Remove ads

A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Reader mode
Bah, all these boring choices!

[X] Retroactively, you've been upgrading it with a capability of compressing to a humanoid form and updating it with war strategies from five Planes of Existence.
-[X] The Harbinger
 
DragonParadox said:
The only ones who might be bitter with the naming are the Tyrells, and I do not think their thoughts weigh too heavily in the scales of choice for the moment."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I don't know, the fact that it'd irritate the Tyrells is a point in favor of appointing him in my opinion. :V
egoo said:
...We need a way to reliably download bureocracy as a skill in people's minds.

Psychic Chirurgery might be the answer, but it is too limited by spell-level, XP cost, and squishy mortals flailing about, screaming about "immoral practices" and "basic sentient rights".
Bah!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Solving this sort of issue was what I was getting at with that post earlier. If we assigned inexperienced ministers secretaries with the relevant skills willing to use Share Talents with them, then give them each a Mask of a Thousand Tomes and an item of Visualization of the Mind they'll have a +7 to +17 bonus to the relevant actions. That's probably good enough to hold them over until they pick up the skills on their own.
 
[X] Randyll Tarly

It'll be interesting to see how this affects how he views magic and those who wield it when it becomes just another tool to him.
 
Azel said:
For one, the Scholarium could spool up spurious investigations into their use of magic. Their innate abilities are still magic after all.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
They can, once or maybe twice, but this is a pretty high level of goverment, it will have our personal attention to some degree.
Don't you think after a few false claims that one of our ministers is abusing his SLAs (for example Charm Person) we'd certainly take a close look at who is making those accusations.

At that level of goverment corruption is of course not impossible, but it will be under great scrutiny from above and below.

Azel said:
There's also the risk of the MoM being seen as prejudiced in favor of the Scholarium or one group of magical creatures or another.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That is indeed an issue, but one nearly unavoidable.
Even if we put some regular guy in charge, he could be predjudiced, like having a good relation with Fey, or having particular misstrust of fallen Celestials, or whatever.
It's hard to get an utterly neutral candidate whithout choosing someone who is also so far removed from the topic of magical creatures that he'd make a bad choice anyway.
 
Artemis1992 said:
They can, once or maybe twice, but this is a pretty high level of goverment, it will have our personal attention to some degree.
Don't you think after a few false claims that one of our ministers is abusing his SLAs (for example Charm Person) we'd certainly take a close look at who is making those accusations.

At that level of goverment corruption is of course not impossible, but it will be under great scrutiny from above and below.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I know, but this is one of those ugly scandals I'd rather avoid if possible.
 
Vote closed. Update in beta.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 11, 2021 at 10:29 AM, finished with 56 posts and 26 votes.
Click to expand...
 
Remove ads
Part MMMDCCLI: To Battle Pledged
  • Threadmarks
    • To Battle Pledged ​

    Tenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

    The Lord of Horn Hill is your first true political appointment, not that you doubt the man's skills in logistics as much as in command during the war, but the proverbial feather that tipped the scales was the fact that he would be the first Minister of old Westerosi blood if not high titles in your council of ministers. Though as with most things that involve politics, there is a bit of mummery to play. If Randyll Tarly is to be Minister of War then he cannot be Count, and if he cannot be Count another of his line must rule in his stead, and no matter how high Samwell should climb in the esteem of the Scholarum he does not live up to his father's expectations.

    It shall have to be Dickon, the youngest child, a boy not yet seven, and after him Randyll's daughter's children so long as they take the Tarly name, and after them Samwell and any children he may some day sire. Judging from the way his father says the last you suspect the Lord of Horn Hill doubts his son shall ever show enough 'manhood' to even father a child. You can only thank good fortune and foresight both for keeping the boy out of these talks. He would have likely cried yet more bitterly for it than the loss of his birthright... well, not his birthright, truly more the love of his father which you are beginning to suspect he never had.

    The best you can do is put out the story that Lord Tarly is naming his youngest heir upon his abdication in expectation of Samwell rising high in the Scholarum, where like his father in his new ministerial position he would not be able to hold both administrative and landed titles. How much the tale is believed depends strictly on how much one knows the Lord of Horn Hill, which is to say most of the realm knows nothing though many Reacher Lords may suspect the truth. Hopefully by the combined efforts of your mother and Tyene working within the court and Dany working outside it you can keep the boy's reputation from being too stained by his father's deed, though you have little doubt that he will thank you in the end. It would have been a waste of a brilliant mind to be left rusticating where he could be learning or traveling the world.

    There is one other question that naturally arises from the whole affair—how far does abdication go? The law is clear that one cannot hold two posts at once, but can a person ineligible for a position still serve as a vessel for their heirs to hold it? On the one hand that could lead to some inclination for corruption and divided loyalty as part of a dynasty. On the other it is, as Malarys puts it, 'a trifling small bone to toss at the lords and princes' and likely to incline those who would otherwise avoid Imperial Service to take it up.

    What do you decide?

    [] Allow titles to be transferred to the children of ineligible dynasty members (ex: any future children Randyll Tarly may have)

    [] Do not allow any titles to be passed to the children of ineligible dynasty members

    OOC: Short bridge update because I need a vote on this. I thought about doing a Samwell interlude in place of this, but that would have come out rather incoherent right now, even he does not know how he feels.
     
    Last edited:
  • Threadmarks
    • DragonParadox said:
    To Battle Pledged ​

    Tenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

    The lord of Horn Hill makes your first true political appointment, not that you doubt the man's skills in logistics as much as in command during the war, but the proverbial feather that tipped the scales was the fact that he would be the first Minister of old Westerosi blood, if not high titles in your council of ministers. Though as with most things that involve politics, there is a bit of mummery to play. If Randyll Tarly is to be Minister of War then he cannot be Duke, and if he cannot be Duke, another of his line must rule in his stead. And no matter how high Samwell should climb in the esteem of the Scholarum, he does not live up to his father's expectations.

    It shall have to be Dickon, the youngest child, a boy not yet seven, and after him his sister's children, so long as they take the Tarly name, and after them Samwell and any children he may some day sire. Judging from the way his father says the last, you suspect the Lord of Horn Hill doubts his son shall ever show enough 'manhood' to even father a child. You can only thank good fortune and foresight both for keeping the boy out of these talks. He would have likely cried yet more bitterly for it than the loss of his birthright... well, not his birthright, truly more the love of his father which you are beginning to suspect he never had.

    The best you can do is put out the story that Lord Tarly is naming his youngest heir upon his abdication in expectation of Samwell rising high in the Scholarum, where like his father in his new Ministerial position, he would not be able to hold both administrative and landed titles. How much the tale is believed depends strictly on how well one knows the Lord of Horn Hill, which is to say most of the Realm knows nothing though many Reacher Lords suspect the truth. Hopefully, by the combined efforts of your mother and Tyene working within the court and Dany working outside it, you can keep the boy's reputation from being too stained by his father's deed, though you have little doubt that he will thank you in the end. It would have been a waste of a brilliant mind to be left rusticating when he could be learning or traveling the world.

    There is one other question that naturally arises from the whole affair—how far does abdication go? The law is clear that one cannot hold two posts at once, but can a person ineligible for a position still serve as a vessel for their heirs to hold it? On the one hand, that could lead to some inclination for corruption and divided loyalty as part of a dynasty on the other it is, as Malarys puts it, 'a trifling small bone to toss at the lords and princes', and likely to incline those who would otherwise avoid Imperial Service to take it up.

    What do you decide?

    [] Allow titles to be transferred to the children of ineligible dynasty members (ex: any future children Randyll Tarly may have)

    [] Do not allow any titles to be passed to the children of ineligible dynasty members

    OOC: Short bridge update because I need a vote on this. I thought about doing a Samwell interlude in place of this, but that would have come out rather incoherent right now, even he does not know how he feels.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Made a few additional edits to the chapter, DP.
     
    [X] Do not allow any titles to be passed to the children of ineligible dynasty members

    I just don't like any lords and would like then to fuck off and be irrelevant.
     
    [X] Abdication means that the person will be legally considered dead for the purpose of inheritance of the title in question. What that means has to be determined by the title holder when setting succession law.
     
    Last edited:
    [X] Allow titles to be transferred to the children of ineligible dynasty members (ex: any future children Randyll Tarly may have)

    Acolyte said:
    I just don't like any lords and would like then to fuck off and be irrelevant.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    They can still be made irrevelant, look at the British royale family, does anyone cares about them aside from some last loyalists ? No the only member people still somewhat respect is Queen Elizabeth and it's more for what she lived through. A century or two and nobody will care about their titles.
     
    Reader mode
    You must login or register to reply here.
    Remove ads
    Back
    Top