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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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...does it count for a "Wheel of Time" reference if I note he's been rating stuff again? :V
 
Azel said:
The Stillborn God is designed for 5 domains already, not all of which are shared by Viserys.

Either way, I'm pretty sure we already had a ruling that any symbol of the Imperium can work. So we will likely see Imperial Mages using their military rank insignia, tax collectors using their ID badges and similar stuff.
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Which domains were those again?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 3, 2021 at 12:46 PM, finished with 29 posts and 8 votes.
  • [X] Plan Optics
    -[X] The watch is entirely reliant on the Imperium for recruits, simply due to having no reach to lands outside of its borders anymore. At the same time, it is de factor defending the realm as if it was another branch of its military, tasked with protecting a specific border against a specific foe. This is a state of affairs that is unprecedented and the neutrality of the Watch is no longer truly possible or even desirable under these circumstances.
    -[X] The Watch suffered greatly from being an ignored relic during the last centuries and giving them a voice and a presence in the halls of power would change that.
    -[X] You are mindful of the oaths the Black Brother swore though and thus would propose a compromise. As their oath forbids them from winning glories, and a Curia position might be considered such, their representative could use a mask and glamours to conceal his identity. Perhaps a somewhat theatrical solution, but it would ensure the oath is obeyed while still giving them a seat.
    -[X] At the same time, a member of the Curia is not forced to vote on anything. If he feels that the Watch should not interfere in matters that do not directly relate to their affairs, they can simply abstain from all other votes and discussions.
    -[X] Ultimately though, while you think it would be rather beneficial for the Watch to become noticed in Imperial politics, the choice is his. If he would prefer not to have a formal representative at court, then you will accept his wishes.
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Part MMMDCCXLIII: Of Bear and Dragon True
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    • Of Bear and Dragon True ​

    Fifth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

    Jeor Mormont is far indeed from a fool, even in those matters he does not oft concern himself with by choice and oath both he sees with a keen and unclouded eye. "I see why you would wish to know the Northern Border is guarded and the needs of the Watch and the Wall fulfilled, but surely there are enough of those who hold their oaths to the Imperium to give a proper report before the council without calling on us to vote besides nobles and merchants? We have left that long behind us, the better to keep our eyes to the North. If an envoy is needed one shall be sent."

    "And that envoy shall be heard before the Throne, but there is worth in having council always to call and not just when need presses closest," you counter. Tapping your fingers along the table in thought you consider how to approach this. In the end you motion to the window. "Look outside, what do you see? Men who have dedicated themselves to the Black, yes? They know this place and here they are oathbound to stay where others can return to the south. That perspective is valuable to have in the Curia not to remind me of the stakes and the perils, my memory is quite good enough, but to remind their fellows, Vox and Princpes both. I have found to my sorrow that some men can grow complacent of even the most dreadful of threats if there is no mark of it under their eye, no voice to call them to mind. That and no more I ask for, a black cloak and the wisdom it brings, the voice raised in warning when the watchfulness of others might be sleeping."

    "Still, such an honor weighs heavy upon me to receive in the name of any of our brothers," the Lord Commander confesses. "We are bid to seek no glories as surely as to sire no children, and while the latter might be given a measure of blindness to cover the weakness of men the former is far graver a matter."

    "Then do not call for names, a name is not needed," you shrug. "A mask of black might be worn with as much honor as a cloak and thus no titles or laurels are to be given to any one name, but only to the Watch itself to which honor is rightly due."

    He opens his mouth, looking not best pleased by the thought of mummery, closes it and chews on his mustache in thought. This is far from the first time when you had asked of him to thread the proverbial needle, if never with thread too gaudy in seeming to the straightforward Mormont's gaze. "Who do you have in mind for this? Your Uncle?"

    "Yes, he shall more gainfully search the Palace Library with all lore gathered from across the world and beyond than just the documents the Watch now holds..." And it will help preserve his privacy from courtiers who might otherwise seek to curry favor, you think but do not add. Not that you are not proud of the notion, quite the opposite, but this is not the sort of cleverness the Lord Commander would appreciate, especially as the other part of it would be keeping the Northern Lords from calling undue royal favor.

    For a long moment the elder lord is quiet, but from the very fact it you know what he will say. A 'no' would have been swifter on the tongue. "That seems as good an answer as we are likely to get in this, Your Majesty."

    ***​

    Thus you lay it all out before your great uncle, the reasons and the assurances, the guards upon his person and his privacy both, allowing him the company of his family while still fulfilling his vows not just in form but substance. "You craft circumstance with a skill exceedingly fine, Your Majesty," he confesses at last, the merest edge of laughter over longing and some emotion you cannot name in his voice.

    "That I do not deny, particularly when heart as much as mind calls for it uncle." You pause and consider your next words with care. "If you had not sent that letter to Braavos more than four years ago I might not be here today with a crown upon my head, yet it is not mere gratitude that moves to wish for your company, but the same emotion that drove you to write it. Come to Sorcerer's Deep uncle, there are few of us already and the troubles of the world, deep as they may be, do not require that you endure chill and aches to help in the mending of them."

    "The world, not the realm alone?" he asks, you suspect stalling for time before he must say yeah or nay.

    Motioning to the walls of the keep you note. "This place was not meant to guard any single realm, how could it have been when the realms of men have so changed over the long ages?"

    Aemon nods gravely and for a moment you struggle to read what is behind the gaze so like your own, but then then spark of affection glitters bright in them like a star from behind a cloud. "Well and good then I shall be the envoy of the Watch in thine council, and glad indeed for the company."

    What next?

    [] The Raven and the Dragon (Interlude)

    [] Rat Hunting (Interlude)

    [] Finding new lords for the seats and lands left vacant that you do not wish to keep

    [] Write in

    OOC: Sorry this took so long, it was not enough that I was busy most of today, I also had an internet outage when I finally had the time to write.
     
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    • @DragonParadox what level is Aemon ? , cause now that he is in the deep we can retrain him to be a caster and if he has 15 or more levels we could even get a new true dragon out of it (I am thinking gold Dragon it fits Aemon more than red )
     
    mmgaballah said:
    @DragonParadox what level is Aemon ? , cause now that he is in the deep we can retrain him to be a caster and if he has 15 or more levels we could even get a new true dragon out of it (I am thinking gold Dragon it fits Aemon more than red )
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    He is definitely not level 15. It would be nigh impossible to get that high in the low magic world he lived most of his life in, that said he id very old and very wise, so I would say level 9 Expert works for him.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    Of Bear and Dragon True ​

    Fifth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

    Jeor Mormont is far indeed from a fool. Even in those matters he does not oft concern himself with by choice and oath both, he sees with a keen and unclouded eye. "I see why you would wish to know the Northern Border guarded and the needs of the Watch and the Wall fulfilled, but surely there are enough of those who hold their oaths to the Imperium to give a proper report before the council without calling on us to vote besides noble and merchants? We have left that long behind us, the better to keep our eyes to the North. If an envoy is needed one shall be sent."

    "And that envoy shall be heard before the throne, but there is worth in having council always to call and not just when need presses closest," you counter. Tapping your fingers along the table in thought, you consider how to approach this. In the end you motion to the window. "Look out, what do you see? Men who have dedicated themselves to the black, yes? They know this place, and here they are oathbound to stay, where others can return to the south. That perspective is valuable to have in the Curia, not to remind me of the stakes and the perils, my memory is quite good enough, but to remind their fellows, Vox and Princpes both. I have found to my sorrow that some men can grow complacent of even the most dreadful of threats if there is no mark of it under their eye, no voice to call them to mind. That and no more I ask for, a black cloak and the wisdom it brings, the voice raised in warning when the watchfulness of others might be sleeping."

    "Still, such an honor weighs heavy upon me to receive in the name of any of our brothers," the Lord Commander confesses. "We are bid to seek no glories as surely as to sire no children, and while the latter might be given a measure of blindness to cover the weakness of men, the former is far graver a matter."

    "Then do not call for names, a name is not needed," you shrug. "A mask of black might be worn with as much honor as a cloak, and thus no titles or laurels are to be given to any one name but only to the Watch itself, to which honor is rightly due."

    He opens his mouth, looking not best pleased by the thought of mummery, closes it, then chews on his mustache in thought. This is far from the first time when you had asked of him to thread the proverbial needle, if never with thread so gaudy in seeming to the straightforward Mormont's gaze. "Who do you have in mind for this? Your Uncle?"

    "Yes, he shall more gainfully search the Palace Library with all lore gathered from across the world and beyond than just the documents the Watch now holds..." And it will help preserve his privacy from courtiers who might otherwise seek to curry favor, you think but do not add. Not that you are not proud of the notion, quite the opposite in fact, but this is not the sort of cleverness the lord commander would appreciate, especially as the other part of it would be keeping the Northern Lords from calling it undue royal favor.

    For a long moment the elder lord is quiet, but from that very fact, you know what he will say. A 'no' would have been swifter on the tongue. "That seems as good an answer as we are like to get in this, Your Majesty."

    ***​

    Thus you lay it all out before your great uncle, the reasons and the assurances, the guards upon his person and his privacy both, allowing him the company of his family while still fulfilling his vows, not just in form as substance. "You craft circumstance with a skill exceedingly fine, Your Majesty," he confesses at last, the merest edge of laughter over longing and some emotion you cannot name in his voice.

    "That I do not deny, particularly when heart as much as mind calls for it, uncle." You pause and consider your next words with care. "If you had not sent that letter to Braavos more than four years ago, I might not be here today with a crown upon my head, yet it is not mere gratitude that moves to to wish for your company, but the same emotion that drove you to write it. Come to Sorcerer's Deep, uncle. There are few of us already, and the troubles of the world, deep as they may be, do not require that you endure chill and aches to help in the mending of them."

    "The world, not the realm alone?" he asks, you suspect stalling for time before he must say yeah or nay.

    Motioning to the walls of the keep, you note, "This place was not meant to guard any single realm. How could it have been, when the realms of men have so changed over the long ages."

    Aemon nods gravely and for a moment you struggle to read what is behind the gaze so like your own, but then then sparks of affection glitters bright in them like a star from behind a cloud. "Well and good then, I shall be the envoy of the Watch in thine councils and glad indeed for the company."

    What next?

    [] The Raven and the Dragon (Interlude)

    [] Rat Hunting (Interlude)

    [] Finding new lords for the seats and lands left vacant that you do not wish to keep

    [] Write in

    OOC: Sorry this took so long, it was not enough that I was busy most of today, I also had and internet outage when I finally had the time to write. Not yet edited.
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    Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.

    Finally, we are getting Aemon to SD. We had to conquer Westeros to do it, but we managed in the end.
     
    Strap in boys and girls, it's time for some Doppel Rat hunting!

    We don't want to leave them on their own for too long, else they may become DROUS.

    [X] Rat Hunting (Interlude)
     
    So what do you guys think of the last few updates? I know it's been slow but there is a lot of set up for next month when the politics and military reform and we can have more institutional content as well as conflicts that feel like they are between states and not just adventurers without WBL.
     
    One the one hand, it feels slow, but on the other hand, I understand that there is so fucking much that has to happen onscreen, especially right now after we have just grown our kingdom in size by... about how much again? I'm pretty sure that Westeros is pretty large by land area, but if I remember correctly much smaller than some of our other holdings by population.
     
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