Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

Taylor doesn't have the required know-how to figure out what she was poking at. It's pretty reasonable imo.

No, but we do have Perfect Storm who has hack the Triumvirate, which is also not something that Taylor can possibly do.

We could have left a backdoor so we can just give the data to Tim. Now we have to do another raid on a possibly fully armed base along with Tim.

We could also have grabbed the mechs to take apart, but again nothing.

Sorry, there was just so many things we could have done but we bugged out as soon as we saw some Hollywood style code.
 
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We could have left a backdoor so we can just give the data to Tim. Now we have to do another raid on a possibly fully armed base along with Tim.
:???:
Exactly 5 people know where this base is: Taylor, Perfect Storm, and the Dragonslayers. The latter 3 are in custody. Who do you expect to be arming the base?
We could also have grabbed the mechs to take apart, but again nothing.
…Or you could wait until you have Samantha and Tim to help move them. Maybe Dragon, too, so you won't have to make multiple trips.
Sorry, there was just so many things we could have done but we bugged out as soon as we saw some Hollywood style code.
Taylor said "Hey, rather than mess around with something that I know is hooked into the very essence of one of my closest allies, I'll let the experts have a look at it first". I fail to see what your issue is.
 
«We don't have time to talk. You need to come to Penn Presbyterian immediately. We'll be waiting for you in the ICU.

«Captain is in critical condition
Good news and bad news:
Good news, Danny can almost certainly be healed by Storm.
Bad news, that would require both making changes from scratch due to the backup being gone, and likley the loss of Danny's power via making him a mage.
"Panacea couldn't do anything for the swelling that developed after the explosion, nor could anyone else there. He and the other Thinkers they could save are in hospitals throughout the country. Very few healers can affect the brain, and the few who possibly could by and large refuse to do so for ethical reasons." She waves at the room. "We need to trust good, old-fashioned medicine for this."

"What are his chances?" Samantha whispers.

With visible hesitation, Miss Militia shrugs. "The doctors said it was too early to tell. Some people wake up and recover, even with this degree of brain trauma. Some… don't."
Time to get in contact with Cranial then.
When the hell did we get this?!
Somebody, I forget who, bought Divide Energy with points. That's the next skill in the branch.
1. That's me.
2. Anti-magic field, eh? @Silently Watches, what parahuman powers would it affect?

Assuming it's force applied, which is most likely even in magical scenarios, that'd mean ~1000N of Force. A 240-grain (16g) bullet moving at just north of the speed of sound (360m/s) impacts with 5.76 N/s. That is a minescule amount of force. Basically, Telekinesis is hillariously overpowered if you use it right - bullet force on the nervous system, anyone? Maybe key forces applied to the limbs to make it mind-numbingly painful/inherently debilitating to actually move your limbs? How about telekinetic tripwires? This is all niche stuff, mind, and would require a tactial and technical genius to figure out form the word go, plus a lot of practice to be able to effectively use it in combat. Still, it's the option with the most raw versatility in applications, and can replicate most physical effects with ease. Plus, y'know, we likely won't have a Manton Limitation on our telekinesis.
Hate Fish, I strongly suggest you read the spell description. You're missing stuff.

[X] Frost Beam
 
@Silently Watches only 3 people form the Dragonslayers, I guess fanon got to me. I always assumed there were at least a dozen members.

So that was it, an empty base with no one manning the station. I guess its alright.
 
Good news and bad news:
Good news, Danny can almost certainly be healed by Storm.
Bad news, that would require both making changes from scratch due to the backup being gone, and likley the loss of Danny's power via making him a mage.
1) How do you expect Storm to heal him?
2) Why do you think Storm will want to heal him?
3) Danny doesn't have a Linker Core. That was determined in 6.3.
 
1) How do you expect Storm to heal him?
2) Why do you think Storm will want to heal him?
3) Danny doesn't have a Linker Core. That was determined in 6.3.
1. He's shown to be freely capable of manipulating minds rather strongly before. Between that and the human brain's innate ability to adapt surviving neurological connections to function after damage's been taken, I think there's some leeway for Storm to aid and enhance Danny's neuroplasticity.
2. Because Taylor will/would order him to. I don't think he's at the point he'll flat-out refuse. I think he's smart enough to figure out how to satisfy both Her Dread Highnesses commands and remove a potential threat to the throne.
3. Well, my bad then.
 
Hate Fish, I strongly suggest you read the spell description. You're missing stuff.
It can lift/affect any object twice the weight of the caster. Assuming Taylor is a little over 50kg (110lbs, 7st 12lbs), which would make her on the low end of a healthy weight for being 5'6'', this means that the force needed to lift an object of ~100kg is ~100G, which is technically 981N. However, we assumed she was slightly over 50kg, so we can round it out to 1000N. This is assuming, of course, that we're just zeroing out gravity and not applying any additional forces to the object in question, and also that the spell in question works on actualy physical principles as opposed to conceptual ones, though most spells in Nanoha seem to have some degree of physics behind them - even the stuff like teleportation is related to dimensional shifting/folding, which is just physics we don't understand yet.

As for if it works conceptually, then yeah, that kind of stuff might be harder to do, if it didn't specify "living or non-living" - moving air is the same as straight applying force when within an atmosphere, so take, I'unno, 2kg of air (just north of 1.6 cubic metres) and use it to tie someone up. As long as you're focusing on the TK, the air isn't going to move, which means you have a concentration duration bind that can also become cutting blades or trip wires or whatever. Yeah, it's dumb, and if @Silently Watches corrects my interpretation I won't be surprised, but it's still a valid point.
 
Looks like it would've definitely been nice if we'd managed enough subvotes to bring Tim along. Would've been with us potentially to come to Hospital (or at least start preparing to pass on the news, if they only wanted family to visit or something...but Samantha.) And the update pretty much spelled out Taylor's desire to bring an expert.

On the other hand, she'd still probably want Dragon available before poking anything too hard (except, you know, the half dozen things she poked before deciding that xD) even with Tim AND Perfect Storm. Who I agree, even if Perfect Storm would be told by Taylor not to risk doing anything much without Tim and his Digital Blueprints or both him and Dragon, it's still a bit odd that he at least didn't chirp up with any commentary. After all, he not only was very confident about shredding the PRT security and a low risk of being detected (we opted for zero-risk option), he expressed disagreement with Taylor over the tactics merits of not hacking them. Suppose his "protect Sovereign's Court" priorities are keeping him from opportunistically wanting to tweak such a strong ally as Dragon on his own, but still.

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Anyways, power vote time... first thing, people should look at the pattern of the skill tree and notice that Telekinesis probably hides a skill or TWO itself. The only reason we can see the locked option under Frost Beam, I think, is because of Temporal Sludge getting grandfathered in from before the redesign of our skills.

From there... all we know about telekinesis is a certain conceptual-capability of it. If it can do anything the base physics of "move ~100 KG of mass" allows, that can quickly get ludicrous :V . It does seem to mention multiple-objects rather than just one of that mass. But if its more concept-based, the speed we move masses may be fixed and irrespective of the target object, and it may require a more easily conceived object (that is, it could move rocks or maybe sand, but not just hold still the air molecules. That encroaches too many other skills). Really hard to judge without a minimum of "go nuts with physics" versus "concept limited, storybook TK" from @Silently Watches .

At the minimum, we know that Telekinesis is a potential means of dealing with that pesky Cadejo we need double-vengeance on, as it should be no different than what Jotunn did in grabbing the claws. I'm not sure Ring Bind would do it, but since I think the rings float seperate of the wrists it could still work because magic. Frost Beam would be less broad in dealing with him, but also possible... and more useful on the Beast Hordes if we have limited-TK.

I know someone had an early theory about Telekinesis being relevant to Ragnarok conditions, but I don't see how.

Wonder if theres any chance that Silently Watches would tell us if TK has one, two, or zero skills hiding beneath it? (Probably not, but never know). Telekinesis is part of flare tree, so it may have more shinies for our bombardment, but Void tree has more of the strange-conceptual skills like messing with dimensions.

Burst... could work for a swarm of Beasts if we think our reputation as "scary Blaster A-Lot rating" is a ship thats already sailed, But its more niche to think of cases where we can fire a bunch of exploding shooters and not fire Solar Wrath, especially if the burst is more about making chunky-salsa of one target and not being a true AoE. Depends on explosion radius.

Think that I will vote

[X] Learn Frost Beam

for now, contingent on being convinced otherwise or having Silently Watches reveal more details (its limits, whether it hides any skills) .
 
@Silently Watches, Would it be feasible to turn the Dragonslayers base into our base? That's taking into account delivering or securing Ascalon and clearing it's location with the PRT.

'Cause secret bases are cool.
Adhoc vote count started by LancerisDead on Aug 4, 2017 at 9:41 PM, finished with 51 posts and 28 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by LancerisDead on Aug 5, 2017 at 2:03 AM, finished with 70 posts and 35 votes.
 
Finally caught up.
[X] Learn Frost Beam
Cause that unknown spell under it has been tempting me the entire time.
 
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1. He's shown to be freely capable of manipulating minds rather strongly before. Between that and the human brain's innate ability to adapt surviving neurological connections to function after damage's been taken, I think there's some leeway for Storm to aid and enhance Danny's neuroplasticity.
He has to survive first. Severe traumatic brain injuries have somewhere around a 30% mortality rate, and even then full recovery, which is only 25% or so of patients, is not in the cards. His pitiful recovery rolls (6 and 33, I believe, but definitely on a d100), forbid that.

Sufficient Velocity has obviously 1) become self-aware, 2) gotten hooked on Worm fics, and 3) developed a terrible hatred for Danny.
2. Because Taylor will/would order him to. I don't think he's at the point he'll flat-out refuse. I think he's smart enough to figure out how to satisfy both Her Dread Highnesses commands and remove a potential threat to the throne.
Interestingly enough…
«Delete paternal Guardian Beast personality matrix. Unsuitable. Initiate regicide defense protocols. Mistress's father reclassified as potential threat to sovereign.»
«Unknown, but commands by Mistress to power communications with Mistress's mana will be rejected. Override protocols activated to prevent intentional user self-harm.»
«Sole exception to sovereign-level authorization.»
Storm actually could refuse that command, or more likely lie and say that was not within its abilities, because doing so it would classify as enabling "intentional user self-harm". NOT what I planned when I wrote those lines, but they're there.
Anyways, power vote time... first thing, people should look at the pattern of the skill tree and notice that Telekinesis probably hides a skill or TWO itself. The only reason we can see the locked option under Frost Beam, I think, is because of Temporal Sludge getting grandfathered in from before the redesign of our skills.
Telekinesis is the start of a branch. It's a weird branch, or more honestly, it contains a skill I couldn't find anywhere else to put. Yes, Temporal Sludge was grandfathered in. It is the only skill you had already learned that didn't fit well as the start of its branch and that didn't have a related skill that was also known.
From there... all we know about telekinesis is a certain conceptual-capability of it. If it can do anything the base physics of "move ~100 KG of mass" allows, that can quickly get ludicrous :V . It does seem to mention multiple-objects rather than just one of that mass. But if its more concept-based, the speed we move masses may be fixed and irrespective of the target object, and it may require a more easily conceived object (that is, it could move rocks or maybe sand, but not just hold still the air molecules. That encroaches too many other skills). Really hard to judge without a minimum of "go nuts with physics" versus "concept limited, storybook TK" from @Silently Watches .
Somewhere in the middle, but closer to concept-limited. You can only move solid, discrete objects; sand or snow I'll let you work with because you have a weight limit rather than a number limit, but not liquid water or air. If you're moving something at the limit of your strength, it will only move at a walking speed. Something lighter can go faster, but it hits a hard limit of about 50 mph. You can't accelerate a bolt to the speed of a bullet, but you can still bash someone with a steel block and split their head open.
I know someone had an early theory about Telekinesis being relevant to Ragnarok conditions, but I don't see how.
I have repeatedly debunked that theory. Anyone who still thinks that is beyond all my aid. (I know you don't think it, but it's worth pointing out to anyone who does and is reading this. Then again, anybody who still thinks this probably hasn't read any of my other comments, so…)
Burst... could work for a swarm of Beasts if we think our reputation as "scary Blaster A-Lot rating" is a ship thats already sailed, But its more niche to think of cases where we can fire a bunch of exploding shooters and not fire Solar Wrath, especially if the burst is more about making chunky-salsa of one target and not being a true AoE. Depends on explosion radius.
The "Blaster Yes" ship will only have completely sailed once you show off Ragnarök. Burst turns tennis-ball-sized bullets into beach-ball-sized explosions, so two foot diameter or so.
@Silently Watches, Would it be feasible to turn the Dragonslayers base into our base? That's taking into account delivering or securing Ascalon and clearing it's location with the PRT.

'Cause secret bases are cool.
You… could, I suppose, but why? It isn't like you really need a secret base of your own. If you make the right choices, you really really really won't need to find one because you'll have plenty of options.
Here. Fair warning, it's within a spoiler.

And yes, maybe a little mean, but seriously, man. Use your brain.
 
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He has to survive first. Severe traumatic brain injuries have somewhere around a 30% mortality rate, and even then full recovery, which is only 25% or so of patients, is not in the cards. His pitiful recovery rolls (6 and 33, I believe, but definitely on a d100), forbid that.
Better get Toybox on the horn right-quick then.
Interestingly enough…
Storm actually could refuse that command, or more likely lie and say that was not within its abilities, because doing so it would classify as enabling "intentional user self-harm". NOT what I planned when I wrote those lines, but they're there.
Well, guess that's that then.
Somewhere in the middle, but closer to concept-limited. You can only move solid, discrete objects; sand or snow I'll let you work with because you have a weight limit rather than a number limit, but not liquid water or air. If you're moving something at the limit of your strength, it will only move at a walking speed. Something lighter can go faster, but it hits a hard limit of about 50 mph. You can't accelerate a bolt to the speed of a bullet, but you can still bash someone with a steel block and split their head open.
Take notes @Hate Fish.
 
Can I ask if Frost Beam or Ring Bind would help in a rematch with Cadejo?
If either of them would be effective against Cadejo in his ghost state to allow Calamity to capture him alive, then that would be my pick on the next one to learn.
If both are effective, I'd go with Frost Beam.
If neither are effective, I want to finish off the shooter spell trees with Burst, although the arguments for Frost Beam are compelling for our upcoming sewer mission.

(subject to change depending on reply)
[X] Learn Burst
Adhoc vote count started by SlickRCBD on Aug 4, 2017 at 10:27 PM, finished with 59 posts and 30 votes.

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Sufficient Velocity has obviously 1) become self-aware, 2) gotten hooked on Worm fics, and 3) developed a terrible hatred for Danny.
I am okay with this.
Ehhh, not quite. It didn't launch the US's stockpile of ICBMs to make sure Danny was Dead after all.
On a side note, I just imagined the quote above being said in Schwarzenegger's tone, heh.
Well US writes stories, not Quests. No dice for SV to fuck with.
 
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