[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.

Both kind and the most fun option, plus injecting Nerima/Ranma grade Chaos into the foundation of Usagi's new nation will likely leave it fairly resistant to the shenanigans of others.

Any attempt to infiltrate, corrupt or undermine Usagi's fledgling nation would just bounce off the sheer density of fuckery the combination of Moon Magic and Ranma nonsense would create.
 
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[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.

Also, I was under the impression that only Ami and Moon were capable of long range teleportation? Well, outside of to their respective planets. Am I wrong and any of the Senshi can teleport beyond line of sight distance?

Also must note, that no one let Ranma read the Namek Saga the seed of an idea of gravity training is already in their mind.
I'm not sure he knows what anime is, considering he'd never been to an arcade before living in Nerima.
 
[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.

The high risk, high gain option IMO among the help them flee options. And I'm willing to go for that.
 
But seriously, I doubt these people will be fine on their own, even if the Chinese government is happy to just pretend that they never existed. That and Usagi would still have to deal with these things. It's better to start earlier.
We presumably have the option of getting them out of China, then saying "okay, you're physically secure now, the rest is Not Our Problem or at any rate not primarily our problem that we are sworn to do something about pronto."
 
Also, I was under the impression that only Ami and Moon were capable of long range teleportation? Well, outside of to their respective planets. Am I wrong and any of the Senshi can teleport beyond line of sight distance?
I was surprised too, but it came up at the start of Precure Pileup.

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Welcome to Usagi Quest, an odd blend between CK3 and Princess Maker that has been bouncing around in my brain for a while now. You are Usagi Tsukino, the girl who will one day rule over the entire solar system from Crystal Tokyo. Sure is a big destiny for such a regular girl. And to make it...

Apparently, any Senshi can teleport either by staring very hard at a map (and hopefully ending up in the right place) after 10-20 minutes of concentration, or can teleport to an active communicator or other beacon after about 2-3 minutes of concentration. Cooldown time is uncertain.

Sailor Mercury can teleport to arbitrary map coordinates very quickly anywhere in the world, and has quite a short cooldown time. Sailor Moon can teleport to any location in line of sight or any location she has a photograph of, but the cooldown time on continental-range hops is (for now, at least) quite significant.
 
Honestly, I couldn't see Usagi doing otherwise in the "no clientage" outcomes. The text says the Amazons will be grateful even without clientage, and seeking employment with Crystal Millennium would be a sensible course of action for them anyway.

I'm pretty sure the Amazon village is like five times larger in population than the oni village.

Usagi: "The last time I watched the anime, Android 18 was beating up Vegeta pretty bad. I, ah, haven't had time since."

[looks grumpy]
Village is one of those terms that can mean place with around a hundred people or just over a thousand. I went back to Naru's Oni adventure and while there weren't any real indicators of the size I'd still peg it at, at least 500 or 600.

[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.

Also, I was under the impression that only Ami and Moon were capable of long range teleportation? Well, outside of to their respective planets. Am I wrong and any of the Senshi can teleport beyond line of sight distance?


I'm not sure he knows what anime is, considering he'd never been to an arcade before living in Nerima.
All the Senshi can teleport if they know where they are going, though only Ami and Moon are good enough to do a quick and solo teleportation the others need more time and at least one other Senshi to help out.

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[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.

Samui: Sailor Moon, I wanted to talk to you about the Amazons you've been seen championing. Did you know that a surprising number of them have been seen in Japan? The oddest thing is that when we consulted the ports and airports, we couldn't find any record of them coming through.
Sailor Moon: Huh, weird. Must have snuck over somehow. I mean, they live in a remote village, so I'm not sure if they would even HAVE passports or traveling papers.
Samui: ...Uh-huh. Now, about how many Amazons do you think will "happen" to make their way over to Japan?
Sailor Moon: Oh, I don't know, say... 1,200 or so?
Samui: *deep sigh* And if a government worker was to be sent in order to grant the Amazons work visas or other documents that would allow them to STAY in Japan legally, where would be a good place to send them?
Sailor Moon: ...The Cat Cafe. You're taking this surprisingly well.
Samui: Lady Sei helped us bloodlessly acquire an Oni reserve; continued cooperation with the Crystal Millennium is in MCAT's best interests. We cannot involve ourselves in transporting them over here, but once they've "arrived", we have a bit more leeway.
 
So who is going to be handling all those passports?
I imagine that if we don't promise clientage, it's not our job to make it happen, at least not in the sense that the Amazons will blame us if it goes badly.

If we do promise clientage, then the Amazons will probably blame us if it goes badly, or expect us to bust them out of jail if they get in trouble, or something.

Village is one of those terms that can mean place with around a hundred people or just over a thousand. I went back to Naru's Oni adventure and while there weren't any real indicators of the size I'd still peg it at, at least 500 or 600.
Hm. Why do you say that?
 
I really don't think the senshi are ready at this point to start acting as rulers. They need at least a couple more years before they start being a government, and being a "patron" to the Amazons is very much taking on the role of a ruler. They would also be acting as independent government wise from Japan, again, a step I don't suspect them ready for
 
[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.

Any number of terrestrial nations could offer the Amazons refuge, but I don't think there's any place that would let the Amazons truly be what they want to be. After all beyond saving her people Colonge, said she wanted to find...
Someplace new where we can be the 'village of woman heroes' without our neighbors deciding that it would be fun to interrupt our lives with bombing airplanes.

I can't think of any earthbound country that would permit the Amazons to truly embody that romantic ideal of a hero, not while under the aegis of their flag. That one in the sky though, led by a reincarnated warrior princess – who seeks to right wrongs heedless of consequence, for the simple reason that, that is the right thing to do – might.
 
I really don't think the senshi are ready at this point to start acting as rulers. They need at least a couple more years before they start being a government, and being a "patron" to the Amazons is very much taking on the role of a ruler. They would also be acting as independent government wise from Japan, again, a step I don't suspect them ready for
I don't know if we need years, and I wouldn't be surprised if we could manage things if we're careful and sensible.

But we definitely need, if we're going to go ahead with clientage, to make sure we plan ahead and actually take personal responsibility for the Amazons' well-being.

Samui: Sailor Moon, I wanted to talk to you about the Amazons you've been seen championing. Did you know that a surprising number of them have been seen in Japan? The oddest thing is that when we consulted the ports and airports, we couldn't find any record of them coming through.
Sailor Moon: Huh, weird. Must have snuck over somehow. I mean, they live in a remote village, so I'm not sure if they would even HAVE passports or traveling papers.
Samui: ...Uh-huh. Now, about how many Amazons do you think will "happen" to make their way over to Japan?
Sailor Moon: Oh, I don't know, say... 1,200 or so?
Samui: *deep sigh* And if a government worker was to be sent in order to grant the Amazons work visas or other documents that would allow them to STAY in Japan legally, where would be a good place to send them?
Sailor Moon: ...The Cat Cafe. You're taking this surprisingly well.
Samui: Lady Sei helped us bloodlessly acquire an Oni reserve; continued cooperation with the Crystal Millennium is in MCAT's best interests. We cannot involve ourselves in transporting them over here, but once they've "arrived", we have a bit more leeway.
I think that if we take "clientage," we had very much better spend at least one action trying to get exactly this conversation to happen with MCAT before the Amazons actually arrive.

Our worst case scenario with clientage, I think, is that we just sort of blindly teleport them over here, either without adequate preparation or just sort of assuming things would be Taken Care Of without us.

Then they make trouble while wandering around Nerima looking for places to sleep, the Japanese government throws a shitfit and tries to arrest them, the Amazons say "take it up with our princess," the government says "DAMMIT MOON," and everyone winds up blaming us for things going badly.

I'm not saying it WILL happen because it's very much a preventable outcome in several different ways.

But it's something that CAN happen in the 'clientage' scenario. Because by going for clientage over and above 'help evacuating,' we've inserted ourselves very personally into the whole affair. We're acting, not only the personal transit facilitators, but the personal overlady over this specific group of people, responsible for upholding their welfare against all foes.

It is not a small responsibility.
 
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I think that if we take "clientage," we had very much better spend at least one action trying to get exactly this conversation to happen with MCAT before the Amazons actually arrive.
Um, this is a conversation that needs to happen regardless. Client or no we will be legally responsible for smuggling in over 1000 refugees.
 
After some consideration, I don't think we're ready and prepared to take on clients if we don't have to.

If we already had our polity up and running, or we knew we were only a turn or two away from it, that would be one thing, but we don't.

I'm not going to say we can always offer clientage to them later, but... I don't feel like we're ready for it.
 
Despite what Cologne says, Ranma can't help but think that without some kind of special reason for Shampoo to go anywhere near him, she wouldn't want to keep sticking her hands into the chaos around him. After all, even after he subtracts out the stuff Shampoo causes in the first place, Ranma's got more troubles than any normal person would want to deal with.
Despite her many, many, many faults, Shampoo is hardly a normal person.

[X] Promise to help the Amazons flee China. Offer them clientage.
 
Despite her many, many, many faults, Shampoo is hardly a normal person.
Indeed, arguably because of them.

Um, this is a conversation that needs to happen regardless. Client or no we will be legally responsible for smuggling in over 1000 refugees.
I'd say rather that if we say "no clientage," we might get away with just dropping them off without working hard to smooth things over with MCAT in advance. If nothing else, the Amazons won't personally blame us to anywhere near the same degree, and the Japanese government probably won't want to risk a permanent breach with us over it, so we have a fair chance of more or less getting away with it as long as we promise not to make a habit of it.

If we say "clientage," I'm fairly sure that we won't get away with it, and that actually making things go well may take more than one action's worth of preparations. The Amazons are big girls and won't expect us to do everything for them, but there's a lot they cannot do for themselves, or will be greatly inconvenienced by needing to do for themselves. If it's not being taken care of, they're going to assume it's because we chose not to handle it. Which says some things about the nature of the client-matron relationship at work here.
 
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We presumably have the option of getting them out of China, then saying "okay, you're physically secure now, the rest is Not Our Problem or at any rate not primarily our problem that we are sworn to do something about pronto."

Yes, but I honestly don't think Usagi wouldn't consider herself somewhat responsible even if she decides not to become their suzerain. Part of being a kind and compassionate person I guess.

I really don't think the senshi are ready at this point to start acting as rulers. They need at least a couple more years before they start being a government, and being a "patron" to the Amazons is very much taking on the role of a ruler. They would also be acting as independent government wise from Japan, again, a step I don't suspect them ready for

It's not necessarily a good time, but given the number of problems in the world and the speed at which they are developing, "good time" seems like a luxury. Although for us the development of events seems rather slow, for the participants in the events themselves everything is happening rapidly. Who can say how much things will change in just three weeks?
 
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I'd say rather that if we say "no clientage," we might get away with just dropping them off without working hard to smooth things over with MCAT in advance.
And when MCAT asks how they got here? Then why we didn't tell them? It needlessly harms our working relationship with MCAT, we have never decided not to loop them in to matters such as this.
 
The Senshi aren't equipped to carry out the day-to-day business of running a village of Amazons, true, but then they won't have to because the current leaders of the village are going to come with the rest.

They already have a relationship like this with Alice who does most of the running of the Crystal Millennium in the Senshi's stead.
 
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