Which ones have the most training potential now? We got a huge boost too Agility thanks too Ardat
The Agility boost from Ardat made it easier to reach our most recent rank up. I'm not sure if its still in effect.

Strength is probably the easiest to upgrade again, because among the two that ranked up longest ago, its had fewer total post-evolution rank ups.
 
I say we keep going for a relatively balanced approach when it comes to training.
Strength is probably the easiest to upgrade again, because among the two that ranked up longest ago, its had fewer total post-evolution rank ups.
Not so sure on this. the maxium talent is A++, so it's one from being the max s it's probably a lot harder to raise the agility.
 
The Talent ranks goes from F to A ( I got the number of + wrong tho) for most mon, stated in the talent lore entry. Whilst Verg isn't a normal mon I don't have high hopes for him being something like a mon who could get like a S rank talent if such a thing exists.
Okay, yeah. Going beyond A+++ as an Ultimate is unreasonable. Even for Strength, the Talent that had the highest starting point as an Ultimate, merely reaching A+++ would require having gained a total of 4 rank ups.

Even if we could get a fifth rank up, we'd certainly have evolved to Mega before training enough for that. Reaching A++ should be possible though.
 
So Xia should be making some serious gains as well now she has someone teaching her to fight with a style they can uses as well. Hopefully she keeps ahead of her "rival".
 
14th-15th Of Wood: Challenge. Accepted. & "Neutral"
[] Accept it. You're going to defeat Thresh in any case, and this should stop him from bothering Ardat.

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You find yourself frowning as the seconds stretch on. Naturally your raw instincts demand an answer to Thresh's challenge, to accept it with the full intention of defeating him. However the logical part of your mind points out that this entire situation is not only immature but highly ridiculous.

I should contact Leopardmon and let him know the conditions of Ardat's penance have been met. Then he'd halt Thresh from forcing her to spar… and yet I don't want to rely on him. I can handle this myself, as a Martial Artist.

"Challenge. Accepted." A single step places you directly in front of Thresh, meeting him eye to eye. Your brother doesn't seem as big as you remembered, or rather… you've grown. "This matter will be decided at the Grand Spirit Tournament."

"H-how dare-*ahem* I mean cease this immediately!" Ardat flies up to the side, adopting a more regal tone. "Do not assume you authority over me anymore Chevalier Thresh. I-"

"-don't have any confidence in *your Knight*." Thresh interrupts with a very punchable grin. "Gots it."

"..."

Do not punch him Verge.

"H-how dare you! I-He-he's gonna wreck you stupid face!" She sputters, hitting him with the full intensity of her glare. However all that serves to do is make your brother laugh.

You let out a sigh while Ardat struggles to come up with a response. Your friend may have grown substantially more powerful in the last sixty days… but clearly her wit hasn't improved. Then again, if she's facing Thresh there's not much she can do to win that battle.

"Enough. Victory will be mine in the end, of that there is not any doubt."

Not with how I've advanced upon my path.

"... as you say My Knight." Ardat answers having regained a bit of her cool.

"Its settles then." Thresh nods with utmost confidence… and then winks at you? "Don't be mad when you lose bro."

"You should take your own advice."

"Pfft, sure thing Vee." He snorts before waving one arm in goodbye. "I wanna train my squire more anyway so… you two have funs or something."

He's… leaving already? And of his own volition?

You can't help but tilt your head at his retreating form. Thresh is still… well suited to annoying you, but something has definitely changed. Ardat frowns after him as well, nervously clutching the elbow of her monstrous hand. She doesn't relax until well after the gym's doors slide closed again.

"Verge, my Knight. I am… you have my sincere apologies for losing myself there for a moment. I should have objected before you answered." Ardat admits, giving you a shallower mid-air bow. You return a shallow nod of understanding.

Ah, then, we may continue the conversation from before… so long as no one else interferes…



We're still alone. Good.


"My prior words to you were not a rejection." You explain, giving the womon a calm, neutral look. "Nor was it an expression of interest, I have decided to be neutral on the subject. For now, we may continue our relationship as friends." A flash of hope sparks to life in Ardat's lilac eyes, and she lets a warm smile play onto her face.

"Then… would you deign to join your Lady in a meal?"

… I am starting to get hungry. Why not?

"
Aye." You agree quickly, though something is bothering the far reaches of your mind.

… why did Thresh wink at me?

===AN: Here's the update's first half. Second should be out in one to three hours I think.
 
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14th-15th Of Wood: Training & Experience. Then Training Plan


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"-then I predicted his jump and hit him with one last Sparkling Thunder!" *Boy* exclaims, practically bouncing about your *small* room in his excitement. The Aegiomon raises one fist and plants the other hand on his hip, striking a victorious pose. "Ser Thresh's squire couldn't fight after that sensei, I won!" You resist the urge to snort at his actions, and instead channel that humour into a proud laugh.

"Well done student. From the sound of it you capitalized on his vulnerabilities as a warrior and fought well."

"Heh, thanks… I was just uh, defending your honor." The Aegiomon replies bashfully, the hint of a blush tinting his face.

Zeha, having a student truly is enjoyable. I understand why Master had so much fun training me.

"Umm, sensei? Sorry if this sounds… dumb, but I'm not sure why I was able to beat him up so easily. A-after I got close I mean. If he was training with your brother, then shouldn't he have been… good at that?"

"A good question, and easily answered." You muse sagely. *Boy* isn't one to lie about this, and when combining his description with what you know of your brother… "It's because of the difference you possess in training and experience."

"Uh… what's that supposed to mean exactly?" The Champion frowns and tilts his head at you in confusion.

"My brother relies primarily on his natural instinct, and experience gained from battle. A combination that works so well because of ingrained talent. Fighting comes natural to him, and his skill develops accordingly."

"Why are you telling me about…" His eyes widen in sudden understanding. "He treats his student the same way!"

"Correct. And from your explanation ExVeemon lacks my brother's extraordinary combat instincts. Which brings me to the second point. Advancing one's skill only through Sparring with only my brother and presumably Bulwark personnel has left him lacking."

"But… I haven't sparred against that many mon eith-the katas! Training like you've shown me is different, isn't it?!" That earns him a proud nod. "Then… the Maul Style can be applied more uh… broadly?"

"Tutelage in my martial art will not prepare you for any opponent by itself, but aye. The regimented and practiced movements are superior to merely relying on instincts and experience."

"I never thought about it like that." Your student murmurs looking at his hands in sudden wonderment. "Back with Ogremon it was… just brawling with a bunch of different mon. He said… raw experience was the best teacher."

"There is some wisdom in that as well. One must have their skills tempered by experience. You would not have taken to my teachings nearly as well without that reserve to draw upon."

"So… both training and fighting?"

"Essentially, yes."

And speaking of training…

"After evolving to Ultimate you'll be sparring with Dame Fonte's disciples. You lack experience in dealing with weapon-wielding humanoid mons."

"Sure thing sensei! But uh... Who's Dame Fonte?"

"A knightmon, but that will come later. The next days will be focused on your physical limits."

"Yeah…" The Aegiomon winces. "Friggen' enhanced gravity is gonna make this suck. But if it helps me beat up that holy sonuvabitch..."

"Come again?"

"Nothing!"

Hrm… I have the training schedule for him ready, but the hunt will have to wait to until his musculature has finished developing. In the meantime I should build a training plan for myself. When the tournament finally comes, I must be able to defeat Thresh… and Repulsa.

===Training Plan: (120 days)

-[] Plan Name
[] Slot 1
[] Slot 2
[] Slot 3
[] Slot 4
[] Slot 5
[] Slot 6

===Example: (Note, this didn't include talent raising, but each would rank up at least once with a balanced plan) Edit: 1 slot must be allocated to strength and fortitude. Each.

-[] Plan Balanced Progression
[] Str (4 str, 2 Fort, 1 End)
[] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
[] End, (4 End, 1 Str, 1 Fort, 1 Agi)
[] Agi (4 Agi, 2 End, 1 Str)
[] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
[] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)

Plus
Supplements/Bulwark Food ( Per day: 2 End, 2 Agi, 1 Str)

Str: 8X120X17.5= 16,800
Fort: 7X120X16= 13,440
End: 11X120X16= 21,120
Agi: 7X120X13.5= 11,340
Spe: 8X120X16= 15,360
Spi: 8X120X13.5= 12, 960

Final Stats:
Strength: 52,565->61,000->65,182 (1st SC hit)
Fortitude: 44,044 ->57,484
Endurance: 44,242 ->60,200->62,781 (1st SC hit)
Agility: 35,643 ->46,000->47,000 (1st SC hit)
Special: 37,788->52,000->52,524 (1st SC hit)
Spirit: 34,933->43,600->45,747 (1st SC hit)

===Important Edit Notice:

Edit: I'm also allowing for double cycle plans.

[] Plan Name:
-[] Cycle 1
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-[] Cycle 2
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===AN: And here's the second half. Training plan will be open over the weekend. I'm taking away the alternating sets here because of the numbers involved. I don't want to double the work when calculating will already be a fairly long time.
 
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[X] Plan Balanced Progression
-[X] Str (4 str, 2 Fort, 1 End)
-[X] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
-[X] End, (4 End, 1 Str, 1 Fort, 1 Agi)
-[X] Agi (4 Agi, 2 End, 1 Str)
-[X] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
-[X] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
Your Example is good enough for me Drexel , I want to keep Verg's training somewhat balanced to begin with.
 
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[X] The Wall
-[X] Str (4 str, 2 Fort, 1 End)
-[X] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
-[X]End, (4 End, 1 Str, 1 Fort, 1 Agi)
-[X] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
-[X] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
-[X]Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
 
[X] Plan Balanced Progression
-[X] Str (4 str, 2 Fort, 1 End)
-[X] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
-[X] End, (4 End, 1 Str, 1 Fort, 1 Agi)
-[X] Agi (4 Agi, 2 End, 1 Str)
-[X] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
-[X] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
 
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So if we train right we can effectively have over 100,000 in defence thanks to avalon and Mantra chant. How strong is that at this stage cause it seem ridiculously strong.
[X] The Wall
-[X] Str (4 str, 2 Fort, 1 End)
-[X] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
-[X]End, (4 End, 1 Str, 1 Fort, 1 Agi)
-[X] Fort, (4 Fort, 1 Str, 2 End
-[X] Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
-[X]Meditation (4 Spe, 4 Spi)
Whilst you are free to vote as you please the lack of agility training in you plan scares me greatly.
 
So if we train right we can effectively have over 100,000 in defence thanks to avalon and Mantra chant. How strong is that at this stage cause it seem ridiculously strong.

Whilst you are free to vote as you please the lack of agility training in you plan scares me greatly.
Wasn't that around the chicken's level?

So you know, stupidly durable and able to no sell ult and near low mega tier attacks.
 
So if we train right we can effectively have over 100,000 in defence thanks to avalon and Mantra chant. How strong is that at this stage cause it seem ridiculously strong.

Whilst you are free to vote as you please the lack of agility training in you plan scares me greatly.
I think We can afford to focus more on Fort to try and hit it's soft cap
 
To be fair, fortitude is the only stat that hasn't yet hit a softcap, so that may be the reason why. Endurance also does raise it very slightly.
Since our Fortitude Talent is currently the same as our Agility Talent, their softcaps are probably pretty close together, which means Fort would only be a hair below the first one (although both raw value and cap would increase due to increasing the Talent in the process).
 
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To be fair, fortitude is the only stat that hasn't yet hit a softcap, so that may be the reason why. Endurance also does raise it very slightly.
Fortitude can now have our special stat added onto it and make it our highest, surpassing every stat. Its not a priority to raise that to it's soft caps in my eyes at least.
Wasn't that around the chicken's level?

So you know, stupidly durable and able to no sell ult and near low mega tier attacks.
I think cause of his special armour it counted like 80,00 or something. I think he's an example of a powerful ultimate who's reached their peak and can't go further tho.
Edit: Do not try and have us reach that through training.
 
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