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Usagi Quest (CK3/Princess Maker) (Sailor Moon)

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Simon_Jester said:
I don't think Mend works that way. I think you cast it and it, like... to borrow game terminology, it stops hit point loss from ongoing wounds, and it increases your natural healing rate, but you can't just cast it X times in a row to, for example, repair a broken bone in a matter of minutes.

If we're going to fully heal Akane, we need to either invent a better healing spell (Moon Healing Escalation is on the table), learn more about medicine (so that Usagi can actually fix what's wrong with people directly instead of just channeling positive vibes into them), or spend days transformed at her bedside casting Mend on her repeatedly.

None of those are options we can do right here. All will take research, effort, and active effort on at least next turn.
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I already stated earlier on this page that Mend doesn't work through "multiple casts in a row", it's a constant-while-active effect that stabilizes and doubles the target's healing rate only as long as Usagi focuses on it. Twice the time spent means double the healing accomplished. And I made zero claims about healing Akane completely, that's impossible with our current spell and we wouldn't be able to fully heal a single bone. Forget about her broken bones, those are going to take weeks or months for her to heal no matter what, what I meant was that one Action is spent stabilizing her, making sure she isn't at risk of internal bleeding or something. And a second Action should be focused entirely on her head to hopefully bring her out of her concussion earlier to help deal with Ranma, since nobody else present knows anything about the Neko-Ken like her.
 
NaanContributor said:
I already stated earlier on this page that Mend doesn't work through "multiple casts in a row", it's a constant-while-active effect that stabilizes and doubles the target's healing rate only as long as Usagi focuses on it. Twice the time spent means double the healing accomplished...
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...and what you're really hoping is that we can bring Akane out of her concussion faster. I see.

...what I meant was that one Action is spent stabilizing her, making sure she isn't at risk of internal bleeding or something. And a second Action should be focused entirely on her head to hopefully bring her out of her concussion earlier to help deal with Ranma, since nobody else present knows anything about the Neko-Ken like her.
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Okay, THAT makes sense. It's just... not clear to me that the underlying game mechanics will support this being effective.
 
Lunaryon said:
Yeah, the more actions you spend on the healing, the better the healing will be.
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OK, THAT makes me more willing to support a double-action healing plan. Though more than two strikes me as a mistake, both because trying to heal Akane without calming Ranma seems risky and because letting either Mamoru or Pretty Cure slip away without talking to us seems ill-advised.

ALSO, the leading "Akane x2" plans seem to focus on finding Sebastian rather than calming Ranma. I'm not sure that's our best move. I'm interested to hear why people are proposing this.
 
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This is not going to come back and haunt us, will it? Did Jadite get a good enough look at them to learn their civilian Identities? If so, I hope getting hit that hard scrambled his short term memory, else he might start hunting them down.
 
Yes, Jadeite very much did see the Pretty Cures in their civilian identities. Considering that he has shown no qualms about pulling those of the Pretty Cure sphere into his web to achieve his objectives, it is all the more reason for the Senshi to coordinate much more closely with their fellow magical girls.
 
TerrisH said:
This is not going to come back and haunt us, will it? Did Jadite get a good enough look at them to learn their civilian Identities? If so, I hope getting hit that hard scrambled his short term memory, else he might start hunting them down.
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I will say, seeing someone's face for a moment will do very little to actually aid you in learning their identities. Even if he recalled the majority of their appearances perfectly he'd still likely run across a multitude of look-a-likes. It'd take dedicated time and effort to actually find them this way.

And second, Jadeite doesn't really have any reason to involve them in his activities than he already, unwittingly apparently, has.
Now, if they involve themselves it's another matter.
 
FictionPack said:
I will say, seeing someone's face for a moment will do very little to actually aid you in learning their identities. Even if he recalled the majority of their appearances perfectly he'd still likely run across a multitude of look-a-likes. It'd take dedicated time and effort to actually find them this way.

And second, Jadeite doesn't really have any reason to involve them in his activities than he already, unwittingly apparently, has.
Now, if they involve themselves it's another matter.
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And of course, he probably was not paying close attention to what they looked like, besides being teenagers/kids until suddenly magical girl, when he couldn't exactly look anymore at the civilian identities...
 
NMS said:
We're Usagi. Not giving her all to help someone suffering right in front of her just, seems kind of wrong?
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Fair. On the other hand we're kind of voting on the actions of at least three people, possibly four counting Luna. Even if Usagi spends every moment of the next several minutes working to heal Akane, that doesn't mean Ami and Makoto aren't doing something else.

Such as holding Cat-Ranma still and making shushing noises with a calming, firm hug, for values of 'firm' only Sailor Jupiter can manage.

Or such as flash-freezing Tuxedo Mask's foot to the ground until he answers a frickin' question for a change, because desperate situations call for desperate measures. :D

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[My own idea for why one would only spend a single action was that my mental model of the Mend spell is "either it works or it doesn't," so more time spent wouldn't really be about Usagi trying harder; she does what she can and more magic poured down the same well won't change things]
 
Simon_Jester said:
ALSO, the leading "Akane x2" plans seem to focus on finding Sebastian rather than calming Ranma. I'm not sure that's our best move. I'm interested to hear why people are proposing this.
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I don't mean to offend, but not only have people already answered this.
Lunaryon said:
The battle seems to finally be over. "Mrrow?" Everyone turns to the source of the sound. The redheaded Girl kneels next to the shattered crater in the stage, looking down at the girl with a very worried look on her face. The cat turns, looking to the Senshi, before meowing again.
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NaanContributor said:
I don't really agree with the arguments that Ranma will attack us for trying to heal Akane if we don't try to calm him down first. He seems surprisingly calm already to me, and is pretty obviously asking the Senshi to help her in his own animalistic way.

I'm personally guessing (based on how weak the Mend spell is) that one Action of Mend will function as first aid and stabilize her from getting any worse, while hoping that 2 Actions will be enough to bring her back to consciousness. An awake and visibly better Akane could then help reassure Ranma.
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You directly responded to this particular response.
Simon_Jester said:
I don't think Mend works that way. I think you cast it and it, like... to borrow game terminology, it stops hit point loss from ongoing wounds, and it increases your natural healing rate, but you can't just cast it X times in a row to, for example, repair a broken bone in a matter of minutes.

If we're going to fully heal Akane, we need to either invent a better healing spell (Moon Healing Escalation is on the table), learn more about medicine (so that Usagi can actually fix what's wrong with people directly instead of just channeling positive vibes into them), or spend days transformed at her bedside casting Mend on her repeatedly.

None of those are options we can do right here. All will take research, effort, and active effort on at least next turn.
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So you do already have your answer and should have read it when responding to Naan's post.

But to reiterate, what Naan said. Ranma is currently calm and seemingly looking to us for help. It's likely better to put whatever action we could to calm ranma down instead on healing Akane because of that.

Edit: If you're referring to Sebastion specifically, then as I explained when I proposed my plan, I have put him there to act as an intermediary between the Sailor Scouts, Tuxedo Mask, and Pretty Cure. He represents the person setting up the organization after all.
 
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TerrisH said:
This is not going to come back and haunt us, will it? Did Jadite get a good enough look at them to learn their civilian Identities? If so, I hope getting hit that hard scrambled his short term memory, else he might start hunting them down.
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Tokyo is a big city; I suspect it won't be a problem. Especially since Beryl isn't going to encourage Jadeite to 'waste time' hunting down unrelated magical girls who only showed up in the first place because HIS plan drew their nemesis in.

bluefur87 said:
I don't mean to offend, but not only have people already answered this.

You directly responded to this particular response.

So you do already have your answer and should have read it when responding to Naan's post.

But to reiterate, what Naan said. Ranma is currently calm and seemingly looking to us for help. It's likely better to put whatever action we could to calm ranma down instead on healing Akane because of that.
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I'd like to think so, but given that Cat-Ranma is known for berserk rages, I am honestly concerned that if anyone gets close to Akane and does something he doesn't understand that he may snap. Maybe I'm being paranoid over nothing.

Edit: If you're referring to Sebastion specifically, then as I explained when I proposed my plan, I have put him there to act as an intermediary between the Sailor Scouts, Tuxedo Mask, and Pretty Cure. He represents the person setting up the organization after all.
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With that said, when I asked "why are people doing this," I was indeed referring to Sebastian specifically.

See... the thing is, I don't think this is a good time or place for a meeting that sets us up into an organization. There was just a huge civilian evacuation, and then Pretty Cure wave motion gunned a hole in the roof. The police are going to be coming and dealing with them is going to cause distractions. We need to exchange some way of contacting each other (if possible) and at least enough basic information that we have somewhere to begin at a future meeting where we have an hour to sit around a table and talk, and then get the hell outta Dodge.

So my "heal Akane harder" plan would look like

Heal Akane x2
Calm Ramna
Quiz Tuxedo
Quiz Precure

The problem is, of course, that I wrote the "by lunchtime" plan, and I don't want to go back on that for the people who voted for it.
 
FictionPack said:
Just want to point out that this is the exact set up of my plan.
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I do like that aspect of your plan, though I'm not a fan of the particular Questions you went with. Asking about Tuxedo Mask's sword or the particulars of the Zakenna's dispersal don't seem nearly as important as the other Questions posed by other plans. It's the only thing keeping me from also voting for it.
 
Simon_Jester said:
The problem is, of course, that I wrote the "by lunchtime" plan, and I don't want to go back on that for the people who voted for it.
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I would honestly switch to your plan if "lunch" was replaced with anything else. I like the Questions but lunch just seems like an action with the least priority compared to making sure Akane gets better healing.
 
Simon_Jester said:
The problem is, of course, that I wrote the "by lunchtime" plan, and I don't want to go back on that for the people who voted for it.
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k4lepo said:
I would honestly switch to your plan if "lunch" was replaced with anything else. I like the Questions but lunch just seems like an action with the least priority compared to making sure Akane gets better healing.
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Personally, at this point, I'd probably swap my vote to "lunch" as well if the getting food was removed.
 
FictionPack said:
Just want to point out that this is the exact set up of my plan.
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[blinks]

It is? Ohh, yeah. I remember spotting that back when we were first planning.

Well, um. Unfortunately at this point I'm not optimistic about its odds, but that's a good action lineup. To be clear, we're talking about...

[][Cinder] Plan: Medical Mystery Q and A
-[][Cinder] Ask Two Questions of Tuxedo Mask
--[] Why was that sword so important?
--[] Why do you keep running away and refuse to talk to us?
-[][Cinder] Ask Two Questions of the... Pretty Cure was it?
--[] What is the Realm of Light?
--[] What happened when the...not youma was defeated?
-[][Cinder] Try and heal Akane
-[][Cinder] Try and heal Akane x2
-[][Cinder] Try and calm Ranma down

As compared to my

[X] Plan Do It All Before Lunchtime
-[][Cinder] Try and heal Akane
-[][Cinder] Try and calm Ranma down
-[][Cinder] Ask Two Questions of Tuxedo Mask
--[] Who are you?
--[] Is there a way to contact you? Because if we're going to keep attacking the same places and bad guys like this, we should probably start coordinating.
-[][Cinder] Ask Two Questions of the... Pretty Cure was it?
--[] Hi! I'm Sailor ______, [SNIP DESCRIPTION]. Who are you? I mean, aside from what you shouted out in your intro. Good intro! And, uh, thanks for getting the power back on last week I guess? That was probably you, wasn't it? Blackout, rainbow beam, power comes back, y'know?
--[] Who was that Kabuki guy and what did he want, anyway? Our villain said he tricked your villain into attacking us...
-[][Cinder] ...You are actually really hungry after that fight. You need to find somewhere to eat

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So I will edit this post to approval-vote both if convinced about...

NaanContributor said:
I do like that aspect of your plan, though I'm not a fan of the particular Questions you went with. Asking about Tuxedo Mask's sword or the particulars of the Zakenna's dispersal don't seem nearly as important as the other Questions posed by other plans. It's the only thing keeping me from also voting for it.
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This. @FictionPack , I share NaanContributor's concerns. Some of your questions don't really address things we need to know, and we're on a budget here.

k4lepo said:
I would honestly switch to your plan if "lunch" was replaced with anything else. I like the Questions but lunch just seems like an action with the least priority compared to making sure Akane gets better healing.
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I actually wrote it into the plan back when I honestly thought it didn't really make much difference how many times we cast Mend and how many actions we spent on it, so no, it wasn't a deliberate least-priority thing.

Also I wanted to see that social aftermath scene, because Team Moon hasn't gotten a chance to socialize together that included Makoto, and since Makoto doesn't go to school with the others (yet?) it may be a while before they do.

[Also there may be hidden consequences to Usagi pushing herself too long without food, this battle was pretty intense]

tygerbright said:
Personally, at this point, I'd probably swap my vote to "lunch" as well if the getting food was removed.
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I respect that but I don't know if there were people who supported "lunch" BECAUSE it has a social scene... ugh. Well, I can make an option for it and I don't dis-approve of it, so...

[X] Plan Lunchtime Can Wait, Concussions Are Important
-[][Cinder] Try and heal Akane x2
-[][Cinder] Try and calm Ranma down
-[][Cinder] Ask Two Questions of Tuxedo Mask
--[] Who are you?
--[] Is there a way to contact you? Because if we're going to keep attacking the same places and bad guys like this, we should probably start coordinating.
-[][Cinder] Ask Two Questions of the... Pretty Cure was it?
--[] Hi! I'm Sailor ______, [SNIP DESCRIPTION]. Who are you? I mean, aside from what you shouted out in your intro. Good intro! And, uh, thanks for getting the power back on last week I guess? That was probably you, wasn't it? Blackout, rainbow beam, power comes back, y'know?
--[] Who was that Kabuki guy and what did he want, anyway? Our villain said he tricked your villain into attacking us...
 
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