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The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)

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[X] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition
-[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
-[X] Chapter Colours:
--[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
--[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
--[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
-[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
-[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
--[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
-[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
-[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
-[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
-[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.

For those, including me, who do not see a point of Artillery mastery.
 
[X] Plan: Celestial Dragons - hoard management

[X] Plan: Celestial Dragons

[X] Plan: The Golden Sons.

[X] Plan: Hic Sunt Dracones

[X] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition
 
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Gabriel_TFA said:
[X] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition

For those, including me, who do not see a point of Artillery mastery.
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Okay I agree that something like entrenchment actually makes a lot more sense than something like artillery mastery since it isn't redundant and seems like it would actually synergies with our chapters current traits and skills involving librarians and tech marines.
 
Red Bovine said:
Okay I agree that something like entrenchment actually makes a lot more sense than something like artillery mastery since it isn't redundant and seems like it would actually synergies with our chapters current traits and skills involving librarians and tech marines.
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That is what I said! Especially if they pull what Steel Champions did...but on bigger scale!

I think other think as mundane and that "offence is the best defence".
 
Adhoc vote count started by ShieldCrown on Oct 10, 2024 at 3:07 PM, finished with 234 posts and 53 votes.
  • [X] Plan: The Golden Sons
    -[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
    -[X] Chapter Colours:
    --[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
    --[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    --[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
    --[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Artillery Masters: The Chapter are masters at employing artillery in times of war, both on offense and defense.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY! (Dreadnought Version)
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
    -[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[x] Librarians
    -[x] Blademasters
    -[x] Techmarines
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    -[x] Extra Dreadnoughts
    [X] Plan: Hic Sunt Dracones
    -[x] Write in Name: Emperor's Dragons
    -[x] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors: Golden Scales withe Red Trim.
    -[x] Write in chapter symbol.This but made of Golden Flame
    -[x] Write in chapter creed. (Optional). "Come not between the dragon, and his wrath." "Hoard those closest too you, and burn all who endanger them!"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    [X] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition
    -[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
    -[X] Chapter Colours:
    --[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
    --[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    --[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
    --[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: Dragonborn Paladins
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[X] Colors: Gold Primary, Royal Blue Secondary
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon's Head within a Star all done in gold on royal blue background.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    [x] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY!
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
    -[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[x] Librarians
    -[x] Blademasters
    -[x] Techmarines
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    -[x] Extra Assault Packs
    [X] Plan: Celestial Dragons - hoard management
    -[X] Write in Name: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors.: Gold scales and ruby red detail
    -[X] Write in chapter symbol.: Golden dragon on a black background
    -[X] Write in chapter creed. (Optional).: "Lives are emperor's currency, hoard them well"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.2 (with Extra Dreadnoughts)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.1 (with Extra Thunderhawks)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.3 (with Specialist Ammo)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Specialist Ammo: The Chapter has a ready source of specialized bolter rounds, letting them bring the best possible ammunition for any engagement.
    [X] Plan: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in Name: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors.: Gold scales and ruby red detail
    -[X] Write in chapter symbol.:
    -[X] Write in chapter creed. (Optional).: "Lives are emperor's currency, hoard them well"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Apothecaries: This chapter has extra Apothecaries among its ranks, greatly improving the health of the Chapter overall and raising the odds of Marines surviving severe injuries.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
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Adhoc vote count started by RedWake on Oct 10, 2024 at 3:29 PM, finished with 237 posts and 53 votes.
  • [X] Plan: The Golden Sons
    -[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
    -[X] Chapter Colours:
    --[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
    --[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    --[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
    --[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Artillery Masters: The Chapter are masters at employing artillery in times of war, both on offense and defense.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY! (Dreadnought Version)
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
    -[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[x] Librarians
    -[x] Blademasters
    -[x] Techmarines
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    -[x] Extra Dreadnoughts
    [X] Plan: The Golden Sons - Entrenchment Edition
    -[X] Chapter Name: The Golden Sons.
    -[X] Chapter Colours:
    --[X] Most Astartes: Gold primary, Bright Red secondary.
    --[X] Librarians: Add Royal Blue to their armour coloration, usually: Left Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    --[X] Techmarines: Add Bright Green to their armour coloration, usually: Right Gauntlet, Both Pauldrons and Helmet.
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: Golden Dragon, representation of their Homeworld.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Hoard, Guard Them Well!".
    --[X] Battle Cry: "Burn In Our Light Xeno/Mutant/Traitor/Daemon!".
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan: Hic Sunt Dracones
    -[x] Write in Name: Emperor's Dragons
    -[x] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors: Golden Scales withe Red Trim.
    -[x] Write in chapter symbol.This but made of Golden Flame
    -[x] Write in chapter creed. (Optional). "Come not between the dragon, and his wrath." "Hoard those closest too you, and burn all who endanger them!"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    [X] Plan: Dragonborn Paladins
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[X] Colors: Gold Primary, Royal Blue Secondary
    -[X] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon's Head within a Star all done in gold on royal blue background.
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    [x] Plan: SWORD, STEEL, SORCERY!
    -[X] Name: The Dragons Radiant
    -[x] Colors: Gold Primary, Blue Secondary
    -[x] Chapter Symbol: A Dragon Surrounding a Star
    -[X] Chapter Creed: "The People Are The Emperor's Treasure, Guard Them Well!"
    -[X] Battle Cry: "We Are The Light And Flame!"
    -[x] Librarians
    -[x] Blademasters
    -[x] Techmarines
    -[X] Terminator Charge
    -[x] Extra Assault Packs
    [X] Plan: Celestial Dragons - hoard management
    -[X] Write in Name: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors.: Gold scales and ruby red detail
    -[X] Write in chapter symbol.: Golden dragon on a black background
    -[X] Write in chapter creed. (Optional).: "Lives are emperor's currency, hoard them well"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.2 (with Extra Dreadnoughts)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.1 (with Extra Thunderhawks)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power.
    [X] Plan Surviving in Segmentum Solar V1.3 (with Specialist Ammo)
    -[X] Emperor's Dragons
    -[X] White as Primary Color, Golden as Secondary Color
    -[X] Golden Dragon's head that "breathes fire", on White background
    -[X] "We are flames that burn both Warp Spawn and their servants in Materium. However, loyal subjects of Emperor are spared of our Wrath."
    -[X] Entrenchment: The Chapter is better at erecting and maintaining fortifications than average.
    -[x] Counterintelligence Training: The Chapter is proficient in the art of detecting and thwarting enemy infiltration attempts.
    -[x] Politics: This Chapter has grown adept at manipulating the surrounding political landscape. A sad necessity, in the increasingly politically driven Imperium.
    -[X] Specialist Ammo: The Chapter has a ready source of specialized bolter rounds, letting them bring the best possible ammunition for any engagement.
    [X] Plan: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in Name: Celestial Dragons
    -[X] Write in or post a picture of the chapter colors.: Gold scales and ruby red detail
    -[X] Write in chapter symbol.:
    -[X] Write in chapter creed. (Optional).: "Lives are emperor's currency, hoard them well"
    -[X] Librarians: The Chapter's Librarians are particularly well trained, and have far greater resistance to the temptations of the warp. They are far less likely to fall to Perils of the Warp, and offer more potent psychic support.
    -[X] Apothecaries: This chapter has extra Apothecaries among its ranks, greatly improving the health of the Chapter overall and raising the odds of Marines surviving severe injuries.
    -[X] Techmarines: This chapter has more Techmarines in its ranks than normal, improving the quality of their equipment and allowing them to create a greater quantity of advanced wargear.
    -[X] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course.
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It's not even close a 21 vote lead is hard to break that's the power of Flavor text!
 
*Sees current tally* the Golden Sons seem likely to win this. Also that is a lot of Gold I'm looking at. Where the heck are my sunglasses?
 
So can anyone give a counter argument for artillery not being pretty redundant for this chapter? I am genuinely curious about why people are insisting on artillery despite the argument but no one having given a counter argument against it.
 
Red Bovine said:
So can anyone give a counter argument for artillery not being pretty redundant for this chapter? I am genuinely curious about why people are insisting on artillery despite the argument but no one having given a counter argument against it.
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I have to agree with this argument. Considering that this Chapter are golden dragons in human form along side with actual dragons, artillery is not something that would be useful.
 
And entretchment means their fortress monastery and other stuff is much better with adition of synergy between Librarians, Techmarines, Crucible Throne, Radiance, Anethama, Golden Flames and Golden Dragons.

Btw, how big they are?
 
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