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Bigger actually, unless you have really, really big towers on your fortress.

Have this handy chart:
Do not forget that Westeros is a land of giant castles, so there may be towers of a larger size. Here's an example of Winterfell which may intentionally be the largest used castle in Westeros, but it's still a good example.


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Deploy Praetorians to secure the Keep and investigate?
No Praetori on board. At least not enough to assault a keep.
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Order of things would be the ultimatum for Seaguard the Legion Gating to Pinkmaiden for a loose siege. Once Seagurd has surrendered or been destroyed by the Manticores, they would fly over to Pinkmaiden.
 
[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands
 
[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands
 
[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands
 
[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands
 
[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands
 
[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands
 
Do not forget that Westeros is a land of giant castles, so there may be towers of a larger size. Here's an example of Winterfell which may intentionally be the largest used castle in Westeros, but it's still a good example.


[X] Accept Bryce Caron's offer to intercede with his fellow lord so that he will be less intransigent.

[X] Switch Perspective
-[X] Establishing control over the Riverlands

It varies wildly between depictions and I doubt that any of the castles we visited, except for the Eyrie, is the size of one of those mega-castles.
 
It varies wildly between depictions and I doubt that any of the castles we visited, except for the Eyrie, is the size of one of those mega-castles.
As I imagined myself, someone who managed to build a Wall would easily build Winterfell from the video. Well, then the secrets of construction and rune magic spread throughout Westeros. So I always imagined castles to be unimaginably huge.
 
We've also got Harrenhal, which quite frankly should collapse under its own weight but somehow doesn't. It's a staple of the setting that westerosi architecture is a bit too big to make sense.
 
Do not forget that Westeros is a land of giant castles, so there may be towers of a larger size. Here's an example of Winterfell which may intentionally be the largest used castle in Westeros, but it's still a good example.


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o_O that is a ludicrously large castle. Not as big as Ba Sing Se or Minas Tirith though. OTOH the whole Earth Kingdom has a large number of people who have abilities that would be any architect's dream.
 
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Most castles are not overtly magical though. Only the ones made by Bran the Builder.
I agree that most castles do not have magic in them and can not boast of huge sizes. But I don't think that ALL the great castles were built by Brandon the Builder. I always imagined that he had disciples, followers, and imitators. And he himself had to learn from someone. I don't believe that one person, even a ten-level myth, can build ALL the famous castles of Westeros.
 
[X] Send a message to the Deep to get a letter signed by Stannis Baratheon that the Legion will act honorably and its officers should be accorded all due diffidence
 
I agree that most castles do not have magic in them and can not boast of huge sizes. But I don't think that ALL the great castles were built by Brandon the Builder. I always imagined that he had disciples, followers, and imitators. And he himself had to learn from someone. I don't believe that one person, even a ten-level myth, can build ALL the famous castles of Westeros.
He made Winterfell and Storms End.

Runestone is also explicitly magical, but it's tiny compared to the others.

The Eyrie is of Andal make, though it can somewhat compare in megalomania, but let me go on the record to state that the book version is ugly as sin.

Highgarden is also highly magical and big, courtesy of Garth the Green and likely some Fey help.

Harrenhall is a non-magical pile of megalomania and rocks, which we know, because we checked.

The Red Keep has something buried beneath.

Casterly Rock is not all that big above ground. It's mostly a bunch of buildings and towers hewn into the rock.

That's about it for mega-castles and everything we know for sure to be magical.
Other keeps are of reasonable sizes. Or, more likely, Martin never stated a size for them and thus they can be assumed to be reasonably sized.

The core problem is that castles as stupidly huge as what you have shown for Winterfell are impossible to maintain. The Starks are simply not wealthy enough.
 
Which is why Harrenhal makes no sense to me.

That thing should have cracked the earth and crushed a piece of the Underdark.
Reminder here that Martin said the wall looked too big in the show and they told him they already had made it smaller.

Which is why I'm putting no stock in the book sizes of castles.
 
The Eyrie is of Andal make, though it can somewhat compare in megalomania, but let me go on the record to state that the book version is ugly as sin.

That ain't too bad...I mean even that's not the best looking castle, I suppose.

I think any rendition of the Eyrie is mostly getting across the MASSIVE hypocritical hubris and ego involved with enslaving the indigenous population despite your holy book preaching against exactly that, and having escaped from the empire of rampant slavers, and building a castle in the most excruciatingly difficult and impractical place possible with aforementioned slave labor.
 

That ain't too bad...I mean even that's not the best looking castle, I suppose.

I think any rendition of the Eyrie is mostly getting across the MASSIVE hypocritical hubris and ego involved with enslaving the indigenous population despite your holy book preaching against exactly that, and having escaped from the empire of rampant slavers, and building a castle in the most excruciatingly difficult and impractical place possible with aforementioned slave labor.
The Eyrie is described as seven slim, white towers.

 
Now I will not dig through the Wiki, but it seemed to me that half of the Reach and Westerlands houses, whose founder was the children of the GreenHand, built a castle on their own and all of them probably had access to magic.

Good night, guys. The first Sputnik-V vaccination does not give the strength to continue the dialogue.
 
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