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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Alliterate said:
And a nightmare for those young Wizards, too.
Don't forget the constant ambient Dhar temptation. Always there, seeping in to you.
We experienced it, even highly trained battle wizards have take exceptional steps (like IIRC to rotating in and out) to manage it, alongside their centering rituals. I'd not want to bring young wizards still learning self-control into Sylvania, it seems like a bad idea.

Unless you mean to job-create by making more Necromancers.

Forget an Apprentice, those shouldn't be anywhere in Sylvania.
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...oof, that's a good point, and that makes the prospect of trying to scrounge up research-focused half-actions from a source in Sylvania really scary.
 
Alliterate said:
And a nightmare for those young Wizards, too.
Don't forget the constant ambient Dhar temptation. Always there, seeping in to you.
We experienced it, even highly trained battle wizards have take exceptional steps (like IIRC to rotating in and out) to manage it, alongside their centering rituals. I'd not want to bring young wizards still learning self-control into Sylvania, it seems like a bad idea.

Unless you mean to job-create by making more Necromancers.

Forget an Apprentice, those shouldn't be anywhere in Sylvania.
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Right, that's fair enough. Then again, that just means we need to heal the place first... :V

Another thought, though, is that Markgraf would be nice because then Mathilde would actually have an excuse for getting her head stuck into everybody else's jobs, as she has a tendency to do.
 
silentorphan said:
Whenever the subject of an apprentice came up in the past, I think the consensus always was "wait until we get out of AP hell."
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That's effectively synonymous with 'never'.

AP Hell is eternal and undying. If there has actually come a time where we've run out of other things to do, something has gone terribly wrong.

(I can't say I'm terribly interested in having an apprentice myself, but I feel it needs to be said anyways.)
 
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Redshirt Army said:
Which Word of Boney would that be?
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BoneyM said:
Allow me to quote the very first post in this thread.
BoneyM said:
In CK2 quests you have your advisors, a handful of descriptive lines updated every half a decade or so that regularly spit out three or more neat little options for how to improve your lot in life. They are almost always trusted implicitly even among the most paranoid of threads unless they're described as twirling a moustache and carving chaotic sigils into the meeting room table, and I wondered what their life was like when they weren't delivering their annual reports. Do they truly have no desire other than to serve you, or do they have murkier motivations than their lord ever sees?
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I explicitly began this quest as an examination and deconstruction of that structure. I'm not going to heave all of that overboard and start playing it completely straight.
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[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Spymaster of Wissenland
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Nagarythe
[x] Research Sabbatical
 
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Sylvania is the death of research assistance frankly on the other hand we set the agenda and priorities. So probably more personal actions open for us to use on what ever we want. But yea no way we get an apprentice there.
 

Okay, sure, our advisors will have personalities and their own active agendas - a lot of that is implicit with Boney being a good writer anyway. It doesn't address what I actually don't like about CK2 quests - that they're about the polity, not the person.

I don't want Mathilde to become the leader of a polity regardless of what the mechanical representation of that is, given that I didn't sign up to this quest to run a fief.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
Sylvania is the death of research assistance frankly on the other hand we set the agenda and priorities. So probably more personal actions open for us to use on what ever we want. But yea no way we get an apprentice there.
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Depends on if we commute from K8P, I think. I am assuming we are still going to set up a research institute/library if stay living there.
 
i believe makgraf is the not inheritable one right? or was it the other one count of Sylvania?

Either way, if makgraf wins and we decide to leave it could we at least choose our succesor? While makgraf isn't my prefered option i think their are a few cool adventures we could have their, help Kasmir and his god project, and if we get to choose our succesor then maybe we can choose one amicable to us and waystone are my thoughts for future waystone stuff if it doesn't win.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Okay, sure, our advisors will have personalities and their own active agendas - a lot of that is implicit with Boney being a good writer anyway. It doesn't address what I actually don't like about CK2 quests - that they're about the polity, not the person.

I don't want Mathilde to become the leader of a polity regardless of what the mechanical representation of that is, given that I didn't sign up to this quest to run a fief.
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.... but EdgeLord is not?

Our job is to stamp on Vampires, and as long as the nobles behave we can leave them alone. (rose doesn't even care to inforce tax.)

it's essentially the Martial/Intrge option.
 
GrimTheMad said:
That's effectively synonymous with 'never'.

AP Hell is eternal and undying. If there has actually come a time where we've run out of other things to do, something has gone terribly wrong.

(I can't say I'm terribly interested in having an apprentice myself, but I feel it needs to be said anyways.)
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Research Sabbatical would have solved AP hell, at least for a while.
 
Raydom said:
i believe makgraf is the not inheritable one right? or was it the other one count of Sylvania?

Either way, if makgraf wins and we decide to leave it could we at least choose our succesor? While makgraf isn't my prefered option i think their are a few cool adventures we could have their, help Kasmir and his god project, and if we get to choose our succesor then maybe we can choose one amicable to us and waystone are my thoughts for future waystone stuff if it doesn't win.
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Markgraf is noninheritable. It'll revert to the EC upon our death/abdication.

Edit: Weber'd.
 
Raydom said:
i believe makgraf is the not inheritable one right? or was it the other one count of Sylvania?

Either way, if makgraf wins and we decide to leave it could we at least choose our succesor? While makgraf isn't my prefered option i think their are a few cool adventures we could have their, help Kasmir and his god project, and if we get to choose our succesor then maybe we can choose one amicable to us and waystone are my thoughts for future waystone stuff if it doesn't win.
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It'd be entirely Roswitas choice. I imagine she'd take advice, but also- given all the she's conceding to us to perform the role- that she'd be very disappointed if we left with the job undone.

Unfortunately, I think Sylvania will consume as much of us as we offer it, which knowing us (Mathilde, the thread) will be all we can give.
 
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Raydom said:
i believe makgraf is the not inheritable one right? or was it the other one count of Sylvania?

Either way, if makgraf wins and we decide to leave it could we at least choose our succesor? While makgraf isn't my prefered option i think their are a few cool adventures we could have their, help Kasmir and his god project, and if we get to choose our succesor then maybe we can choose one amicable to us and waystone are my thoughts for future waystone stuff if it doesn't win.
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Markgraf is the non-inheritable one, and indeed the position itself will likely dissolve completely as soon as we say the jobs done. It's more an emergency position than anything else.
 
the more I think about it the more I like the waystone project. It starts with a visit to the elves that proposed the plan includes visits to waystone all across the old world to compare those working well with those that do not and we already know enough that we where able to temporarily block the flow to Vlag. It will not take decades as we are not trying to repair the entire network but fix one or two waystones as that might be enough for the dwarfs to power one of the golden age great works once more and once we know how we can write a book about it so other can do it or even create an organization that does waystone repairs/maintiance/expansion full time once the methods have been developed that might not need a mage of our skills.

Belegar is interested in finding out more about where the magic goes from his hold and why combine that with spending dwarven favor to ask for a runesmith to work on the waystones with us and the elves have asked us to try and fix a waystone so they should provide support for the project as well.
 
[X] The Waystone Project
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
[x] Nagarythe
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Loremaster Sinecure
 
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