The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)

[X]Plan: full frontal assault therapy
[X]Plan: full frontal assault terminators

[x] Plan: Sons Of Absolution
[x] Plan: Varangian Guard

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.

God the poll is gonna be bloated.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS A
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.
- [x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS B
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.
- [x] Law: This Chapter has a greater understanding of the Imperium's laws and regulations than normal, excellent for dealing with corrupt governors and foolish Inquisitors alike.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS C
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.
- [x] Law: This Chapter has a greater understanding of the Imperium's laws and regulations than normal, excellent for dealing with corrupt governors and foolish Inquisitors alike.
- [x] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V2
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Elite Assault Marines: The Assault Marines of this Chapter are a cut above the average, quite literally. Their greater skill offers enhanced fast assault and close quarters ability to the Chapter as a whole.
- [x] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has enough Assault Packs to equip extra Assault Marines

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V3a
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Elite Assault Marines: The Assault Marines of this Chapter are a cut above the average, quite literally. Their greater skill offers enhanced fast assault and close quarters ability to the Chapter as a whole.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has enough Assault Packs to equip extra Assault Marines.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V4a
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has enough Assault Packs to equip extra Assault Marines.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V5
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6a
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Elite Assault Marines: The Assault Marines of this Chapter are a cut above the average, quite literally. Their greater skill offers enhanced fast assault and close quarters ability to the Chapter as a whole.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6b
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Boarding Specialists: The Chapter's Marines are truly masters at boarding voidcraft - even by Space Marine standards.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6c
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Law: This Chapter has a greater understanding of the Imperium's laws and regulations than normal, excellent for dealing with corrupt governors and foolish Inquisitors alike.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6d
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V7
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V8
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Techmarines: This Chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
- [x] Boarding Specialists: The Chapter's Marines are truly masters at boarding voidcraft - even by Space Marine standards.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V9
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Boarding Specialists: The Chapter's Marines are truly masters at boarding voidcraft - even by Space Marine standards.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V10
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Boarding Specialists: The Chapter's Marines are truly masters at boarding voidcraft - even by Space Marine standards.
- [x] Law: This Chapter has a greater understanding of the Imperium's laws and regulations than normal, excellent for dealing with corrupt governors and foolish Inquisitors alike.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V11
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] Boarding Specialists: The Chapter's Marines are truly masters at boarding voidcraft - even by Space Marine standards.
- [x] Elite Assault Marines: The Assault Marines of this Chapter are a cut above the average, quite literally. Their greater skill offers enhanced fast assault and close quarters ability to the Chapter as a whole.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V12
- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers
- [x] Chapter Colors: Mainly black out with metallic gold right arm, left shoulder as per chapter of origin as option for the shamed through they can be allowed to keep their chapter of origin's colors if they don't believed themselves to have fallen into the shamed deeply
- [x] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Thunderbolt striking over a Black Shield crest with a nonspecific hound on it
- [x] Chapter Creed: For those who are shamed & shunned, you will find not only death but honor, glory, & brotherhood one day among us
--[x] Chapter Battlecry: WE SHALL FACED DEATH WITH GLORY & HONOR!
- [x] 2 Charges of Extra Trainers.
- [x] 1 Charge of More Terminators.
- [x] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour, more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
- [x] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
- [x] More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
- [x] Elite Assault Marines: The Assault Marines of this Chapter are a cut above the average, quite literally. Their greater skill offers enhanced fast assault and close quarters ability to the Chapter as a whole.
- [x] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks.

[X]Plan: full frontal assault therapy

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1
Don't want redundant Chaplains to win.

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.

Jeez, it's hard to keep track of the 999 variations of the same plan. The walls of text make my brain dizzy.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6b

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.

Why do people keep voting for chaplains when it's been pointed out that they are pretty much redundant for this chapter when they already get extra chaplains? And before anyone says doubling up should be pointed out that the QM in the past did say that some choices were indeed flat redundant and didn't add much,

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.
-[X] Chapter Name: Reborn Crusaders.
-[X] Chapter Colours: Due to assembling Marines from other Chapters, Reborn Crusaders lack formal Chapters colours and great variety can be observed in the colouration and iconography of the Chapter's armaments. The most common however are:
--[X] Battle-Brothers: Blue Primary, White Secondary, with Bronze helmets and armour trim.
--[X] Chaplains: Mostly White, with Right Golden Gauntlet and Scarlet Left Gauntlet. The Right Gauntlet symbolizes Emperor's protection and guidance of Humanity, while the Left Gauntlet, represents Emperor's wrath and justice destined for Imperium's enemies.
--[X] Veterans: Do not paint their armour fully, instead they use unpainted ceramite as background, for Red, White and Blue symbols and lines, those symbols are artistic representations of the Veterans history and deeds in the Chapter. This tradition among the distinguished and experienced Reborn Crusaders was started by Marines who originally hailed from other Chapters.
-[X] Chapter Symbol: Blue and White Phoenix, rising from Red Lotus. Representing rebirth/absolution through duty and battle.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "In Duty Absolution."
--[X] Chapter Battle-Cry: "Let Battle Wash Away the Sins!"
-[X]2 Charges of Extra Trainers
-[X]1 Charge of More Terminators
-[X] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.
-[X] Deepstrikes: More so than even other Space Marines, this Chapter has gained a mastery of the orbital strikes Adeptus Astartes are famous for.
-[X] Terminator Training: The Marines of this Chapter are supremely skilled in using the legendary Tactical Dreadnought Armour,more commonly known as Terminator Armor.
-[X] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has a great number of Assault Packs, letting them retain a greater number of Assault Marines in each Company.

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.
[X]Plan: full frontal assault therapy
[X] Plan: Varangian Guard

[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS
[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6
[X] Plan: Varangian Guard
[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS B

I'm more of a Chaplains and Thunderhawks kind of person for this chapter.

ToastCrunch said:

[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS
[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V6
[X] Plan: Varangian Guard
[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON BONUS B

I'm more of a Chaplains and Thunderhawks kind of person for this chapter.

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Chaplains are redundant though. We get them for free, it'll literally be a waste...

[x] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1

Red Bovine said:

Why do people keep voting for chaplains when it's been pointed out that they are pretty much redundant for this chapter when they already get extra chaplains? And before anyone says doubling up should be pointed out that the QM in the past did say that some choices were indeed flat redundant and didn't add much,

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Somnia said:

Chaplains are redundant though. We get them for free, it'll literally be a waste...

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Okay. But did Frog say that this is redundant in this specific case? Because I didn't see this anywhere and I would like proof that it will be redundant for this Chapter. Otherwise, it might just result in much better, numerous Chaplains. Because it wouldn't impact just the numbers but also quality of the Chaplains.

undead frog said:

[ ] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.

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While, the Shamed request, only increases the Chaplains numbers.

undead frog said:

Conditions: Chapter gains politics training for free, extra Chaplains, and will be of an unusual size.

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So, unless Frog says otherwise, I have to assume, that it wouldn't be redundant, the opposite, and will result in a extremely numerous but also highly trained and good Chaplains.

Also, if you just bothered to check things, you would find out, that the winning plan, doesn't have Chaplains anyway. So please, can you stop complaining and demanding from people to not vote for a plan that they like, just because you don't like said plan?

Dr. Gairyuki said:

- [x] Chapter Name: Thunder Redeemers

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hard to roll of the tongue
can we change it to Thunderous Redeemers?

[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1

fweee said:

Jeez, it's hard to keep track of the 999 variations of the same plan. The walls of text make my brain dizzy.

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Yeah, that one was on me. Let just say that I got carried away with the plans.

Dlan the Wizard said:

Okay. But did Frog say that this is redundant in this specific case? Because I didn't see this anywhere and I would like proof that it will be redundant for this Chapter. Otherwise, it might just result in much better, numerous Chaplains. Because it wouldn't impact just the numbers but also quality of the Chaplains.



While, the Shamed request, only increases the Chaplains numbers.



So, unless Frog says otherwise, I have to assume, that it wouldn't be redundant, the opposite, and will result in a extremely numerous but also highly trained and good Chaplains.

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That was what my thought processes was when making these plans.

[X] Plan: Reborn Crusaders.

[X] Plan: Thunder Redeemers V1