[ ] Plan: Athens (Intelligent)
-[ ]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[ ]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[ ]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[ ]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[ ]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[ ]Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[ ]Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
-[ ] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
It really does seem like this chapter doesn't really need anymore combat considering that they would be dealing with people that normal SM's would easily stomp. Also seems like extra librarians wouldn't actually be that useful due to their visions being pretty random, besides feels like pick librarians all the time is getting old.
As others have said chaplains seem like they make more sense over librarians since their whole thing is rooting out corruption and treachery, which makes sense if they are meant to deal with nobles. Counter intelligence also seems fitting since expect corrupt nobles to try hiding things and it would help find out if rebellions are being backed by Chaos in the first place. Politics also seems like it's a must in this case.
[ ] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
Beyond that, no objections, we really are going too much into Psykers, especially in a setting where there exists multiple different paranatural forces and ways to manipulate reality.
We might be making a critical error here, a fair few of our plans seem based on the idea the chapter will be arriving before the rebellion or investigating a place to see if they are in fact rebelling.
But most rebellions will be composed from baseline Humans, it's hardly a challenge for a group of well armed, super-soldiers. Even Chaos rebellions will be mostly just Humans, with only few Daemons that they were able to summon by sheer luck or be supported/organized by powerful Champions and/or Chaos Space Marine. They really don't need to be geared for combat and taking on Greater Daemons or Eldar Phoenix Lords.
Being able to recognize just what's the problem is and for what reasons people are rebelling, would still be useful, even after the rebellion started and this Chapter will be spreading democracy, so being able to manipulate the politics of the planet and the wider Imperium to effectively convert planets, to the Chapter system of governance, will be very useful.
Okay so seems like it would make more sense to replace scout training with counter intelligence since it actually works better for what we intend in information gathering.
Okay so seems like it would make more sense to replace scout training with counter intelligence since it actually works better for what we intend in information gathering.
[ ] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
The description makes no such distinctions. Counterintelligence only says, the Chapter will be better at protecting itself from infiltration. Nothing more. While Scouts, says they will be better at intelligence gathering, not the specific kind of the intelligence they will gather.
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[]Plan: The wisdom of Athens
Ive seen other good plans but they chose thunderhawks over dreadnaughts which seems like a waste to me, I like the direction these two plans are going in.
Hmm, Politics is likely useful for dealing with emerging/lingering discontent and the effects of Idealogy Spread, and I wanna see how it works here and how it mixes with Law Masters, but I'm struggling between quite a few choices. Assuming the Chapter's role is to act as a rapid response unit to crush a revolt as it ramps up then move onto the next one rather than act as Inquisitor Space Marines and thoroughly dig out dissidents/corruption after the conflict, I'm leaning on Politics+Spear Training+Scout Training+Extra Thunderhawks. Spear Training would be good for combat and the theme, Scout Training for info gathering (I'm not sure how Scout and Counterintelligence compare for the intended assignment, but I'm leaning more on Scout Training for the combat applications). Could Chaplains help with Restless Dreadnaughts? Deepstrikes or Elite Assault Marines for shock tactics and decapitation strikes? Gah, I'm torn.
[X] Plan: Imperial Resources Sentinels-Spears.
-[X] Chapter Name: Imperial Resources Sentinels.
-[X] Chapter Colours: Cyan and Glaucous in quartered pattern, with Yellow pauldrons and Bronze trim.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "The pen is mightier than any sword."
--[X] Battle cry: "The Tithe shall be collected!"
-[X] Chapter Symbol: Blue scales of justice, with owl wings at it's sides and abbreviation of Chapter's name below it.
-[X] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X] Spear Training: The Chapter is especially well trained in the use of spear and javelin like weapons, this does not cover staves or polearms however.
-[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
[X] Plan: Imperial Resources Sentinels-Chaplains.
-[X] Chapter Name: Imperial Resources Sentinels.
-[X] Chapter Colours: Cyan and Glaucous in quartered pattern, with Yellow pauldrons and Bronze trim.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "The pen is mightier than any sword."
--[X] Battle cry: "The Tithe shall be collected!"
-[X] Chapter Symbol: Blue scales of justice, with owl wings at it's sides and abbreviation of Chapter's name below it.
-[X] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.
-[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
[X] Plan: Imperial Resources Sentinels-Librarians.
-[X] Chapter Name: Imperial Resources Sentinels.
-[X] Chapter Colours: Cyan and Glaucous in quartered pattern, with Yellow pauldrons and Bronze trim.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "The pen is mightier than any sword."
--[X] Battle cry: "The Tithe shall be collected!"
-[X] Chapter Symbol: Blue scales of justice, with owl wings at it's sides and abbreviation of Chapter's name below it.
-[X] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
-[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
[X] Plan: Athens (Spears)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X]Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X]Spear Training: The Chapter is especially well trained in the use of spear and javelin like weapons, this does not cover staves or polearms however.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
[X] Plan: Athens (Intelligent)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X]Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X]Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
[X] Plan: Athens (Oracles)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X]Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X]Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
[X] Plan: Athens (Chosen)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X]Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X]More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
Adhoc vote count started by DXCS on Oct 20, 2024 at 3:37 PM, finished with 92 posts and 6 votes.
[X] Plan: Imperial Resources Sentinels-Spears.
-[X] Chapter Name: Imperial Resources Sentinels.
-[X] Chapter Colours: Cyan and Glaucous in quartered pattern, with Yellow pauldrons and Bronze trim.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "The pen is mightier than any sword."
--[X] Battle cry: "The Tithe shall be collected!"
-[X] Chapter Symbol: Blue scales of justice, with owl wings at it's sides and abbreviation of Chapter's name below it.
-[X] Scout Training: The Chapter's Marines are given more advanced training in the art of scouting, and as a result more of its Marines remain as dedicated scouts - even after being promoted from the rank of Scout Marine proper. They afford greater reconnaissance and intelligence gathering abilities, as well as improved capacity for stealth warfare.
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X] Spear Training: The Chapter is especially well trained in the use of spear and javelin like weapons, this does not cover staves or polearms however.
-[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
[X] Plan: Athens (Spears)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X] Spear Training: The Chapter is especially well trained in the use of spear and javelin like weapons, this does not cover staves or polearms however.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
[X] Plan: Athens (Intelligent)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X]Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
[X] Plan: Athens (Oracles)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
[X] Plan: Athens (Chosen)
-[X]Name: The Sons of Atherena
--[X]Colors: Cyan and Grey with Yellow trims.
--[X]Symbol: A grey owl holding a pen and scrolls in one claw and a sword and spear in the other.
--[X]Creed: The pen is mightier than the sword.
--[X]Warcry: All will heed our words!
-[X] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
-[X]More Champions: This Chapter has more Champions than most can claim.
-[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
