A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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There should be quite a few people throughout the Imperium willing to donate already actually. I'll have to wait for the next system to see how tyo model it.
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Given the prevalence of Leshys and Treants and the overal ascendance of the Old Gods in the Imperium we should totally see people trying to get their final resting place in the Fungus Forge in hopes of joining the greendream or something.
Not only that, but it bears keeping in mind that the North is now part of the realm. There are a lot of Old God worshipers there and many of them would be more than fine giving their bodies to the Old Gods to aid them.
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Them and the Free Folk we're getting evacuated.
We really need to ramp up that weirwood evacuation at some point. It'd be very annoying if it turns out as the Others kill more trees the Old Gods get weaker.
Crake
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The problem with expanding tree sacrifice to capital punishments is that like anything, it makes it desirable to focus more on the effect than the cause. If you sentence someone to death, that = a trickle of blood to stem back the horrors. Guilt or innocence are just that much less important when you consider he's PROBABLY guilty just given precedents for these cases, so why be careful and be so fastidious when going over the evidence or looking too closely at the motives of the parties involved or their background or circumstances?
It's like the problem of creating a market need for blood or HD. Most people have enough sense not to do something that's going to result in them being punished. That's why punishments exist. But corruption is a thing that allows people to skirt lines around rules and it would absolutely exist to give a legal pretext for illicit activity if the market for that activity existed. That can be rooted out, but it's a thing that will keep popping back up so long as the market is there.
I'd rather just eliminate the root cause for this behavior instead of periodically cracking down on it.
Edit: It's one thing if it's smuggling, or other black market activity, and it's even another thing if the crime carries no element of violence, coercion or similar harm to other parties caught up in it. These types of criminals will make sure their activities don't spill out of control, or they face gaining the ire of the law who would be made to look bad if it does.
But whenever someone can get up on a soap box and talk about rampant violence, slavery, etc. going on under our noses, that's a problem.
It's like the problem of creating a market need for blood or HD. Most people have enough sense not to do something that's going to result in them being punished. That's why punishments exist. But corruption is a thing that allows people to skirt lines around rules and it would absolutely exist to give a legal pretext for illicit activity if the market for that activity existed. That can be rooted out, but it's a thing that will keep popping back up so long as the market is there.
I'd rather just eliminate the root cause for this behavior instead of periodically cracking down on it.
Edit: It's one thing if it's smuggling, or other black market activity, and it's even another thing if the crime carries no element of violence, coercion or similar harm to other parties caught up in it. These types of criminals will make sure their activities don't spill out of control, or they face gaining the ire of the law who would be made to look bad if it does.
But whenever someone can get up on a soap box and talk about rampant violence, slavery, etc. going on under our noses, that's a problem.
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MagnificentMind
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I mean, we are working on normalizing these things. One of the parts of establishing formal a Chief Fleshcrafter and a Chief Necrocrafter was to clear up the legal framework and in this I've introduced the notion of the body being the property of the person born into it. Which also means it's theirs to decide the final fate of or to sell off.
So I was expecting this to be abstracted away in it's entirety, as actual bodies would just be one more form of reagent we pay for and pour into the forges.
So I was expecting this to be abstracted away in it's entirety, as actual bodies would just be one more form of reagent we pay for and pour into the forges.
[X] Parion Dyodrys
Jack vile Ripper
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Question: "Much like how a High Justice cannot hold the office of Minister of Justice/Scholarum cannot hold the office of Minister of Magic. Does the same clause works for Chief Fleshcrafter and Chief Necrocrafter?
We know that Qyburn hold unquestioned authority (mainly due to how no one is able to be as skilled as he is) over the research of Necrocrafting but he's also proficient enough that he also dabbles in Fleshforging as well. Does this mean that technically he could hold both office? Or will we just stamp someone in the Greendream as a Chief Fleshforging, when in reality it's Qyburn that runs the show in Gogossos.
Not because of intra-fleshforger politics or anything, but because he is that good.
OK, this looks really settled. Vote closed.
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Yeah. That rule applies to all high offices.
Vee is the one who got appointed as the chief Fleshcrafter, since that's more or less the role she has already been serving in.
Edit: Also, Qyburn being appointed as the chief Necrocrafter is only a temporary solution. The man has just about zero interest in regulating and assessing the inadequacies of others.
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Jack vile Ripper
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...would you believe me that I honestly forgot that Vee exist for a moment there?
Fuck. Of course. If it's some obscure characters that has little interaction with us, like Saenena, Urak, or fucking Ramsay of all people, I'd remember. But if it's the frakkin' same person that has been with us, thick and thin, since day one, I soon forgot about them.
Truly marvelous, me.
Jack vile Ripper
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Yup. Frakkin' Azema of all people has more screen-time than her. And we've only recruited her post-Mantarys.
...speaking of Mantarys, I wonder how's the Cat doing?
...speaking of Mantarys, I wonder how's the Cat doing?
Goldfish
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I think Vee would rather go on an expedition to Sothoryos. It has the best Dinosaurs.
Jack vile Ripper
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At the end of the Expedition, Vee returns decked in
Viserys: "...well you certainly came back with a bang."
Vee, grinning whilst covered in dried blood: "Oh, were it the end of it. Do you have any idea how hard it is to punt down an Undead Lizard God hellbent on enslaving the world?"
Viserys: "I might know a thing or two. You could tell the story over a hot chocolate. You and your..."
Vee: "Oh, them? They just followed me here. Dunno why, dunno how. They kept calling me 'Sotek' whenever I ask. Wonder who that is."
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That's unlikely to change, what with, you know, Viserys now being a ruler.
Update in beta.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Honestly, she might either train up her replacement ASAP in order to go back to being a hermit, or she might actually... you know... become interested in politics... considering a portion of her job outside of regulation of Fleshcraft would be... politics.
It depends on how @DragonParadox writes her at the end of the day.
From a "well, but previous characterization..." standpoint it makes sense that Vee doesn't want someone she doesn't trust, nor who doesn't possess the skill or wisdom, to have regulatory oversight for something that could cause ecological disasters, if that is indeed her suspicion of what went on when it wasn't carefully monitored back in the past.
So that desire could, indeed, cause character growth... and make her more visible in updates about politics. Because she's suddenly been gaining new opinions from doing related research, or forming them as other factors interfere with her baliwick.
Just saying, it's not bad writing for characters to change... but I guess writing her out of the story by logical inference isn't unreasonable either.
I could not really see Vee interested in politics for the sake of politics, but she might grow interested in people. You dragged Vee out of being a hermit long ago and that path is well behind her unless some tragedy should befall her of or you. She is going to be visible at court and in council especially now that Bloodraven is around. He is in many ways the perfect Vee translator, a consummate politician who slept long in the Grenedream. He is not going to want someone like her to be lost to the realm