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Seeing Red [Naruto]

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Vindictus said:
While I agree that 'Magic Swords' probably aren't something we can just make, this is not entirely true. Minato's flying thunder god technique, for example, uses kunai with custom summoning seals inscribed on them, so we know for a fact that weapons can be altered to have unusual properties via sealing.
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Dude was plastering the Hiraishin everywhere, including the back of people he touched.
The weapon itself wasn't magic, or possessing magic properties; the seal was.

Magic weapons in the Narutoverse are things like the Seven Swords, Madara's gunba, the Sage's tools.
spudman said:
Meh...if kyujutsu is out (and it looks like it isn't getting support) I'm leaning towards plan magic swords.
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That's what kunai are for.
 
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Fuuinjutsu would be good to have some of no matter what. As someone pointed quite a few of the higher rank nin at least have some knowledge of it, meaning we should have some if for no other reason than protecting ourselves from it.

It's also the only place one can really get Space-Time techniques and counters for the most part.

Its not something we need to focus on as our primary skill, but it's definitely something that we should have on hand as soon as we can get it.
 
uju32 said:
Dude was plastering the Hiraishin everywhere, including the back of people he touched.
The weapon itself wasn't magic, or possessing magic properties; the seal was.
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Well, yes, and it's also proof that we can add seals onto weapons in order to do stuff with them.

I don't think we're going to be building a ghetto kusanagi or anything, of course, but we don't need 'A magic sword' in order to use magic with our sword... Sasuke was able to modify Chidori to work with a sword, IIRC, after all.
 
Mm, sidetracking on the current discussion a bit, I just want to point out that focusing on both Fuinjutsu and Medical jutsu at such a young age (even mentally Hisana's only 14) might not be a good idea given how complex and time consuming both are.

Plus our physical aspects still definitely need work given how we were stomped by Kiba.
 
FatedBread said:
Mm, sidetracking on the current discussion a bit, I just want to point out that focusing on both Fuinjutsu and Medical jutsu at such a young age (even mentally Hisana's only 14) might not be a good idea given how complex and time consuming both are.

Plus our physical aspects still definitely need work given how we were stomped by Kiba.
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Starting early means we'll be farther ahead when canon (or what's left of it) comes around. And it's not like we're not training the main three, Ebisu is a stickler for the basics above all and I have no doubt he'd make us drop one of the extras before he let us fall behind in the main three. There's also only so much work we can put our body through per day as well.
 
[X] Plan Be a Wizard

Seals are OP, that's why it's common to see them, but I've always thought that healing Naruto is insane. After Gaara curb stomped Lee, it was supposed to be impossible for Lee to ever fight agian and what did Tsuande do. She healed him to the point that he could go and fight Kinomaru a few months later. While knowing fuinjutsu is pretty much a staple of having a strong character, knowing Medical Ninjutsu can literally save lives.
 
Vindictus said:
Well, yes, and it's also proof that we can add seals onto weapons in order to do stuff with them.
I don't think we're going to be building a ghetto kusanagi or anything, of course, but we don't need 'A magic sword' in order to use magic with our sword... Sasuke was able to modify Chidori to work with a sword, IIRC, after all.
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Dude, that's called slapping seals on a tool.
You could do that with a kunai; in fact, Kakashi does do it with kunai.
Killer Bee does it with a pencil. There is no sword-exclusive technique you can't apply to a kunai.

Pretty much all the good shit are designed to be used hand to hand first; Rasengan, Chidori, Hell Stab, the Gates et al.
A sword focus is a dangerous dependency in Naruto, given that even legendary weapons like Zabuza's sword and Kakashi's light saber succumbed to battle damage mid-fight. And I still remember what happened to poor Hayate.

I mean, Itachi starts with one in ANBU when he's a youngster, and drops it.
Kakashi started with one when he was also a youngster, and dropped it.Tobi never used one.
Neither did Jiraiya or Tsunade. Sarutobi neither. Says a lot when the top ranks are dominated by unarmed shinobi.

Orochimaru's blade is not a sword; it's a telekinetically controlled drone that can cut through almost anything, trasforms into a snake, returns to it's owner from a distance and is possibly poisoned. Kisame's "sword" is a chakra draining intelligence that has a DRM lock and merges with him to give him a supermode. The Shichiseiken literally seals people's souls when they utter the wrong words too often.

That's the level that actual magic swords worth the name are on.
Which is why there are so few of them.

In the Darwinian world of shinobi, the fact that they aren't training every Academy rugrat in swordsmanship despite the reach advantage you'd get, but take the time to teach shurikenjutsu and kunai use? Pretty suggestive.
FatedBread said:
Plus our physical aspects still definitely need work given how we were stomped by Kiba.
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The Sharingan allows the PC to optimize physical training when necessary; remember how long it took Sasuke to grind Strong Fist style?
It's not like Itachi was the most physical of shinobi anyway.
 
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[X] Plan Stab the Squishy Parts
[x] - Kenjutsu. You think swords are really, really cool - and you know you never want to bring a knife to a swordfight.
[x] - Medical Ninjutsu. Your ambitions aren't compatible with being a full time medic, but some ability with them sounds like it could just save a life someday.

Sealing is arguably optimal depending on just how the QM interprets it, but swords + medic seems cool to me.
 
uju32 said:
Gai and Kakashi both say you're wrong.
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Both Gai and Kakashi have used weapons at one point or another, though.

It seems pretty odd to say 'No elite ninja uses weapons' when we see Kakashi with a sword during his stint in Anbu, and Gai with his nunchaku later on.

Plus, one of the benefits of learning to seal is that we can carry a basically unlimited number of swords or other weapons on us... If one tool breaks, we can draw another.
 
[X] Plan Stab the Squishy Parts

I'm sick of seeing seals everywhere and a quick skim shows this has a decent number of votes.
 
Vindictus said:
Both Gai and Kakashi have used weapons at one point or another, though.
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Kakashi stopped using anything other than kunai after Kannabi Bridge.
Gai barely uses nunchucks, and only when he's trying to avoid physical contact.
Vindictus said:
It seems pretty odd to say 'No elite ninja uses weapons' when we see Kakashi with a sword during his stint in Anbu, and Gai with his nunchaku later on.
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To quote myself:
uju32 said:
Says a lot when the top ranks are dominated by unarmed shinobi.
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ANBU seem to bear swords as part of their job, regardless of use; Sai carries one, despite never using it.
Not that there is anything about Kakashi being in ANBU in the manga.
 
[X] Plan Be a Wizard

I'm not sure it's worth our time to specialize in a weapon considering our access to the sharingan. We can quickly grab the basics of any weapon over an afternoon which should be enough so that we can use it for the few seconds it will last before it succumbs to shinobi battle damage. I suspect that with any weapon we can actually get access to that a few seconds of reach advantage is probably good enough. The ability to use a weapon in a disposable manner (through sharingan hacks) without getting attached to it would be more worthwhile than actually focusing large amounts of effort becoming a master.

In a similar manner I can definitely see Hisana going out of her way to sharingan learn how to play a few songs, how to fire a bow, how to write calligraphy, etc. Sure it won't bring perfect mastery of the item in question but it will certainly be enough to do a convincing job of it in an emergency.
 
Ninja metallurgy and weapon making techniques are sufficiently crazy that they can withstand sustained use by all but the most powerful of ninja without special reinforcement. Even at that level, it is possibile to stick with one especially tough sword (see EOS Sasuke).
 
[X] Plan Stab the Squishy Parts
[x] - Kenjutsu. You think swords are really, really cool - and you know you never want to bring a knife to a swordfight.
[x] - Medical Ninjutsu. Your ambitions aren't compatible with being a full time medic, but some ability with them sounds like it could just save a life someday.

I like this plan, it is a good plan.

Being able to keep injured teammates alive is a must, and having a stronger method of CQC sounds great to me. It also lets us avoid trying to make sense of seals, so that's a few dozen arguments I'll be happy to skip over.
 
uju32 said:
Furthermore, we don't actually ever see Sakumo fight; we don't know what he favored or why.
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He got the nickname the White Fang specifically for his use of the White Light Sabre. While it's true that we never actually see him fight, I feel like that's pretty sufficient evidence to point towards him utilizing Kenjutsu in his fighting style.
 
Is Mizuki working for Orochimaru in this because there was an awful lot of emphasis placed on him noticing our Sharingan.

I hope Oro kidnaps us for those sweet sweet eyeballs eventually.
 
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