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... Or it means that Mathilde recognizes that she's done a hell of a lot to improve the world through a variety of means, and wants some insurance so that she'll be able to keep doing so.

Or she'd just rather not die.

I'm not even voting for the armor and I find a lot of the arguments against it ridiculous.

True, simple fear for her life is also an argument, I don't find it that much more compelling on a narrative level

Edit: Also putting my vote for the airship back since that's what's ahead now

[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
 
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My current position is that Prismatic Wanderer is my definite favorite, Armor would be acceptable, and I am absolutely opposed to the grab-bag.
 
My current position is that Prismatic Wanderer is my definite favorite, Armor would be acceptable, and I am absolutely opposed to the grab-bag.
I think this may be part of what Execute and Reimagined's model is missing. There are skyship voters who may view Pickle's requests as a compromise to stave off the armour and armour voters who feel it necessary to adopt Pickle's requests as a compromise against the skyship - but there are also voters who dislike the idea of an option that doesn't go for a single, consolidated reward on principle and are thus willing to compromise on either the armour or the skyship to deny Pickle's requests. Then throw into the mix voters for Pickle's request who lean towards either armour or skyship as a second choice. My suspicion is that these overlapping contingencies cascading from one another have played a large role in making this new stage of the vote so... Ah... Dynamic.
 
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Wading into minions is just about the worst possible active usage of our battlefield time, and against just about every enemy we are likely to face makes us vulnerable to them deciding that however many Orcs/Skaven/Beastmen/Druchi/Wights is an acceptable sacrifice to hit us while we're occupied with something we can't actually safely test the Armor on.
I mean sure but while wading into sea of minions and being cannonball that never stops is one of the bonuses it offers, let us also not forget that we exchanged blows with greater servant of slaanesh. Sometimes you need to face enemy heroes that aren't really susceptible to assassination, and the armour would help there too.
 
I mean sure but while wading into sea of minions and being cannonball that never stops is one of the bonuses it offers, let us also not forget that we exchanged blows with greater servant of slaanesh. Sometimes you need to face enemy heroes that aren't really susceptible to assassination, and the armour would help there too.

Yes, we did indeed decide to fight a Higher Daemon of Slaanesh engaged in combat with an Emperor Dragon and the elf bearing one of the most overpowered magic items in the whole world. We did not however have to do it, we were fishing for Protector procs and those two could in fact handle it on their own.

'What if we are the last line of defense fighting a Higher Daemon?' strikes me as a rather niche thing to hang the AV boon on.
 
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Yes, we did indeed decide to fight a Higher Daemon of Slaanesh engaged in combat with an Emperor Dragon and the elf bearing one of the most overpowered magic items in the whole world.

And from what I remember, only reason why Mathilde, Asarnil & Deathfang won/survived the fight, is due to Engrimm (and his Choir) blowing a hole in said Daemon's torso with Light Magic.
 
Yes, we did indeed decide to fight a Higher Daemon of Slaanesh engaged in combat with an Emperor Dragon and the elf bearing one of the most overpowered magic items in the whole world. We did not however have to do it, we were fishing for Protector procs and those two could in fact handle it on their own.

'What if we are the last line of defense fighting a Higher Daemon?' strikes me as a rather niche thing to hang the AV boon on.

There's also the fact that Mathilde might have been capital-T Tempted by Visions of Glory(TM), which might explain why she teleported into melee combat with a greater demon. We shouldn't really consider it part of her default behaviour.

Anyway, the easiest way to break the current three way deadlock would be to vote for another option and create a four way deadlock.

Approval votes are free, after all.
 
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And from what I remember, only reason why Mathilde, Asarnil & Deathfang won/survived the fight, is due to Engrimm (and his Choir) blowing a hole in said Daemon's torso with Light Magic.

I'm pretty sure Deathfang would have killed it on his own nine times out if ten, Star Dragons are generally more powerful than greater daemons and he is a named star dragon. Note that for all that daemon was annoying in catching our sword it never got to wound anyone.
 
Do not lose sight of the promise of We-silk robes, friends! They have been too long in the coming and too strong an affirmation of some of Mathilde's core themes, of an open mind turning the unknown and strange into allies and turning those alliances into strength, for a sudden swerve to deprive us of a payoff now! We must not be tempted by the siren's song of the mechanical bonus from the true course of narrative satisfaction!

(Though, you know, we'll still be friends even if you are!)
Mathilde can still get enchanted We-silk robes. Unless pickle's plan wins, because then she'll have some already.

he is a named star dragon.
That's a bit like saying someone is a named person. It'd be far weirder if he didn't have a name.
 
I'm pretty sure Deathfang would have killed it on his own nine times out if ten, Star Dragons are generally more powerful than greater daemons and he is a named star dragon. Note that for all that daemon was annoying in catching our sword it never got to wound anyone.
And how often does someone like Asarnil fight alongside us. Because I am pretty sure we shared battlefield like three times but fought without him dozens of times, and while that was the only time we met greater daemon/daemon prince, as time goes on, chaos might strengthen enough to field more of such monstrosities.

Everchosen may never rise, or he might, and Asarnil won't always be there to hold our hand. So unless we want to run every time one of those monstrosities is around (iron orcs, anyone? That sounds like something that might involve higher daemon), it pays to be prepared.

I'm not saying if we don't pick it we auto die, but dismissing it's utility in such situations because "deathfang was there actually", isn't especially useful. Also, while Asarnil may have had it, I do believe that fight was stalemated until wizards got involved.
 
That's a bit like saying someone is a named person. It'd be far weirder if he didn't have a name.

In the sense that the Wargame considers him named.

And how often does someone like Asarnil fight alongside us.

Every bit as often as I would like to engage greater daemons in melee combat if not more often. If the Evercosen rises and somehow on the field of battle there is no one else better placed to engage in melee combat with greater daemons than Mathilde Weber then the forces of order have lar larger problems than what armor said Lady Magister may be wearing
 
Mathilde can still get enchanted We-silk robes. Unless pickle's plan wins, because then she'll have some already.
I am quite confident that, no matter how sentimental the value, the thread will not choose to invest AP into enchanting We-silk robes if Mathilde already has statistically superior armour (especially if they're already investing AP into training with that armour).
 
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In the sense that the Wargame considers him named.
The wargame also doesn't consider him a star dragon, because they didn't exist at the time and doesn't give him any abilties beyond other dragons (and in fact his stats are very slightly worse than the generic equivalent). Being named on the tabletop doesn't mean you're inherently better, though it does tend to mean the lore around your statblock says you're better, because GW want to sell people the model the statblock is attached to.

I am quite confident that, no matter how sentimental the value, the thread will not choose to invest AP into enchanting We-silk robes if Mathilde already has statistically superior armour (especially if they're already investing AP into training with that armour).
The whole point of the Armour of Von Tarnus is that AA stacks with it. That's one of the things that makes people want it. Therefore all the robes would need to do is be better than Mathilde's current set for it to be useful, and presumably if you want to enchant them, you already think that.
 
The whole point of the Armour of Von Tarnus is that AA stacks with it. That's one of the things that makes people want it. Therefore all the robes would need to do is be better than Mathilde's current set for it to be useful, and presumably if you want to enchant them, you already think that.

Yes the Armor of Von Tarnus lets cast AA stack, that does not mean Mathilde has two slots to wear armor in. She cannot wear two armors for the same reason she can't have sixteen activated items or something.
 
The whole point of the Armour of Von Tarnus is that AA stacks with it. That's one of the things that makes people want it. Therefore all the robes would need to do is be better than Mathilde's current set for it to be useful, and presumably if you want to enchant them, you already think that.
If the Armour of Von Tarnus wins, then that fills the armor slot. The Aethyric Armour will come from Mathilde casting it, and there will be no need to enchant robes that we cannot use.
 
Yes, we did indeed decide to fight a Higher Daemon of Slaanesh engaged in combat with an Emperor Dragon and the elf bearing one of the most overpowered magic items in the whole world. We did not however have to do it, we were fishing for Protector procs and those two could in fact handle it on their own.

'What if we are the last line of defense fighting a Higher Daemon?' strikes me as a rather niche thing to hang the AV boon on.
I'd like to point out that "we" the thread didn't in fact "decide" to engage the daemon, mathilde decided that on her own, with our input being that we voted to put mathilde on 'fire support'--in a vote where we in fact had 'MATHILDE: Seeking to physically attack Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes' as an option. So unless we manage to avoid mathilde being on a battlefield with a greater daemon on it, then "mathilde decides to go into melee with a greater daemon" is in fact something that can happen without thread input. Same way that "attack a very old and skilled vampire in his office in melee" wasn't a direct vote. Mathilde, in part from our past votes when we *were* given the option to decide things like that, is quite willing to go up against powerful enemies in melee without stopping to ask her subconscious to vote on it. I dont think its the *best* argument for the armor, but it isn't niche, imo.
 
[X] Armor of von Tarnus
[X] Break College Favor/ Tenure
[x] Plan: The Next Generation
-[x] Use the whole boon to have the gold college teach Eike everything she can learn about material-enchantment, alchemy(-adjacent if alchemy itself is too much), and all-around enhancing and supplementing her Natural Alchemist trait until she's a walking talking reverse-engineering machine that can pick up magical crafting skills lightning quick.
[X] Plan Tower of Doom! and Research!

Updating my vote now that the Armor is in second place.
 
I'd like to point out that "we" the thread didn't in fact "decide" to engage the daemon, mathilde decided that on her own, with our input being that we voted to put mathilde on 'fire support'--in a vote where we in fact had 'MATHILDE: Seeking to physically attack Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes' as an option. So unless we manage to avoid mathilde being on a battlefield with a greater daemon on it, then "mathilde decides to go into melee with a greater daemon" is in fact something that can happen without thread input. Same way that "attack a very old and skilled vampire in his office in melee" wasn't a direct vote. Mathilde, in part from our past votes when we *were* given the option to decide things like that, is quite willing to go up against powerful enemies in melee without stopping to ask her subconscious to vote on it. I dont think its the *best* argument for the armor, but it isn't niche, imo.

When one considers the total number of fights in which Mahilde has ever gotten into vs the ones in which it would have been useful it is indeed niche, if one expands that to the total number of actions performed it becomes very niche. Mathilde has done such things yes, it does not in my opinion define her to the point where it would make sense to spend all the good will gained from her Magnum Opus to make her that much better at it. Unless I guess one plans for her to get into those kinds of fights much more often, which is certainly an option, but not one I am interested in.
 
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer

Updating my vote because my favorite is in the lead and my least favourite is now third.

Edit: also if it actually comes to a tie I'm pretty certain boney is just gonna roll some dice for what gets used, which is personally my least favorite way but it's entirely fair and honest.
 
It occurs to me that a long time ago, Julia expressed her dream of Stirland being a trade nexus thanks to its position near Zhufbar and Karak Azgaraz, Black Fire Pass to the southwest, an array of Empire provinces to the north and west, the Moot to the east/south, and major rivers running through it.

Now, her dreams have come true in spades. Sylvania is pacified. Zhufbar and Barak Varr have dug a massive canal all the way through the Black Water and down into Stirland through Sylvania, directly connecting Stirland by water to a dwarf karak of innovation and industry and a dwarf karak that is a cosmopolitan trade hub (and a bit further down, to Karak Eight Peaks and Karak Azul). The EIC has invested heavily in building up the infrastructure for trading throughout the province, and another trade group has trade developed further towards the north.

But that's not all: now We-silk is about to hit the markets, creating a new Silk Road from Karak Eight Peaks stretching up to Barak Varr, up the canal to Stirland and then beyond. With Karak Eight Peaks having established ties with Stirland and the Moot and the EIC, lucrative goods are going to be flowing through Stirland for as long as We-silk remains popular (which is always).

That also makes Eastern Stirland more valuable as well, meaning that it's not just a backwater attracting only the odd figure, but also those looking for cheap land to settle that's still well-connected with economic activity in the wider Empire.

Stirland itself is undoubtedly going to be undergoing an economic boom in the near-future, with entire swathes of new land being developed and settled by people with money to spend. Zhufbar enjoying a neighborhood more secure than it has known in modern history will undoubtedly lead to increased economic opportunity as well. I could easily see Anton copying Mathilde's Gong Factory model for Blutdorf, too.
 
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer

Updating my vote because my favorite is in the lead and my least favourite is now third.

Edit: also if it actually comes to a tie I'm pretty certain boney is just gonna roll some dice for what gets used, which is personally my least favorite way but it's entirely fair and honest.

It should be noted that by that vote you just made your least favorite (tied for) second again.

If there are no more new voters and we are left in this 1-2 vote space those of us following closely are just going to end up jockeying around for our favorites, which means the ultimate result might have more to do with who's online at any given point to change their votes than anything else. I do not think a flat tie is likely when the vote closes.
 
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