Just Harry at the moment, though lash can use a scene long power in good time as she is exposed so she's effectively immune. Molly can also make herself immune at the cost of 1 Essence.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
Just Harry at the moment, though lash can use a scene long power in good time as she is exposed so she's effectively immune. Molly can also make herself immune at the cost of 1 Essence.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] Plan Don't wait for nightfall and waste another 6 or so fucking hours
[X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
-[X] Do so right now, the Reds on our side go in as soon as there's a cloud-cover, Molly and the cyborgs take point for now
-[X] Leave several of your party members behind
--[X] Harry, a proper wizard used to this kind of magic
--[X] Tiffany for her understanding of old powers
--[X] Mutt and Adkins, for further guarding and occult insights respectivly
[X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
-[X] Do so right now, the Reds on our side go in as soon as there's a cloud-cover, Molly and the cyborgs take point for now
-[X] Leave several of your party members behind
--[X] Harry, a proper wizard used to this kind of magic
--[X] Tiffany for her understanding of old powers
--[X] Mutt and Adkins, for further guarding and occult insights respectivly
The vote is very close and I do not want to stop the discussion while it is still ongoing so I might as well show you guys what some of those hidden rolls were doing, specifically what Silk has been up to.
- Location
- portugal
[X] Plan Don't wait for nightfall and waste another 6 or so fucking hours
[X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
-[X] Do so right now, the Reds on our side go in as soon as there's a cloud-cover, Molly and the cyborgs take point for now
-[X] Leave several of your party members behind
--[X] Harry, a proper wizard used to this kind of magic
--[X] Tiffany for her understanding of old powers
--[X] Mutt and Adkins, for further guarding and occult insights respectivly
[X] Let Harrowmont go aheal with his ritual just as you make your way into the tunnels, hopefully stretch Sandra's attention to the breaking point
-[X] Do so right now, the Reds on our side go in as soon as there's a cloud-cover, Molly and the cyborgs take point for now
-[X] Leave several of your party members behind
--[X] Harry, a proper wizard used to this kind of magic
--[X] Tiffany for her understanding of old powers
--[X] Mutt and Adkins, for further guarding and occult insights respectivly
Because she's squishy?
She's one of the only ones here that would need medical assistance during the fight anyway.
^^^
Our combat medic AND our best magic sensor to boot.
Harry needs to open the Sight and risk SAN damage to see what Lash can, and Lash literally has miles of range.
Going to note, for the sake of other people, that this is not true.
Apocalyptic Form!Lash has Soak 7(Stamina 3 + Marble Skin 4), even without borrowing faemail equivalent armor(Armor 3, no DC penalty) or a Kevlar vest(Armor 3, -1 dex penalty) from Sanctuary/Molly's cyborgs, which we will. Either of those would put her at Soak 10. She can also activate Mist-Wreathed Form to add +2DC to ranged attacks and +1DC to melee attacks against her.
For comparison? Lydia had Soak 2 when we fought Kattrin and the possessed submarine.
Soak 2 when we fought the Will of Kakuri.
Soak 2 (I think )when we fought the Lesser Walker at the Raith estate.
The claims of squishiness are based on.....inaccurate premises.
PS
Harry has an enchanted trenchcoat that is the equivalent of at least Armor 5 and which has stopped rifle fire.
Plus his ability to activate shields.
So thats worth keeping in mind when evaluating his tankiness.
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- Location
- Germany
Only a very limited part of that applies to aggravated stuff, like fire or magic-enhanced poisons.
Molly meanwhile soaks almost everything easily and even soaks poison at significantly reduced difficulty.
Edit: And she and Lydia just have much more health than a human, so much more that they could both take enough damage to kill Lash or Harry with ease, and stay standing.
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Arc 11 Interlude 6: Of Veils Torn
Of Veils Torn
13th of January 2007 A.D.
Seeing the Xanadu as it was not, overturned and crawling with local cops and National Guard soldiers, firefighters, EMTs and men in suits was almost enough to make Silk run and hide, find a bed or a couch, find a pillow and pull it over her head. She hated, hated, hated confrontation, seeing people unhappy made her stomach coil into a knot, fear was like a phantom itch all over and anger... anger was the worst. But she could not just leave them to their own fate and to the whims of the suits.
"Mrs are you OK?" the agent across from her said, his voice a soothing baritone. "Do you want a drink? I know it can be hard to process sometimes..." Silence felt heavy as lead.
Fuck me I can't even think their names. Cindy, Lance and Wanda, there. The sorceress shivered with a combination of tension, disbelief at what had just happened and black despair at what had happened. She'd been so happy to see them, good friends and stout drinking buddies 'minions incorporated' as the joke went. And then Cindy had pulled a gun and Lance had sprayed the V. right in her face. Wanda had been in the process of pulling a knife, eyes going black.
"Do I look that old?" she asked, sounding remote to her own ears.
Madness, and treason all the way down, the thought was inescapable. in the grip of the V it had been plain luck that she hadn't succumbed and joined in. Most people on it just zoned out, but once you built a tolerance it was more like feeling more and thinking less, very useful to get someone worked up before a fight or to get them to fight when they didn't mean to. Maybe their patrons had turned, that would do it...
"Miss then, look I don't want to pry, but it's my job... well it's my job to pry in some pretty weird places if you know what I mean?"
A quick nod was Silk's only answer.
"You knew the people you took down in the lobby didn't you?" He had a very bright smile against the ebony skin, he had friendly eyes too.
"I don't know what you're talking about. They surrendered." she got out, not as convincingly as she could have, the magic had run out and she wasn't sure if it was safe to invoke it again, still whoozy and under so many eyes.
"Miss, I know what someone getting cold feet looks like and I know what some damn fool fumbling a gun looks like too. That wasn't either..." The agent, Leo she thought his name was and he was well named from the way those eyes fixed hers. "I know you're scared and I know you would rather do anything but talk about it, but there's a open war between vampires, yeah I said it, and you got caught in the middle, twice. Either someone really wants you dead or they really want a massacre out here."
"You don't know anything!" Silk spit out suddenly as angry as she was drained. She just wanted this whole stupid interview to be over.
"I know enough to guess why three of the rooms out back have blackout curtains," he answered dropping the facade. "I'm not here to make judgements on people's lives nor their character, but I know a thing or two about power struggles. An organization that gets into a fight like this, it's still going you know," he shakes his head almost in disappointment. "There's no going back. Someone's going to come in from outside and take it over and they aren't going to have a light grip, they aren't going to be cutting good deals."
"That sounds like you think you have a better one," Silk said, interested despite herself. She'd always been too curious for her own good, especially when it came to people. She expected him to say something like 'above my paygrade'.
Instead his smile got just a little broader. "The Special Collections Division of the Library of Congress has a long and not storied history of deputizing people Miss Silk, people of good character in the wrong place at the wrong time who need to start fresh when the dust settles."
For one dangerous moment Silk considered it. It wasn't that she hated the gouvernment, she had avoided the law for much of her life, but that was a natural thing for a girl in her profession, but no. She couldn't, she'd just start again, small at first, a whisper in the right ear, a bit of advice honestly meant, a little push and before she knew it another body, this one in the sights of people who would be able to put two adn two together. She needed the V. She did not even notice her hand trembling.
"Vampires, vampires are trouble aren't they?" Agent Leo asked, almost iddly. "Hard to kill, harder to capture. Still with the right knowledge, quick thinking and a dash of luck you can do both."
"I don't know what you're..."
"It's alright not to want to go cold turkey," he interjected. "Hell I still smoke and they tell me that stuff's gonna kill me. Compared to that the stuff that comes out of a vampire, apparently completely safe as long as you dose it out right and don't use it as a fucking weapon. Your choice Miss..."
It was Silk's turn to interject, just testing the waters, she assured herself. "What do you want to know?"
OOC: So yeah Silk got attacked by a bunch of Infected who were her friends, if she had not made that willpower roll and then overpowered them with magic things would have been messy at the Xanadu as is she got the Library pitch. It's not often they get the chance to poach a full wizard talent with nowhere else to go.
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Like literally all of the cyborg troops we are about to bring from Sanctuary.
And unlike them, she can actually make it extra-difficult to even hit her.
With Mist-Wreathed Form active, your standard ranged attack now has to beat DC8 instead of DC6, and the Incarnate stops being a good target.
Using the Infernal soak monster as a benchmark for comparison is......a little imbalanced.
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- Location
- Germany
They are mooks though.
They and the Reds will take losses here, that's inevitable from the moment we decided to bring them.
Huh. Sandra sent Infected/dhampirs AFTER the bombing to finish the job.
We were assuming all the dhampirs were loyalists.
I dont think we can assume that any longer.
*raises eyebrow*
Full wizard huh?
I thought Silk was a self-taught lesser sorcerer like in canon.
I'd rather not take losses. That was the point of deploying cyborgs in milspec gear.
The Einherjar took no losses against the akuma, and they had apparently normal mortal soak. Less than Lash is going to be walking around with when geared up.
Yeah, but it's clearly not impossible to defeat and we can run a little interference where needed. Ultimately I view all options as risks of one kind or another here and am entirely unwilling to risk giving more time to the opposition.
And you want to trust him as the principle caster in a ritual? Cause I'm sure his many issues will definitely play well with what he thinks are white council reps.
I'd prefer launching a full raid with the debuff up as well, but practically the options on the table are waiting several hours to get the whole group or striking now with less than that.
You keep treating not acting as some neutral option when what it's doing is spending our most limited resource; time. The chaos magic ritual going off was the result of passivity on our part. There are plenty of things to be concerned about from acting too quickly, but a significant portion of our current problems are rooted in being too slow. Continuing to make the same mistake is unwise.
That was my mistake, but it ultimately doesn't change the math for me to any significant degree.
Every bit of extra time we've given her has resulted in things getting worse, and we're talking about trading Sandra hours of extra time to spend however she likes for some vampires and handling one of her side projects.
If we asked the cyber devils to summarize this trip here is what they'd give us:
This tactic has been so effective I don't see why Sandra would stop using it. I generally agree with you on taking the meticulous approach, but an important part of this recognizing when the reflex to wait for more information or a better opportunity becomes a risky behavior and manage it like you would anything else.
It's not like this is the only time we've been bitten either. I think the consequences of this approach are generally lesser than dipping too far the other way, but the Will of Kakuri still punked us multiple times when we voted to run hours of prep right before his end game.
I could meet in the middle on delaying while also investing in things that actively take her time and attention for the entire duration. However, if the options are attack now or attack later with a better position and hope she doesn't use the extra hours to screw us again I'd like to exercise some basic pattern recognition.
Mired in delays would require us playing nice. They're invited to chase the barely subsonic blender as we carve a straight line to wherever Sandra is.
Hell, why even use the front door? This is a turbo fucked situation, so why not spend willpower to active TTC and burrow directly onto her head like we did with the pathfinders? Add ATP so she can't acknowledge what we're doing until it's either obviously a direct interaction or touches something she really cares about. This may be her big moment, but just approaching someone shouldn't be a breaching condition for the charm.
I highly doubt they prepared for that.
The world's best screwdriver makes a shitty hammer. If the reds aren't suitable for the context at hand then we should discard them instead of letting them anchor us.
- Location
- washington
I'm so tired I thought you were saying no one else anywhere has shaping defenses.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I mean that is also possible. At least we never see shaping defenses in DF beyond just counter spelling.
She has Soulgaze in the book, that is the mark of a full wizard, if one who is limited because she's self-taught.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
There are a million different patrons in DF. If the library has good records they can likely guide their agents to make good deals. Once we get the right charms I expect that Molly could be added to that book.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Can we? U.S. government has something of a home field advantage and we haven't gone for the good deal charms.
After all the U.S. can also use a bit of stick as well by talking about criminal investigations.
Nah, we can and should get VEE and the fate bending. Not to mentio curing the blood thing. We can make the better deal. And there is no stick, they can't bring charges for being addicted to V. Anything else we can get a good lawyer to destroy their case. Its not like they have evidence.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If we get VEE of course we can offer a far better deal. However that is making plans about unhatched chickens. I know that uju32 hates the very idea of us getting it and he has a lot of influence.
The V thing isn't the problem for her, it's the solution, how she handles the addiction of Black Magic. The Agent did not catch that, but she was thinking of it near the end.
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