It's not literally impossible, but I'm going to go with no, for the simple reason that they were protrayed to us as female. Unless you think that Boney is screwing with us I think it's a very safe bet that the daughters are female (are, to be more exact, they are worshipped as female in at least some of the places we're likely to find followers of them)
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
- Fantasy Users' Choice!
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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- Location
- Canada
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT (Fatherless) - Rite, book mine
-[X] One Overwork Action
-[X] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[X] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[X] COIN: The Gambler
-[X] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[X] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[X] Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it.
-[X] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[X] EIC: Have the Hochlander set up a shadow headquarters for the EIC in the Sunken Palace.
-[X] The many legends about the amount of books contained within and under Castle Drakenhof still haunt you. Organize an expedition to mine the ruins for books. (NEW)
-[X] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT (Fatherless) - Rite
-[X] One Overwork Action
-[X] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[X] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[X] COIN: The Gambler
-[X] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[X] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[X] Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it.
-[X] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[X] EIC: Have the Hochlander set up a shadow headquarters for the EIC in the Sunken Palace.
-[X] KAU: Decide who your library staff will consist of, and go about recruiting them.
-[X] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
A couple variations on the fatherless plan. Swapped Nut for Rite of Way, as I think there's a bigger pay-off to codifying our battle magic than to studying the artifact. Just think of the headpats we'll get if we let the empire pull ridiculous cavalry chargesthey have no right to pull off. Similarly I like book mining more than staffing, as it seems like an incredibly interesting and rewarding side-quest.
approval voting below, in case the new versions do not gain traction.
[] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless)
[] Plan Disregard WEBMAT with Book Mine
edit: changed my mind, now voting for below
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP
-[X] One Overwork Action
-[X] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[X] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[X] COIN: The Gambler
-[X] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[X] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[X] Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it.
-[X] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[X] EIC: Have the Hochlander set up a shadow headquarters for the EIC in the Sunken Palace.
-[X] The many legends about the amount of books contained within and under Castle Drakenhof still haunt you. Organize an expedition to mine the ruins for books. (NEW)
-[X] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT (Fatherless) - Rite
-[X] One Overwork Action
-[X] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[X] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[X] COIN: The Gambler
-[X] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[X] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[X] Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it.
-[X] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[X] EIC: Have the Hochlander set up a shadow headquarters for the EIC in the Sunken Palace.
-[X] KAU: Decide who your library staff will consist of, and go about recruiting them.
-[X] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
A couple variations on the fatherless plan. Swapped Nut for Rite of Way, as I think there's a bigger pay-off to codifying our battle magic than to studying the artifact. Just think of the headpats we'll get if we let the empire pull ridiculous cavalry chargesthey have no right to pull off. Similarly I like book mining more than staffing, as it seems like an incredibly interesting and rewarding side-quest.
approval voting below, in case the new versions do not gain traction.
[] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless)
[] Plan Disregard WEBMAT with Book Mine
edit: changed my mind, now voting for below
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP
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- Location
- Australia
I'm ok approaching the Halethans because we haven't done so yet, so whether or not Haletha is in fact Ranald's daughter, the action's fine. Meanwhile, we know Bretonnia's response to a waystone invitation. If the Lady isn't Ranald's daughter, then we've properly fucked up and will have made it harder for ourselves to get their aid later, on top of wasting on an action we knew would fail if Father didn't trigger.
- Location
- Earth
How would it be fucking up if the Lady isn't a daughter? It's explicitly said at the wedding that discussions there are simply informal groundwork for future official agreements. In the case they aren't willing to operate on credit, officially sealing the deal is still progress.
- Location
- Australia
First meeting: To get our aid, help us with the Iron Orcs or show results
Second meeting: To get our aid, help us with the Iron Orcs or show results
Third meeting: Why are you bothering us again. You know what you need to do to get our aid
Unless you're willing to have Mathilde accept going on Couronne's side quest if Father doesn't work out, then all we'll have done is make a fool out of ourselves with the action.
- Location
- Earth
The first meeting was while we were still choosing a host location, the second was an informal discussion to feel out how things are now that circumstances have changed, and the third would be agreeing to make a deal based on the information presented in the second meeting, under more official auspices. And yes, I was definitely willing to poke the Iron Orcs anyway.
- Location
- Australia
Can we spend CF to hire magisters to look at these artefacts for us? Our backlog is endless and I'd do anything to get these out of the way without spending AP.
We'd have to drop Branulhune or AV, and if we're fighting Iron Orcs, it'd be AV we drop. I would honestly prefer to fight Iron Orcs to bring in Couronne over the AV research, but the people who want to do AV have been waiting a long time and I really don't want them to wait anymore.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless)
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT (Fatherless) - Rite
[X] Foundational Farms and Enchanting
[X] Plan: No Recruitment with Arcane (Marks and Khazalid)
[X] All AV Research
[X] Laying Foundations with Sword Mastery
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless) (AV Enchantment) (Trade)
[X] Plan Don't Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire More AP (Fatherless)
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT (Fatherless) - Rite
[X] Foundational Farms and Enchanting
[X] Plan: No Recruitment with Arcane (Marks and Khazalid)
[X] All AV Research
[X] Laying Foundations with Sword Mastery
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless) (AV Enchantment) (Trade)
[X] Plan Don't Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire More AP (Fatherless)
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- Location
- Earth
I'm also fine with dropping AV, myself. I get that some people are really into it, but it's a super long chain better suited for research sabbaticals than having to constantly compete with quicker research subjects and our official long-term project.
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- Location
- California
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP
The whole point of a quest like this is that its an opportunity cost game: doing stuff without having to manage AP defeats the whole system of play.
- Location
- Australia
I wouldn't call it super long. 3-5 more actions (depending on if we subject it to power stone creation methods, which we need an AP to learn) and then it's officially done and we can write the book on it.
If spending CF to get someone else to study it isn't possible, then I'd prefer to give it away for rep or simply sell it. Our backlog is too big and the rep/gold would be better than something we want to do but won't actually ever get around to doing. (Ghyran Nut excepted.)
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- Location
- Earth
That's just the current available options. Who knows what kinds of follow-ups might appear after we do some of them?
... that's just staying 'get rid of the ones I'm (you) not interested in.
not at I have a house in this race, don't even care to look at that list until AV, Spellbook and sword are done.
Yes-yes, sneak-tunneling into Dead-Thing hoard very obvious from surface. No-thing could ever get to it from the top-level without being seen.
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP, AV Enchantment
AV Enchantment sounds really cool.
- Location
- Earth
Edit: In my defense, I am very sleepy and completely misread your comment.
We can't sell for gold because of the Vow of Poverty. I am going to head off now.
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- Location
- Earth
Yeah, I personally find the other artifacts to also be interesting, and there's no way I'm agreeing to giving them out for favors which we can also get from papers, creating a social follow-up backlog even more clogged in action hell and less interesting. The Skaven stuff had the incentive of it being highly relevant research and the Golds offering us a boon greater than regular CF in exchange. This doesn't.
- Location
- Australia
Out of the artefacts we'll never study, I imagine there are other people who'd prefer rep/gold over letting them eternally gather dust in Mathilde's vault.
Also nitpick, but I am actually interested in the Lustria/Southlands books, but I don't see people voting to look at them and we can't put them in our library until we look at them, so best to get rid of them.
Couple things. Firstly, the Asur explorer's books on Lustria/the Southlands are non-magical, so we wouldn't be violating the Articles there. (Fair enough on selling the magical items to the Colleges though.) Secondly, I wasn't suggesting converting the artefacts to favour, I was suggesting give them away to gain Reputation. It'd be Rep gain without CF gain similar to when we commissioned the Towers of Calamity for the Colleges.
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- Location
- Pittsburgh PA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan: No Recruitment
- Location
- Utrecht
Does that plan use the Coin?
FlyingScanian
Tea Addict
- Location
- Land of Eternal Night
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP
Well, I said I would
Well, I said I would
No. This feels like a roundabout relitigation of the original vote to acquire those objects in the first place. Even if you personally are not interested in investigating them, the thread as a whole decided they were. If it's not about the items themselves and instead about the abstract existence of a backlog at all, that does not seem like a rational basis for action, because the backlog is always going to be there and so you could use the same justification to get rid of literally anything. There will always be new dangers to face and mysteries to solve, and throwing a few swords in the bin won't change that.
dinomannitro6
all your gender is belong to us
- Location
- The Land Where The Sunflowers Bloom
Wait are the kurgan weapons swords? Just realized I always pictured them as axes