kerfluffle between us and Robert makes regular visits to Tarth less than strictly feasible.
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I mean, if we really wanted to, we could just teleport in under a glamour and then leave before anyone really notices.

It would be a lot easier with the assistance of Tarth, but the Stormlands in general seem woefully unprepared against magic, considering that they thought imps were simple fairy tales and didn't notice the magical nature of Fenly's steed.

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Or we could just kill Brienne? I know some of ya'll will balk at this suggestion, being a well-liked character and a child to boot, but let's look at this objectively. If she holds true to her ideals, continues to worship the Seven, and does not Fall, she will be one of our most relentless, implacable enemies. We have a prime opportunity to nip that in the bud right now, before she becomes an actual danger.

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I would rather we not kill children, no matter how much of a threat they may become.
It would make us no better than Tywin or Robert in my opinion, to kill a child just because of what they might become.
 
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