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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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mrsean22 said:
Man that knight really didn't want to face the Others thinking it be for Viserys huh? Kinda ignored everyone else.
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To be fair, even without wanting to spite Viserys, in a universe where an afterlife is a concrete fact I could see way someone would take "guaranteed afterlife," vs "dudes who casually soul kill peeps 360 no scope all day every day." too bad about those broken heavens though. Hope the dude was actually genuinely faithful.
 
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Viserys can go through multiple back to back high level mage duels, then relax for an hour--not even sleep, but simply rest, and be good to go again.

@DragonParadox Do people just think Viserys can do anything with magic that common convention says should be limited, at this point? The spell casting everything without word or gesture, reaching into virtually every school and discipline, using Divine and Arcane...

At this point I guess the only thing we can't really do is fleshsmithing (identifying and maybe even cataloging the work of Fleshsmiths? Sure, he has Knowledge (Nature) and Knowledge (Arcana) high enough for it, but most of the work he would do would be more the result of Wishcraft and brute force).

And Artificing.

There's also the lack of Psionic powers.

But really, pretty much everything else is on the table. And we're pretty much experts at Ritual magic.

Put Lya, Viserys and Qyburn in a room together, and they could probably figure their way out of any problem.
 
Crake said:
Viserys can go through multiple back to back high level mage duels, then relax for an hour--not even sleep, but simply rest, and be good to go again.

@DragonParadox Do people just think Viserys can do anything with magic that common convention says should be limited, at this point? The spell casting everything without word or gesture, reaching into virtually every school and discipline, using Divine and Arcane...

At this point I guess the only thing we can't really do is fleshsmithing (identifying and maybe even cataloging the work of Fleshsmiths? Sure, he has Knowledge (Nature) and Knowledge (Arcana) high enough for it, but most of the work he would do would be more the result of Wishcraft and brute force).

And Artificing.

There's also the lack of Psionic powers.

But really, pretty much everything else is on the table. And we're pretty much experts at Ritual magic.

Put Lya, Viserys and Qyburn in a room together, and they could probably figure their way out of any problem.
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Depends on what you mean by people. Most of the people in this room are unlikely to have 4 points of arcana knowledge between them so for them it is just 'big magic'. If you mean mages skilled enough to know what all that means, yeah they assume he has Spellcasting: YES.
 
DragonParadox said:
If you mean mages skilled enough to know what all that means, yeah they assume he has Spellcasting: YES.
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Well, those two Lannister mages we freed?

Viserys looked down at him from a Throne he created, then casually identified they were enslaved (from their PoV, rather than knowing beforehand well in advance they would be since this isn't public information) and then said "You're free", with those two words being the only spoken words in the action of casting off their bonds with magic they can't even begin to indentify, other than as "the Concept of Freedom distilled into form" hammering their Geass off like literal chains. Not metaphorical, literal.
 
Crake said:
Well, those two Lannister mages we freed?

Viserys looked down at him from a Throne he created, then casually identified they were enslaved (from their PoV, rather than knowing beforehand well in advance they would be since this isn't public information) and then said "You're free", with those two words being the only spoken words in the action of casting off their bonds with magic they can't even begin to indentify, other than as "the Concept of Freedom distilled into form" hammering their Geass off like literal chains. Not metaphorical, literal.
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They were mostly too shocked to roll spellcraft, but the shock was there yeah.
 
DragonParadox said:
They were mostly too shocked to roll spellcraft, but the shock was there yeah.
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Another thing you understate/don't underscore much in the update, probably simply because it's beneath the scope of concern for Viserys by this point, is we're gathered in Court with people who are used to Robert's holding session, and then Aerys before him.

And here Viserys is styling on everyone with his first dramatic act of holding court, in any capacity, in Westeros, something they dreaded every day for years...

...being him going, "I am shocked and appalled by this human travesty. Slavery is a crime, but to see it here in Westeros? Not on my watch!"

The cognitive dissonance must be shutting sooo many brains down! :lol:
 
Crake said:
Viserys can go through multiple back to back high level mage duels, then relax for an hour--not even sleep, but simply rest, and be good to go again.

@DragonParadox Do people just think Viserys can do anything with magic that common convention says should be limited, at this point? The spell casting everything without word or gesture, reaching into virtually every school and discipline, using Divine and Arcane...

At this point I guess the only thing we can't really do is fleshsmithing (identifying and maybe even cataloging the work of Fleshsmiths? Sure, he has Knowledge (Nature) and Knowledge (Arcana) high enough for it, but most of the work he would do would be more the result of Wishcraft and brute force).

And Artificing.

There's also the lack of Psionic powers.

But really, pretty much everything else is on the table. And we're pretty much experts at Ritual magic.

Put Lya, Viserys and Qyburn in a room together, and they could probably figure their way out of any problem.
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Watch the westerosi reaction when we publicly grant particularly favored lords blessings of fertility and intelligence that echo throughout their bloodline for generations. Right now they've only seen the fist, they'd be chomping at the bit for a chance to prove themselves worthy of the carrot.
BronzeTongue said:
So @DragonParadox what did those Legionaries put money on Viserys doing?
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Would it be cheating if we try to join the bet? :p
 
Duesal said:
Watch the westerosi reaction when we publicly grant particularly favored lords blessings of fertility and intelligence that echo throughout their bloodline for generations. Right now they've only seen the fist, they'd be chomping at the bit for a chance to prove themselves worthy of the carrot.

Would it be cheating if we try to join the bet? :p
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Divine Mandate: Cure Erectile Dysfunction.

The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known...
 
Crake said:
Another thing you understate/don't underscore much in the update, probably simply because it's beneath the scope of concern for Viserys by this point, is we're gathered in Court with people who are used to Robert's holding session, and then Aerys before him.

And here Viserys is styling on everyone with his first dramatic act of holding court, in any capacity, in Westeros, something they dreaded every day for years...

...being him going, "I am shocked and appalled by this human travesty. Slavery is a crime, but to see it here in Westeros? Not on my watch!"

The cognitive dissonance must be shutting sooo many brains down! :lol:
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If I were writing and interlude I would absolutely focus on that, but Viserys had half his mind pondering history and the other half considering further conquest. He could not spare the thought for how the court might react, beyond yep they are all oddly silent.

BronzeTongue said:
So @DragonParadox what did those Legionaries put money on Viserys doing?
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Turning into a dragon and melding the Iron throne to slag, the chamber is large enough

Anyway good night guys, see you tomorrow in the Westerlands.
 
Crake said:
Well, those two Lannister mages we freed?

Viserys looked down at him from a Throne he created, then casually identified they were enslaved (from their PoV, rather than knowing beforehand well in advance they would be since this isn't public information) and then said "You're free", with those two words being the only spoken words in the action of casting off their bonds with magic they can't even begin to indentify, other than as "the Concept of Freedom distilled into form" hammering their Geass off like literal chains. Not metaphorical, literal.
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🤯***BOOM***🤯

Instantly retrained from 6th level Wizards into 6th level Imperial Clerics.

Viserys: 😎
 
@DragonParadox One last thing. The Runecrafting feature, Elder Roots, if the Throne of Dawn had those extra pillars reforged from the Iron Throne added to the whole set up, would it count for those benefits despite the parts of it not having the weight of history associated with it?

It would be neat to add special wards to the whole set up, with the Throne being tied to the Palace's defenses.
 
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Ohhhh! I just got an idea!

Well, seeing as we are going the 40K route, how about turning the Iron Throne as a centerpiece for the first Imperial Titan?

If nothing else, a walking platform for the Praetorians designed for Sothorys, Abyss, Lands of Always Winter, and areas where we can't deploy the skyships?

I still wonder why Braavos is not working on turning the Titan mobile yet.
 
Crake said:
@DragonParadox One last thing. The Runecrafting feature, Elder Days, if the Throne of Dawn had those extra pillars reforged from the Iron Throne added to the whole set up, would it count for those benefits despite the parts of it not having the weight of history associated with it?

It would be neat to add special wards to the whole set up, with the Throne being tied to the Palace's defenses.
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Since you are using the whole iron throne and not trying to split it up and it has continuity of purpose yes it would.,
 
DragonParadox said:
If I were writing and interlude I would absolutely focus on that, but Viserys had half his mind pondering history and the other half considering further conquest. He could not spare the thought for how the court might react, beyond yep they are all oddly silent.
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I would certainly like to see their POV at some point. The occasion is a momentous one for the quest.
Crake said:
@DragonParadox One last thing. The Runecrafting feature, Elder Roots, if the Throne of Dawn had those extra pillars reforged from the Iron Throne added to the whole set up, would it count for those benefits despite the parts of it not having the weight of history associated with it?

It would be neat to add special wards to the whole set up, with the Throne being tied to the Palace's defenses.
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Now this would be neat.
 
Crake said:
At this point I guess the only thing we can't really do is fleshsmithing (identifying and maybe even cataloging the work of Fleshsmiths? Sure, he has Knowledge (Nature) and Knowledge (Arcana) high enough for it, but most of the work he would do would be more the result of Wishcraft and brute force).

And Artificing.

There's also the lack of Psionic powers.
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He's also bad at riding real horses, and not that good at singing. I'm afraid that bumps him down to a 7/10 rating for Sorcerer-King.
 
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