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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
[X] Ministers of Taxation, Trade and Public Works

Those three have some decent overlap in what would make people useful for them, so I think they would be best handled together.

Afterwards, I'd say:
[] Ministers of Diplomacy, Justice and Information
[] Ministers of Administration, Education and Magic
[] Minister of War and the 4 remaining Marshall posts
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I have a feeling that the Imperial Revenue Service is going to have a disproportionate number of the Imperator's Chosen among their ranks compared most other arms of the government.

In a world of magic and monsters, it will be they who introduce the truism that, whatever else may happen, Death and Taxes are inevitable.

[X] Ministers of Taxation, Trade and Public Works
 
[X] Azel

Considering that most Westerosi nobles see magic as the work of the devil or whatever their equivalent of it is, or simply untrustworthy and to be keep out of sight Valaena's mom is certainly taking it well
 
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Trevor23 said:
[X] Azel

Considering that most Westerosi nobles see magic as the work of the devil or whatever their equivalent of it is, or simply untrustworthy and to be keep out of sight Valaena's mom is certainly taking it well
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Only a few fanatics still hold that view of magic. It has been years and magic has proven its worth time and again and you are not going to find those fanatics in one of the first Loyalist Crownlander Houses. That said there is a distance between 'magic can be used for good' and 'clothes are glamor and shape is by whim defined'.
 
Valaena's Mom is a character archetype this story sorely needed, and I'm happy that she exists. This Westerosi Lady isn't confused and terrified by magic anymore, but she's still recognizable as herself and I appreciate it.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Valaena's Mom is a character archetype this story sorely needed, and I'm happy that she exists. This Westerosi Lady isn't confused and terrified by magic anymore, but she's still recognizable as herself and I appreciate it.
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Give it a few more years and they'll even start to look down on lesser mages rather than lumping them all under one banner.

Westerosi Lady: <sniff!> "The poor dear, I heard the heir is merely an Adept, while her youngest daughter is already a Sorcerer of the third circle. You know what they say about the blood breeding true..."

Westerosi Lady #2: <titter> "At least he isn't limited to working magic through crafting, like a commoner! Patricia was positively inconsolable when the news came about her favorite's...deficiency."
 
Goldfish said:
Give it a few more years and they'll even start to look down on lesser mages rather than lumping them all under one banner.

Westerosi Lady: <sniff!> "The poor dear, I heard the heir is merely an Adept, while her youngest daughter is already a Sorcerer of the third circle. You know what they say about the blood breeding true..."

Westerosi Lady #2: <titter> "At least he isn't limited to working magic through crafting, like a commoner! Patricia was positively inconsolable when the news came about her favorite's...deficiency."
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Meanwhile...

Battle Mage: "I can't wait for my first assignment. I hear the Imperator was handing out accolades during the last graduation--there he is!"

Artificer: "I mean, maybe you should temper your expectations..."

Battle Mage: "Hush now, it's starting!"

...

Viserys: "Long has been the road to this day, but since then you have accomplished much and will do more on your path to mastery of your power and art. For the battle mages in the audience, there will be many battles ahead, grueling environmental conditions, sometimes with only regular artifice between you and rains of acid, fields of fire and howling winds. You'll face mighty foes and terrifying creatures, and while well compensated, sometimes an early retirement."

Battle Mage: "Well... that doesn't sound so bad..."

Viserys: "To another Plane of existence."

Artificer: "Ah, there we go..."

Viserys, sounding visibly more excited: "And for the enchanters here in the audience, fabulous wealth, accommodations in top-class billets, the support and the spirit of healthy cooperation and competition among your peers as well as the very best protections from all manner of harm, as any strategic resource--I mean, er, valuable citizen can hope to manage."

Artificer: "...I mean, maybe it'll be boring? No excitement when you're locked up behind three layers of wards ten hours a day."

Battle Mage: 😟
 
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@DragonParadox I have a thought any one with the right bloodline has the potential to be sorcerer and the bloodline of father storm through his daughter is one such bloodline . Were I am going with this is that based on this every single noble house in the Stormlands and possibly a good deal of the common citizenry have the storm god's bloodline , here is the thing house Durrandon has existed for over 8000 years during that time the would have married their most powerful immediate vassals spreading the bloodline while at the same time traditions like the first night and the general siring of basterds would spread the bloodline further among the common people then those same noble houses the Storm Kings married into would marry their immediate vassals ,practice the first night and sire basterds of their own further spreading the bloodline and so on and so forth for over 8000 years until the current day , So it stands to think the bloodline of Father Storm will have now spread threw the entirety of the stormlands meaning that once the Mage academies start getting established we will see a massive number of sorcerers trained as methods to awaken their bloodline magic become available to the people of the Stormlands not to mention restoring Father Storm would likely increase that number by a few orders of magnitude
 
mmgaballah said:
@DragonParadox I have a thought any one with the right bloodline has the potential to be sorcerer and the bloodline of father storm through his daughter is one such bloodline . Were I am going with this is that based on this every single noble house in the Stormlands and possibly a good deal of the common citizenry have the storm god's bloodline , here is the thing house Durrandon has existed for over 8000 years during that time the would have married their most powerful immediate vassals spreading the bloodline while at the same time traditions like the first night and the general siring of basterds would spread the bloodline further among the common people then those same noble houses the Storm Kings married into would marry their immediate vassals ,practice the first night and sire basterds of their own further spreading the bloodline and so on and so forth for over 8000 years until the current day , So it stands to think the bloodline of Father Storm will have now spread threw the entirety of the stormlands meaning that once the Mage academies start getting established we will see a massive number of sorcerers trained as methods to awaken their bloodline magic become available to the people of the Stormlands not to mention restoring Father Storm would likely increase that number by a few orders of magnitude
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It does not quite work out that way, else all the Reach would be able to claim magic by descent of Garth Greanhand. It takes a certain inclination of the spirit not just te right ancestors to make a sorcerer.
 
mmgaballah said:
what kind of inclinations of the spirit , how common are they in the general population and can we instill them in the citizenry through our soon to be established system of public schooling
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Sorcery is complicated and it is not all one thing, what would make a dragon-blood sorcerer would do nothing for a storm blooded one for instance. Now the Scholarum can awaken sorcerers, has been able to do so for a while, but the methods it uses to do so cannot be applied to the general population, they take too much time and effort, Sorcerers are awoken either in a moment of peril or revelation or by a rigorous regiment or arcane exposure. It does not scale at the level of the whole population else the Valyrians would have all their population be mages.
 
The obvious solution to this conundrum is to build a giant device that blasts people with magic and trauma to induce awakening latent bloodline powers. We can just memory moss the failed attempts.
 
DragonParadox said:
Sorcery is complicated and it is not all one thing, what would make a dragon-blood sorcerer would do nothing for a storm blooded one for instance. Now the Scholarum can awaken sorcerers, has been able to do so for a while, but the methods it uses to do so cannot be applied to the general population, they take too much time and effort, Sorcerers are awoken either in a moment of peril or revelation or by a rigorous regiment or arcane exposure. It does not scale at the level of the whole population else the Valyrians would have all their population be mages.
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What about that stunt Zathyr pulled a month ago when he Awakened every living citizens on Sorcerer's Deep? Can such thing be replicated?

The flesh is willing (Flesh Forge), but can the same be said for the soul?
 
Azel said:
The obvious solution to this conundrum is to build a giant device that blasts people with magic and trauma to induce awakening latent bloodline powers. We can just memory moss the failed attempts.
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Viserys suspects that if he should ever brave the flames, beasts and fell curses of Old Valyria he will in some forgotten drawer find just such a proposal... probably marked 'too expensive'. :V

Jack vile Ripper said:
What about that stunt Zathyr pulled a month ago when he Awakened every living citizens on Sorcerer's Deep? Can such thing be replicated?

The flesh is willing (Flesh Forge), but can the same be said for the soul?
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That was the Red God and he gave everyone cantrips as SLAs not sorcery.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Viserys suspects that if he should ever brave the flames, beasts and fell curses of Old Valyria he will in some forgotten drawer find just such a proposal... probably marked 'too expensive'. :V
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I'd expecting more notes akin to "Why would we build something that no True Valyrian would need to get his power?" or "Where are the buttons for cat ears and big titties?"
 
Past a certain point, you don't want your entire population to be Sorcerers. Trying to run a society where every citizen is limited to the feats & skills of a low-level Sorcerer is a terrible idea. I mean it's better than commoner, but in many situations it's straight-up inferior to Expert, a Tier 5 NPC class!
And of course when most of your population are slaves, you don't want to let them take the first step on the road to ultimate power. One day you'll wake up and realize a cautious Sorcerer-slave took a social build and got XP from every interaction with your sadistic ass, and now they're a high-level spellcaster organising plucky underdogs to mount a desperate resistance movement centered around a 15 year-old girl with special hair & eye colours + a love triangle :D
 
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