Usagi Quest (CK3/Princess Maker) (Sailor Moon)
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That is not what makes something Grim. The difference between a Grim and a Noble world is that in a Noble world individuals can change the course of history, whether for good or ill. In a Grim world individuals cannot change the state of the world. No this is the difference between a Bright and Dark world you are arguing. Bright worlds are full of Wonder, while Dark worlds are the ones where life sucks. For example, Warhammer is GrimDark, Sandman is GrimBright, The Lord of the Rings is NobleDark, and Narnia is NobleBright.
Lunaryon
Dual Aurora Wave
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- She/Her
...Honestly, I completely forgotten about Stationary Bikes, but I'm not entirely certain what a Rowing machine is
Comrade Future
Man from Zeerust
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- USSR
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- He/His/Him
Something like that .... you have no idea how long it took me to figure out what it's called.
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Answers being either:
1) CRISPR- gene splice that specific gene sequence into everyone, only for it to rapidly mutate "out of true" over time. I don't know if I'd call this 'disturbing,'
2) They know how to artificially correct for most, but not all, of the malformations of the Linker Core caused by genetics. I compared magic use to eyesight; a lot of genetic problems with the human eye can be corrected with eyeglasses, but not all. So we live in a world where most people's vision can be corrected to or near 20/20, but we can't cure colorblindness or, well, actual blindness in most cases.
It is marginally more subtle than the average Dark Kingdom front, so why not?
Of course, there's kind of a middle ground there. You need powerful, effort-intensive action to awaken someone's magic (e.g. a Sailor Scout aided by the Mercury Computer being right there) BECAUSE the vast majority of Earthlings need the equivalent of corrective eyeglasses or braces or whatever to get their Linker Core working effectively.
Taking Naru as our benchmark for Actually Very Muggle Girl who canonically is about as magical as a lump of cheese, in the normal course of things Naru would never have figured out how to channel her magic without extensive jump-starting and knowing she could even try. And her actual abilities are, for now, quite limited because she's got Magic Myopia and we don't know how to make contact lenses for her so she's having to do some kind of very difficult or labor-intensive exercise to inefficiently work around that power limit.
If nearly everyone on Earth is basically like Naru in that respect, barring a relative handful of natural magicians who just happen to have fully functional Linker Cores, then getting everyone on Earth to be magically awakened, given the dearth of magic trainers already existing and the post-Silver Millenium decay of knowledge on how to correct for Linker Core malformation... Well, let's just say it's a good thing that Step One of the 'Operation Reinstate the Silver Millennium' plan is probably 'make everyone immortal' anyway, because otherwise we'd just plain never have the time to get to everyone.
You can then, going off my previous idea, combine that "most Earthlings flat-out can't" with "but Silver Millennium humans could" easily enough. The genes are there to turn a typical Earthling into a magical adept... with extensive magitech-technological intervention and extensive training. Both of which the Silver Millennium had. But the former is Lost Logia or borderline Lost in the present day of the Nanoha setting, and the latter involves a commitment of political and logistical will that no off-Earth power is willing to commit to a backwater like Earth.
"Most people can't fly."
I think we're viewing this very different: you're seeing it as a loss. I'm seeing the ability to have magic as a cool extra that can doesn't really grant anything that can't be gained by other means, it just makes things a bit easier.
But that's not the case. The options are "no magic", "some magic", "a lot of magic" and "Sailor Senshi". With Sailor Senshi blowing the other options out of the water.
But there's alternative, non-innate magical ways of having power.
I mean, that still requires them to have them, which as I mentioned, they don't in Nanoha.
Actually a bit of a plot point IIRC: in the second season, there's a group going around and draining Linker Cores, and they're forced to go off-world due to the fact that most of Earths population simply does not have them. Which, of course, attracts attention to them.
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Yeah, well, Nanoha can compromise for the sake of a crossover setting just as far as Sailor Moon can, can't she?
A significantly malformed Linker Core that can't be corrected without Lost Logia technology and even then needs a major jumpstart isn't effectively all that different from no Linker Core for most plot purposes.
Furthermore, the plot point of a group going around draining Linker Cores is so, so, ridiculously in line with the kind of shit Sailor Moon antagonists get up to all the time that making the change I describe in no way prevents that second-season group from being active in the crossover setting unless I have badly misunderstood what's going on.
Comrade Future
Man from Zeerust
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- USSR
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- He/His/Him
Too tight competition - in Japan, it is customary to give such treats in honor of the autumn full moon. Besides, I'm sure that after such a Usagi-chan overeat and won't be able to get out of bed.
@Lunaryon honest question here. Is there a particular reason you need to explain why magic went away?
As far as I remember from the series, there were no characters really around to explain what happened post fall of the kingdom. So, really, why would any of the quest's characters ever learn what actually happened afterwards?
As far as I remember from the series, there were no characters really around to explain what happened post fall of the kingdom. So, really, why would any of the quest's characters ever learn what actually happened afterwards?
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That question is kind of important if you want to form an army, or even just a cadre of mages...
"Your nomenclature may vary."
Nice system though, fits neatly on a grid. I may steal it.
If some get it and some don't then it really doesn't matter whether they used to have it or not.
If anyone can use magic by holding an Intelligent Device then everyone has the potential for magic.
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...So, what is your view on the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender? I'm not sure of the exact percentages, but I think that at least half of the world's population were non-benders. It was undeniable that benders had access to powers and opportunities that non-benders didn't (the first season of Legend of Korra was based on this), but would that label the world as "grim"? Characters like Sokka and Asami showed that even in such a fantastical world, bending was not the be-all-end-all of whether a person had value or if they were capable of having happy lives.
Do I want as many people as possible to have magic in Usagi's New Moon Kingdom? Of course. Would the existence of a "unfixable" limitation in some people make the whole endeavor a tragedy in the making? Not necessarily. I think we may get a bit more appreciation for what non-mages can do once we officially meet the Ranma crew. But all of this is currently in flux, and we shall see what the future holds.
Like, no. This really is not true. The problem, as posited by the QM is here, underlined for the important bit.
Magic was ubiquitous at one point. Then the Dark Kingdom wrecked everything, causing a start to a Dark Age that ended after an unknown period of time. I'm talking Dark Age literally here, as in we have no records of what happened at the time.
So unless the magic underground community was actually keeping records of what really happened back then, or we're going to be introduced to some super awesome backwards divination magic that lets us look up history, the question must be raised.
Why would we even know "why Magic has gone from ubiquitous to rare?"
Lunaryuon can just write it off as a mystery of the Dark Age that happened after the whole invasion by the Dark Kingdom while we speculate endlessly about what happened and she just nods and says cryptic phrases that imply an unknown level of correctness.
Now, granted, the initial question of how many people can use magic, to what capacity, and how easily, are all relevant. But those don't really have to be the reason that Magic went from ubiquitous to rare. That can just remain a mystery.
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Here is where my information comes from. NobleBright vs GrimDark. Just go down to the explanation of the Grim/Noble and Dark/Bright spectrum section.
Kimiko Quest Mini 1 - GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
Lunaryon
Dual Aurora Wave
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- She/Her
Kimiko Quest Mini:
"Good News Everyone!" Captain Kotatsu says, as he enters the Police Department break room, dropping down into a chair facing the wrong way and wresting his arms on the back of the chair. "We have managed to devise a way to contain the Entity that Captain Matsura managed to capture yesterday night."
"Oh," Lieutenant Goro says, looking up from the hand of cards that he and a few of the other police were playing. "Are we supposed to be congratulating the woman for the absolute shit show of a raid she was involved in?" The other three police officers chuckle even as Captain Kotatsu bristles, but before he can say anything, the door to the Break room open, and in walks a tall thin woman with long black hair."
"That is indeed good news." the woman says, eyes sharper than knives running across the relaxing policemen, each flinching back from her gaze.
"Sp-special Liaison Sakurada," One starts to say, but he doesn't have a chance before Sakurada snaps out a response.
"That is still Superintendent Sakurada to you, Officer Ito. Just because I am acting as a Liaison doesn't mean I have stepped down from my official position." The officer flinches back, before the woman turns to face the Captain. "So. You managed to contain the creature." Kotatsu nods, "Good. I am here to interrogate it." The woman says, a statement that causes the Captain to start to sweat. "Scotland Yard wishes to know if this entity has connections with either the creatures that the Dark Agency have been unleashing on the greater London Area, or the so called Oblivion that have been attacking following and destroying the memories of those who have seen the attacks."
"That... Will be a problem." The Captain says quietly, head ducking.
"I thought you said you managed to contain the creature." The Superintendent General says, and the man nods.
"We have. Due to it..." He pauses here, before sighing. "The creature is made of sugar. It has the ability to heat itself up and move in a liquid sugar like state. Our original attempt at containing the creature by heating it up further and caramelizing it nearly ended in tragedy, but thankfully the Lab had Liquid Nitrogen on hand. The colder the creature became, the weaker it became. It is currently locked in the deep freeze in the morgue."
"...And opening the door to interrogate it would simply unleash a shape shifting monster into the Department." Sakurada fills in the blanks, nodding to herself. "I see... and it was a Captain Matsura that managed to capture the creature?"
"Yes ma'am, she is currently still in the Hospital following the battle." One of the officers offers up, hoping to find some way to get the terrifying boss lady to leave.
The officer flinches back when her gaze settles on him, but she simply gives the man a nod before leaving.
"Good News Everyone!" Captain Kotatsu says, as he enters the Police Department break room, dropping down into a chair facing the wrong way and wresting his arms on the back of the chair. "We have managed to devise a way to contain the Entity that Captain Matsura managed to capture yesterday night."
"Oh," Lieutenant Goro says, looking up from the hand of cards that he and a few of the other police were playing. "Are we supposed to be congratulating the woman for the absolute shit show of a raid she was involved in?" The other three police officers chuckle even as Captain Kotatsu bristles, but before he can say anything, the door to the Break room open, and in walks a tall thin woman with long black hair."
"That is indeed good news." the woman says, eyes sharper than knives running across the relaxing policemen, each flinching back from her gaze.
"Sp-special Liaison Sakurada," One starts to say, but he doesn't have a chance before Sakurada snaps out a response.
"That is still Superintendent Sakurada to you, Officer Ito. Just because I am acting as a Liaison doesn't mean I have stepped down from my official position." The officer flinches back, before the woman turns to face the Captain. "So. You managed to contain the creature." Kotatsu nods, "Good. I am here to interrogate it." The woman says, a statement that causes the Captain to start to sweat. "Scotland Yard wishes to know if this entity has connections with either the creatures that the Dark Agency have been unleashing on the greater London Area, or the so called Oblivion that have been attacking following and destroying the memories of those who have seen the attacks."
"That... Will be a problem." The Captain says quietly, head ducking.
"I thought you said you managed to contain the creature." The Superintendent General says, and the man nods.
"We have. Due to it..." He pauses here, before sighing. "The creature is made of sugar. It has the ability to heat itself up and move in a liquid sugar like state. Our original attempt at containing the creature by heating it up further and caramelizing it nearly ended in tragedy, but thankfully the Lab had Liquid Nitrogen on hand. The colder the creature became, the weaker it became. It is currently locked in the deep freeze in the morgue."
"...And opening the door to interrogate it would simply unleash a shape shifting monster into the Department." Sakurada fills in the blanks, nodding to herself. "I see... and it was a Captain Matsura that managed to capture the creature?"
"Yes ma'am, she is currently still in the Hospital following the battle." One of the officers offers up, hoping to find some way to get the terrifying boss lady to leave.
The officer flinches back when her gaze settles on him, but she simply gives the man a nod before leaving.
So Harry Potter, huh?
Man, Magical Britain is going to be pissed once we stop caring about the masquerade.
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
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- He/Him
Ummm, yeah....
If it melts to become free moving and stronger..
You really should have started with freezing it.
Have none of you seen The Blob? Or The Thing?
Points for good use of the morgue instead of trying to keep it in a cell though!
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Side note, do the British wizards even know what they are wiping the memories of?
And if so, are they actually doing anything?
I feel like the police are being more effective and proactive honestly.
If it melts to become free moving and stronger..
You really should have started with freezing it.
Have none of you seen The Blob? Or The Thing?
Points for good use of the morgue instead of trying to keep it in a cell though!
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Side note, do the British wizards even know what they are wiping the memories of?
And if so, are they actually doing anything?
I feel like the police are being more effective and proactive honestly.
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An important question: Have you seen what they actually do in the HP books proper?
Because I recall very little competence on the part of their Gov.
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- San Ramon, CA
I'm sorry, everyone in this room apparently knows that we are dealing with shape-shifting aliens, and Goro here thinks all the policemen that have died or been pre-aged or injured were just wusses? And other officers are willing to laugh along? What a bunch of asses!
Ah, the Sailor V expert! Looks like Attention's going to go up a lot one way or another. Hopefully, she'll be able to convince the rest of the police force to actually listen to the teenagers in sailor fuku outfits.
...Anime experts, to your stations! I want to know what crossovers we're dealing with here!
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Definitely sounds like Harry Potter, not Anime.
Most of what we saw of the magical government had more to do with political jostling of Dark Lord sympathizers/former members and Dumbledore's group with a shockingly noncommittal government trapped in between the two that figured as long as it didn't acknowledge the problem, it wouldn't be a problem.An important question: Have you seen what they actually do in the HP books proper?
Because I recall very little competence on the part of their Gov.
While this says a lot about what the government's stance in directing their departments is likely to be, we honestly don't see the Aurors in action enough to know how effective they really are or are not. I suppose the other question we would have to ask is what Dumbledore's reaction to this likely be? My guess is he'd suspect either the rise of a new Dark Lord or Voldemort's return.
Edit: Not sure what he'd actually do about it. It would likely depend on how much information he had on the subject currently, so probably start by trying to figure out what he's dealing with and double up on keeping an ear out for You Know Who.
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Isn't there a magic school in Japan? I know it's famous for its sports.
I think regarding the timeline, Harry should be in his early years at Hogwarts.
I think regarding the timeline, Harry should be in his early years at Hogwarts.
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Right, 1992 means this is during Chamber of Secrets. This means the 2nd War with Voldemort hasn't started yet.