" 'In time, the truth of Legend is lost, becoming Myth, before being reinterpreted entirely'. One of the things Ami mentioned was the idea that like, All of the gods of Greek myth were probably real people." Usagi starts to explain, a statement that simply causes Makoto to raise an eyebrow. "And that like... They met on the actual Olympus Mons, the biggest mountain in the entire solar system on... Mars? I think? And that they were like the Diet of the Solar System or something!"
Well, at least it was just a case of well, bad word choice and well, the very large lack of information we have, and well, don't think Usagi actually has a lot of information on how things generally are done, except maybe the parts those on top could have...
And well, no-one really knows which 'myths' might have been linked to the silver millennium. 🤷‍♂️
 
@Lunaryon

Question: how versatile is Luna's teleportation capability? Can she access that teleporter to send herself from an arbitrary location to another arbitrary location? Or does she need to physically go to the site of the teleporter and beam herself to wherever she wants to go?

Whoops I forgot to open the vote
To be fair, barring a really big sea change in the thread's opinion, I suspect this vote is pretty well decided and you might as well start planning the next update here and now. The vote is 20-0 in favor of hitting the Cinderella Caravan's headquarters immediately, though I suspect people might potentially differ on details like "so, leave Naru behind or bring her along in a bridal carry," since she's functionally a noncombatant still.
 
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@Lunaryon

Question: how versatile is Luna's teleportation capability? Can she access that teleporter to send herself from an arbitrary location to another arbitrary location? Or does she need to physically go to the site of the teleporter and beam herself to wherever she wants to go?

To be fair, barring a really big sea change in the thread's opinion, I suspect this vote is pretty well decided and you might as well start planning the next update here and now. The vote is 20-0 in favor of hitting the Cinderella Caravan's headquarters immediately, though I suspect people might potentially differ on details like "so, leave Naru behind or bring her along in a bridal carry," since she's functionally a noncombatant still.
The Teleportation spell is able to appear anywhere directly out of view of any sentient within a certain radius of runes placed though the city. Luna has been spending a lot of time over the last couple of weeks while she hasn't had focus setting up more of these runes
 
The Teleportation spell is able to appear anywhere directly out of view of any sentient within a certain radius of runes placed though the city. Luna has been spending a lot of time over the last couple of weeks while she hasn't had focus setting up more of these runes
Good kitty sorceress familiar ally. Very good kitty sorceress familiar ally. We should do something nice for her.

Can she cast the spell from an arbitrary location, from an arbitrary location within the "service radius" of her rune network, or only from a specific short list of location(s)?
 
...is this Jadeite's idea of a joke?

Didn't he at one point go around using the alias Jay Dite? Dude ain't exactly subtle.

Sailors Moon, Mercury, and Mars were sufficient to inflict final defeat on Jadeite on a prepared battlefield of his choosing in Episode 13 from what I understand.

No they didn't. They ran him over with an airplane, but he survived. Beryl was just sick of his repeated failures(apparently one of the yonma killed during his operations was one of her favorites?), and trapped him in crystal despite Jadeite learning the civilian identiies of the scouts.
 
I have spent like most of today trying to figure out what kind of Advisor bonuses to give to Makoto...

So far the idea that has come up is the idea that on every even turn she has a chance of increasing Usagi's Martial as the Trainer bonus...
 
Didn't he at one point go around using the alias Jay Dite? Dude ain't exactly subtle.

I decided to believe it's the fault of Metallia's/Beryll's brainwashing.

Otherwise Endymion should be ashamed of THIS having been one of his most trusted protectors.
No they didn't. They ran him over with an airplane, but he survived. Beryl was just sick of his repeated failures(apparently one of the yonma killed during his operations was one of her favorites?), and trapped him in crystal despite Jadeite learning the civilian identiies of the scouts.

Don't you love it when the villains sabotage themselves? :V
 
Didn't he at one point go around using the alias Jay Dite? Dude ain't exactly subtle.



No they didn't. They ran him over with an airplane, but he survived. Beryl was just sick of his repeated failures(apparently one of the yonma killed during his operations was one of her favorites?), and trapped him in crystal despite Jadeite learning the civilian identiies of the scouts.

Wow, I forgot how cartoonishly inefficient the Dark Kingdom is. Oh well, at least it should make our job easier.
 
Didn't he at one point go around using the alias Jay Dite? Dude ain't exactly subtle.



No they didn't. They ran him over with an airplane, but he survived. Beryl was just sick of his repeated failures(apparently one of the yonma killed during his operations was one of her favorites?), and trapped him in crystal despite Jadeite learning the civilian identiies of the scouts.
Though in the manga, Mars alone was enough to straight-up burn him to death.
 
Of course, That all depends on whether or not Usagi is right in thinking that the Dynasty Konnections is in fact a Dark Kingdom plot or not
 
We know where to hit them, there's a chance we can break the spell with the Youma's death, we can still hit all victims with Stardust on Sunday if the spell doesn't break, and they're not expecting us.

Let's do this.

[x] [Cinder] Go Now, try and find the Demon and stop them now
 
No they didn't. They ran him over with an airplane, but he survived. Beryl was just sick of his repeated failures(apparently one of the yonma killed during his operations was one of her favorites?), and trapped him in crystal despite Jadeite learning the civilian identiies of the scouts.
I mean, I didn't say they killed him. But it was defeat, and it was final. He was done.

Again, I didn't say they killed him, but they kicked his ass pretty good. And again, that was in a pitched battle where if I recall correctly, he had mooks, backup, and a chance to prepare the terrain ahead of time, in the full knowledge that if he failed, Beryl was gonna do something horrible to him. I'm pretty sure that represents a maximum effort on his part, in other words. Under no circumstances would I expect him to be much more formidable than that, unless he just plain had a lot more resources to muster for the battle than he did at the airport.

My basic point is simply that with Sailor Moon, Sailor Mercury (plus some better offense spells), and Sailor Jupiter, I'm reasonably confident we can handle Jadeite in anything other than a well-prepared trap scenario.

I have spent like most of today trying to figure out what kind of Advisor bonuses to give to Makoto...

So far the idea that has come up is the idea that on every even turn she has a chance of increasing Usagi's Martial as the Trainer bonus...
That's honestly pretty realistic?

I decided to believe it's the fault of Metallia's/Beryll's brainwashing.

Otherwise Endymion should be ashamed of THIS having been one of his most trusted protectors.
Endymion may not have hand-picked his personal guards for high Intrigue scores? :p

Wow, I forgot how cartoonishly inefficient the Dark Kingdom is. Oh well, at least it should make our job easier.
The flip side of that is that they've shown signs of being more numerous than in canon (they had six youma at the cram school; in canon Moon and Mercury only fought one). And they're keeping up a higher operational tempo than in canon, or seem to be. They're running like... ten plots, most of them more or less concurrently, whereas in canon there seemed to be only a few going at a time.

Furthermore, they're under a lot more operational pressure. Because they're being harassed by the police and periodically attacked by Inuyasha, plus while Pretty Cure seems to be mostly preoccupied with their own villains they're still operating in the same general area, and while Jadeite may not know what the hell that rainbow beam is I think it's safe to say he does NOT want to get clocked by it.
 
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Of course, That all depends on whether or not Usagi is right in thinking that the Dynasty Konnections is in fact a Dark Kingdom plot or not
..it would be a nice twist if Jadeite simply convinced its leader to adopt that name as a way to possibly distract the police/senshi/his enemies.

It would also have everyone underestimate him..

I mean, Endymion may not have hand-picked his personal guards for high Intrigue scores? :p
or maybe he didn't really handpick them at all.

He was, after all, a prince, not a king. Or was prince the highest title in Elysion?

..Ehi, was anything ever shown/told about his parents? We WERE told a bit about Queen Serenity after all (though nothing about her husband.. which I suppose makes sense. Sailor Moon never really gave much attention to its male characters, except for maybe Mamoru)
 
..it would be a nice twist if Jadeite simply convinced its leader to adopt that name as a way to possibly distract the police/senshi/his enemies.

It would also have everyone underestimate him..
Yeah. We should at least remain open to the possibility that our "probably-Jadeite" is actually just some poor human schmuck brainwashed into a decoy role.

On the other hand, the first point I made when I started doing enemy analysis of Jadeite stands:

He's hands-on. Was personally involved in a lot of the plots in the opening phase of Season 1. Sailor Moon ran into him several times, if not in any of the specific plots we've already blown up.

If it's him in charge, and we have at least circumstantial evidence it is (since the sleeping sickness radio plot from Episode 3 is active)... We should expect to encounter him if we keep tearing into his plots. Our streak of not seeing him probably can't last much longer.
 
If it's him in charge, and we have at least circumstantial evidence it is (since the sleeping sickness radio plot from Episode 3 is active)... We should expect to encounter him if we keep tearing into his plots. Our streak of not seeing him probably can't last much longer.
at least we got our third senshi, probably the strongest of the first 4 for the short-medium term.

And we're not that far from getting Mars as well. I imagine we're going to try and pursue the disappearing bus operation next turn after all, so who knows.. and maybe, just maybe, we could even recruit Akane, and through her the Ranma cast.

...on that note, getting some martial art training from the Ranma cast could very well help us a lot. Martial arts are not magic, but they could probably synergize pretty well, at least until we reach reality-warping levels of power... I wonder if Luna can tell us more about it, and about how high can martial arts "peak".
 
Again, I feel I must emphasize, they ran him over with an airplane.
I concede that he's a ridiculously tanky opponent compared to what we've dealt with so far- got anti-magic deflector shields or whatever, plus some measure of that good old youma durability. He won't be going down easily, and probably not at all, in our first couple of encounters- sort of like an evil bastard opposite of Tuxedo Mask, if you will.

But when I say "we can handle him," I don't mean "we can kill him." That would be ridiculously far out into stretch-goal territory. I mean "if we get into a fight with him it's unlikely to end with the Sailor Scouts imprisoned or dead at his hands, because we've brought enough muscle that he can't bulldoze over us."

I'd be a lot more anxious about going into what I expect the Shapelin Gym to be like tomorrow, or what Cinderella Caravan headquarters might be like tonight, for instance, if it were just Sailor Moon going in alone. Because of, essentially, that concern- Jadeite is a tougher problem than I'd want to confront with only one combat-effective Sailor Scout, especially if he brings muscle.

at least we got our third senshi, probably the strongest of the first 4 for the short-medium term.

And we're not that far from getting Mars as well. I imagine we're going to try and pursue the disappearing bus operation next turn after all, so who knows.. and maybe, just maybe, we could even recruit Akane, and through her the Ranma cast.
My impression is that the crossovers with the Ranma cast, or anyone else, are likely to mostly be "at a distance-" that is, they end up tangentially involved when they happen to get involved in our plots (as Akane is likely to end up involved this time). We may be on the same side, we may even be able to call on them for help at some point, but we're not going to be doing a merger.

...on that note, getting some martial art training from the Ranma cast could very well help us a lot. Martial arts are not magic, but they could probably synergize pretty well, at least until we reach reality-warping levels of power... I wonder if Luna can tell us more about it, and about how high can martial arts "peak".
Well, right now no one on the team except Sailor Jupiter is a proficient enough martial artist to need a martial arts trainer better than, ah... Sailor Jupiter.

What she does if she wishes to get better at it, I dunno. She's clearly pretty well plugged into the dojo scene up in northern Tokyo (in and around Nerima), so I figure she can make her own decisions on that front.
 
No they didn't. They ran him over with an airplane, but he survived. Beryl was just sick of his repeated failures(apparently one of the yonma killed during his operations was one of her favorites?), and trapped him in crystal despite Jadeite learning the civilian identiies of the scouts.
That would be Tethys, his partner for the cruise ship plot (which I think was the canon plot Simon_Jester called "unaccounted for" a few pages ago). The subtitled version that I saw included a line that she reported directly to Beryl (in other words, Tethys was not one of Jadeite's own subordinates).

I don't remember the exact episode number (although I do remember that subtitle version included at least two complete episodes that the dub dropped, and those were among the first five, so they won't agree anyway), but I do remember that Rei / Mars was involved by that point.

...on that note, getting some martial art training from the Ranma cast could very well help us a lot. Martial arts are not magic, but they could probably synergize pretty well, at least until we reach reality-warping levels of power... I wonder if Luna can tell us more about it, and about how high can martial arts "peak".
Well, right now no one on the team except Sailor Jupiter is a proficient enough martial artist to need a martial arts trainer better than, ah... Sailor Jupiter.

What she does if she wishes to get better at it, I dunno. She's clearly pretty well plugged into the dojo scene up in northern Tokyo (in and around Nerima), so I figure she can make her own decisions on that front.

I vaguely remember at least one crossover where the Hero Women tribe was a remnant of the Silver Millennium (I don't remember the title anymore, sorry), and if that's true here it should be fairly easy to get Cologne on board (then again, I vaguely remember a different crossover where they worshiped Beryl as a goddess, which would make a meeting between us and her . . . messy, although probably only marginally more messy than usual for that place).

Anyway, barring severe pre-existing complications or a crit fail (like the one we had with Makoto just now), it should be fairly easy to bring Cologne on board, and I suspect that our scores would grow much more quickly with Cologne's lessons than whatever Makoto can improvise.

Considering vote options:
Consensus so far is heading toward attacking now.

Pros:
> Chance that whatever youma is involved this time is "load bearing" (in other words, continuously maintaining the spell).
> Chance that the brainwashing is being continuously maintained by an artifact (likely the chimes set) and will end if we can disenchant or wreck it (the jowelry store plot used a network of items that each met this description regarding their respective targets, and if I recall correctly a single artifact of this type was involved in at least the canon cruise ship plot).
> If our raid works, the talent show probably won't happen, derailing this particular Dark Kingdom plot.
> Chance of breaking the brainwashing on other people that have been pulled into helping the Cinderella contest.
> Likely to be several youma there, but at this point we can kill standard youma for fun and profit.

Cons:
> High chance of encountering Jadeite (mitigated by a reasonable expectation that the three of us can chase him off).
> If we do encounter Jadeite and fail to capture, kill, or unbrainwash him (which looks likely), he is likely to bring a lot of extra muscle to the talent show itself (much more than he otherwise would).
> Depending on exactly how wrecked the place is when we're done, Jadeite might decide to see what he can do about accelerating the time table, or just drain the contestants a lot faster and with a lot less regard for accidental deaths than usual.
> If we encounter Jadeite and successfully capture, kill, or unbrainwash him, the Dark Kingdom as a whole is very likely to escalate (in canon, Nephrite was the next to step up, and his operational style is very different from Jadeite's).

Overall, I think the most likely outcome is that we encounter Jadeite and force him to run off (provoking an escalation, but not to the degree that a more comprehensive defeat would).

[x] [Cinder] Go Now, try and find the Demon and stop them now
 
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