-[X] Urban Environment-Metro Integration: Cyber's
--[X] [Additional Action] Design New Housing Concept (Design)
---[X] LSEEH 2.0
--[X] [Additional Action] Design A Civilian Vehicle (Describe) (-2 Reputation)
---[X] Urban Transport Vehicle Family*
*Based on Modular Skateboard Chassis: Bus, Cargo Lorry/Delivery Van, Taxi, etc.
Ok, let me explain.
Urban rail transport infrastructure is so intrinsically tied to the urban concept itself that if you do them separately you leave a LOT of optimization on the table.
In this case we could try to make a 15 minute city using 800m radius catchment areas centred on metro stations, but that would end up with a LOT of redundancy which means the system is costlier.
We could add roads for buses which will be more flexible and provide more frequent stops that can feed into a metro station, but that means having to deal with pedestrians and cars sharing the grade.
We could lift the trains up on viaducts or put theumnderground via cut and cover, but those are both, while the cheapest way of doing it, still very expensive compared to just running them at grade.
After thinking about this a bunch and talking with people, the best answer I've found is to put the roads and rails on the ground level, and then put the pedestrian streets above them on a podium that encircles the base of each city block. Podium construction is nothing new, we already use it for our LSEEHs I think - it;s a concrete foundation on top of which we put wood framed buildings. This just expends it out. In fact, the concept has been percolating in South East Asia for a very long time.
They're just difficult to do because they require a combination of willingness to put in expensive design and standardization work, making people follow said standards, and lacking backwards compatibility.
In our case we don't care about backwards compatibility since previous housing is pretty shit and we're tearing it all down, and we're willing to put in the effort to do the design work, and we have buy-in from both the populace and the Ouvry.
Here are some illustration of what I mean:
You can see the base plate that pedestrian areas are built on. Through in this case the density is much higher than what I'm envisioning.
We'd probably not go beyond 8 floors high in total.
Again, much higher density than what I'm proposing, but you get the idea.
(sigh) This is the problem with your source being a Singaporean. Urban planning always turns into high density cyberpunk with him.
Ours will be much closer to a Barcelonian Superblock:
Anyways, rail metro + electric buses with collocated terminals, and raised pedestrian streets with bike lanes. With utilities and logistics on the first floor (AC, heating, laundry, loading and unloading docks, storage), then the actual residential/commercial spaces on top of that utility plate.
1. You can, but I won't be throwing penalties at you if you do, and neither will I do rewards. This is train time, not bus time.Herocooky,
1: do we provide details on the bus system at the same time as the metro and train system? (layout/decoration of buses and bus stations for example ?,i dont remember it was donne before)
2: are there animals on Guangchou that would justify the addition of a cowcatcher at the front of the trains?
Any chance of getting one for a pet?
zoologist must be so intriged by that thing,as much as i know it's the only six legged mamal specie in the world
No, they aren't real. I was being funni.
*Sad cat-lover noises*
1. You can, but I won't be throwing penalties at you if you do, and neither will I do rewards. This is train time, not bus time.
2. Six-Legged Floppa.
You were going to deny us the kitties? YOU MONSTER!
Then we must make them real!,gather our best and most impressive researchers and then gather our slightly less good and impressive researchers so they make our best and most impressive researchers even more impressive by comparison!
In order:QM, will the telephone/network infrastructure need to be extended like the electrical infrastructure?
What is its current condition?, public telephone box, telephones in bars and cafes, government building only, one telephone per building?
I'm not sure it's a very good idea?, I mean the gain in space is small compared to the loss in ergonomics, maybe instead have a staircase every few cars and ladders for the rest?, or else the station platforms have a second floor and passengers go directly to the second floor of the train with their luggage via doors on the side of the second floor of the train, or am I misunderstanding?
- Top and bottom levels only have an emergency ladder to go from one to the other - stairs are omitted to crew more space for passangers
I'm not sure it's a very good idea?, I mean the gain in space is small compared to the loss in ergonomics, maybe instead have a staircase every few cars and ladders for the rest?, or else the station platforms have a second floor and passengers go directly to the second floor of the train with their luggage via doors on the side of the second floor of the train, or am I misunderstanding?
make more sense, we must just explicitly state that we do not recommend people with reduced mobility to use the second floor in the event of a crash (guys in a wheelchair/cast and emergency ladder are not a good mix), may be an inflatable/deployable slide on the second floor doors to facilitate evacuation too, like on planes?Yes, were doing level boarding on each level vi a two fleer station.
Sorry for the confusion.