I don't trust C* with a vaccine for our population. Not one bit.
Like I said that was the part that took me the most time to figure out but I trust our QM he's a conniving slippery bastard but he's never lied about options and besides I have a gut feeling that picking any of the other options will remove a research slot for atleast this turn.
Do you intend to keep the Khan a significant factor on Caliban in the long run? To be honest, I don't really see why we're messing around with any of the local warlords on either Caliban or New Oslo. It seems like a waste of AP.

Just get to work colonizing the planets (which are, after all, almost entirely empty), and offer living conditions Khan, Pact, or feudal nobles simply can't match. Incite their people to vote with their feet. They can then either make trouble (giving us a casus belli to stomp them flat), or sell out to us, or fade into irrelevancy until one of their descendants sells out to us.
So big thing that surrounds Caliban is it's a clusterfuck but so far the Pact is the worse of the two. As for New Olso I wanted to kinda make so an insult would get a response and I had a gut feeling about the planet that if we didn't handle it in a certain way it would turn into a new Caliban situation. This is going to be something that happens often I have a gut feeling and so far my gut hasn't been wrong it's vague but hasn't been wrong.
It's also extremely vulnerable to disruption, be it by enemy action or accident. Furthermore, we have living space aplenty, both on Charybdis and in general - even in it's current state, there ought to be areas of Charybdis that are safe for settlement where we can fit tens of millions of people yet.
Oh yes there is other places on Charybdis but they are not as easy to get to or Ideal and doesn't change the fact that super storms such as the 3 or so Cat 5 hypercanes form and that similar intense storms could form over land.
The key to winning such a war is naval and areospace superiority. Not saying that we shouldn't build a few battlemech battalions, but they shouldn't be our priority. You may have a point about the carriers.
true but naval and Aerospace can capture the ground Also the mech battalions are because we are sorely out gunned by other nations on that front.
I'm of the opinion that the FTL coms connection should be reserved solely for ORDI members.
I don't think we should attempt to expand any further corewards. It's more trouble than it's worth, and Rockwellawan has to high a population to (who are also said to be "fiercely independet") to be easily absorbed into the Helghan Republic anyway.
Well for one ORDI is currently only members of the Periphery States so Rockwellawan could join at a later date if they are not absorbed. But the Helgan Republic will at the moment have to move coreworld for awhile if only to make things easier for the QM, get access to the IS market and for the HR to truly grow rapidly as we gain the population and resources of planets.
Yet more defensive commitments. I'd rather not.

This is in general something we should pay more attention to. If we continue like we have been, we risk becoming overstretched. Caliban and New Oslo are a necessity, since they're both within 30 lightyears of Helghan, but apart from that I really think we ought to stop seizing yet more territory.
One the QM has made it clear that Tiverton is basically a freebie for us primarily because Bordergore secondly those commitment is part of why i want to stand up a second army. As for territory resources and people means we can stand up a larger force and more easily fulfil those commitments in the first place. Also at a certain point it gets easier to not be overstretched because are territory is so large that we can focus less on the interior as we push more forces to the bolster our borders.
 
Alright, I'm convinced with regards to Tiverton. At least in part because I wasn't actually sure we're it was, since it wasn't in the Map of the Rimward Periphery - 3033. I thought it was much further coreward.

It's is in the Map of the Rimward Periphery - 3028 , however, and you're right, that is some ugly bordergore. However, I can't agree when it comes to the rest. More on that when I have time.


@Brogatar, unless you object, I will change the plan so we take over Tiverton in place of contacting McEvan's sacrifice.
 
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[X] Plan Conference Call against the World.

-International Aid
--[X] Accept offers of assistance from ORDI nations (Pyrric Rabies Vaccine costs 0.1 Research points)/Prototype Gauss Rifle [0.4/--]

-Caliban:
--[X] Weaken Economy (Pact) [Easy]: By utilizing agents seeded throughout Caliban, we can weaken the economies of target by debasing their currencies with forgeries.

-New Oslo
--[X] Sell Weapons to Lord Morgenson's rivals: By selling to his rivals, we can counterbalance the sale of weapons to Lord Morgenson.

-General:
--[X] Write In: Found State Sponsored Terraforming Corporation: The Republic has had access to Terraforming technologies and mega construction for some time now, but has been unable to do anything with it do to other issues requiring its attention. By founding a corporation focused on meeting this local, and possibly foreign, market the Republic can focus on other things while still reaping the benefits of said technology.
--[X] Target Smuggler Network: We cannot allow Helghan military equipment to be stolen and sold to the highest bidder by criminals. As such, we should make the destruction of this network a priority. [Progress: 3/???]
--[X] Write In: Invite all ORDI members to a 2nd ORDI Conference: a great deal has happened in the last 6 years since the ORDI was founded, having a formal meeting where defense goals can be discussed, coordination hammered out, intelligence shared, and Military surplus traded/sold in bulk would be more useful than trying to do it with each nation individually.

-Military:
--[X] Construct a Damascus-Class Carrier Squadron: Task your shipyards with constructing a squadron of Damascus-Class Carriers. x2
--[X] Construct two Battlemech Battalions: Task Zulim Taw with constructing two battalions worth of mechs.

-Political:
--[X] Colonize Charybdis [Progress: 461,342/500,000] [Action Point Locked Until Completed
--[X] Annex Tiverton (-5 influence): By deploying numerous civil, military, and diplomatic resources, the Republic should be able to annex the system of Tiverton with minimal protest from our neighbours. [Progress: 0/2 turns] [Action Point Locked Until Completed]
--[X] Contact Detroit, and the RazorBack Company if possible, and offer support, military equipment/training etc, at a good price.


-[X] Research
--[X] DHS [5.96/6]
--[X] Advanced Petrusite Theory [5.8/6]
--[X] Petrusite Space Weaponry [2/5]
--[X] Standard Power Armor [1.95/6]
--[X] Selective Defoliation [1.3/2]
--[X] Vaccine/Prototype Gauss Rifle [0.4/--]


-Requisition
--[
X] Burst-Pattern Launchers: The product of a pair of machinists who have since turned to producing units for sale to Periphery militias under the Alter Stiefel label, a Burst Launcher is designed around the usefulness of high powered strikes with a minimum of tonnage invested
--[X] HDC 'Ursus' Squad Cannon: Developed by the Helghan Defence Corporation out of Bloemfontein, the Ursus Squad Cannon is a gyro-stabilised semi-automatic recoilless-rifle designed specifically for use by power armour equipped soldiers. Firing a 60mm shell at 400m/s, the Ursus substantially increases the already considerable AT firepower of power armour troopers.

-Design
--[X] Design write-in: Lawbringer: Marshal Dropship
 
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So we keep infiltrating the CM and see if they are responsible for the attack. If not, then I don't how we are going to try and prevent further Com*/unknown infiltrators.

In case it turns out to be true, how is ORDI going to take them? It's located in the Inner Sphere, that means higher techs levels, military power and other things compared to the Periphery. On the other hand, they are most likely a rump state of the Capelans trying to desperately take back and absorb the rest of the unconquered Confederation territory, hence the sudden hiring of large numbers of mercs.
 
You should keep in mind that a lack of visible action towards the Celestial Mandate will likely result in some very mad Helghan Citizens.

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It doesn't necessarily have to be declaring war on them or even massively aggressive, but people are capital-M Mad about the attack.
 
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You should keep in mind that a lack of visible action towards the Celestial Mandate will likely result in some very mad Helghan Citizens.
And we're not sure if they were responsible for the attack. For all we know, it could be Comstar or someone else trying to stir up tensions between Helghan and the CM. We could apply pressure to them and demand answers.
 
You should keep in mind that a lack of visible action towards the Celestial Mandate will likely result in some very mad Helghan Citizens.

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It doesn't necessarily have to be declaring war on them or even massively aggressive, but people are capital-M Mad about the attack.
I see...

Would the following be considered sufficiently visible action (for now)?

[X] Open Diplomatic Relations with the Celestial Mandate.
-[X] Go public with the evidence we have, and demand answers.

@Brogatar , @Captain Hunt ,
It seems we will have to include the above action, or some other action concerning the Celestial Mandate in the plan. I intend to delay the ASF factory in order to do so. Is that alright with you?
 
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Step up the exercises in response, respond to their rattling sabers with our own but leave them room to back down.
 
I see...

Would the following be considered sufficiently visible action (for now)?

[X] Open Diplomatic Relations with the Celestial Mandate.
-[X] Go public with the evidence we have, and demand answers.

@Brogatar , @Captain Hunt ,
It seems we will have to include the above action, or some other action concerning the Celestial Mandate in the plan. I intend to delay the ASF factory in order to do so. Is that alright with you?
Probably, yeah.
How would a massive defense conference go over with the public?
Probably pretty well, tbh.
And we're not sure if they were responsible for the attack. For all we know, it could be Comstar or someone else trying to stir up tensions between Helghan and the CM. We could apply pressure to them and demand answers.
There's no ironclad evidence, no.
 
Okay for the Virus I think it's a no brainer we get the vacine for free so that we don't lose any research that took me the most time to figure out which would be best.
Problem is that one of the independent organizations is Comstar. I know that their just trying to make themselves look good to our people but how do I know their not gonna try anything fishy, sorry about the paranoia but to me anything that Comstar does is SUS and should be treated with a grain of salt.
 
Wargames are good Advent but we need to probably look at getting more war materials into the Reaches Armed Forces hands.
We have given them alot already and more importantly they have the rest of Royal Cache hidden. They are nowhere as weak as they are pretending to be. We also already have a Division of troops along their border that has been training and growing their local forces for years.
i dont really know the strenght of the mandate or other powers in our area,so i was based on the comparizons between our state and inner sphere forces,wich came down to ''cant sustain war for long with them even if there is certain technological advantages on niche areas''
The Mandate has next to no military aside from the Big Mac. Mechs are not the end all be all. And yes we can sustain a war dude. Unlike all the other powers our logistics aren't shot to shit or reliant on extremely limited jumpships. We have 900,000 people underarms in the ground forces alone. Of which 300,000 are direct combat troops. We have more Infantry, more Aerospace assets, and more AFV than anyone outside the Great Houses.
I am pretty sure the Taurian Armed Forces is still bigger than ours. For one they have 14 regiments of Mechs at this point. I haven't been able to find numbers for this time period for Infantry or armor but i am pretty sure they have more infantry than us, if only focused on garrison work, and some number of armored vehicles. The big advantage we have over them is Naval and Aerospace assets, were are the only ones creating anything remotely like warships, and are the only ones in the periphery that is making aerospace fighters.
Our formations are all bigger than any BT faction in everything but mechs. And the mechs don't matter because they are an ancillary unit not the main force of anything.
Uh, no. The Outworlds Alliance is the largest maker of ASFs in the Periphery. And the Taurians licensed the Seydlitz design from the Lyrans for manufacture within their borders.
The OWA has the best pilots not the biggest manufacturer. Their industry is more dilapidated than anyone not a pirate realm.
We have a sizable facility, especially for the limited manufacturing present in the Periphery, but we are not in the same realm as Hesperus. What we do have is sufficient naval power ready to deploy for an operation seize jumpships and cut down their dropship fleet.
No dude we have a sizable industry for any world in the IS. We are a fully industrialized, high tech, high standard power. Helghan alone is on par with greatest industrial world in the IS. Do you really think we could support a army of 17 million, warship and dropship construction, a civilian shipping industry, MAWLRs, high level research, and mega engineering projects if we didn't have the industrial might to match it?
And we have 1 battalion of mechs. 1/30th or so of the number the Taurians have. We don't have any information on the ratio of Taurian Mech to other Regiments, but what little information we do have would give them a military roughly 3 times our size, based on the one Great House who actually did get a "regiments other than mechs" number.
Mechs don't matter when we outnumber those mechs at better than 10 to 1 odds. Our army is about the same size as what SLDF during the Periphery Uprising before the Amaris Civil War started. And that was against much stronger forces than what is currently available. Not to mention that we can raise 300,000 more troops 53 times before we reach the limit of what we can support.
Wait, we only have one battalion of mechs across 3 Army groups? Man, I must have glazed over that piece of information. Where was this?
The mechs are not an important part of our military. And we have been building new mechs by "hand" before we built the factory to speed it up. We have one active Battalion. The rest of our mechs our used for training more pilots.
 
Mechs don't matter when we outnumber those mechs at better than 10 to 1 odds. Our army is about the same size as what SLDF during the Periphery Uprising before the Amaris Civil War started. And that was against much stronger forces than what is currently available. Not to mention that we can raise 300,000 more troops 53 times before we reach the limit of what we can support.

Maybe, but the loses for doing that would probably be horrendous given its infantry (even PAL infantry) with armor/aero support vs mechs, but we don't have the sheer volume of people to pull from to replace losses as we take losses during war time in comparison to what a great house can do if it wanted to, we are still only like 3 planets with one making up the majority of our population. We can only replace significant losses so many times before it starts becoming backbreaking to our economy and are warfighting strategy. This is technically true for our adversaries, but they typically don't concentrate forces like we do so we cannot deal a decisive blow to them like they technically could do to us, war is unpredictable it can happen, if we get unlucky. Conversely our forces are extremely vulnerable to supply line raids and attrition due to their extreme size and almost certainly more unwieldly compared to smaller forces for the same reason. This concentration of force also runs into the problem of occupying held territory during war, given the sheer scale of the IS factions.

My point being is that while we are certainly terrifying to the Perpheriary states, we are not undefeatable and will have trouble fighting a Great House at best.
 
Tiverton is non negotiable for me. I do like the idea of having an ORDI conference though, It's been a while.

Absolutely true, and ORDI could probably take them. But we shouldn't go to war with the Mandate either, if we can avoid it. There is simply nothing to be gained there.
Not technically true, if they ORDI nations Annex the celestial mandate, it not only provides more of a buffer for us, but since we're so far away we can't effectively take any planets, we'd be able to ask for other concessions outside of the Mandate possessions, such as the go ahead to grow up between Aurigans and Canopians without causing any major border friction or political resistance.
 
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