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Speaking of, how do you people think Stannis will react to this?
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Nah; he's just a middle child so his crazy gets overlooked, just like the rest of his life.
Probably by sending out a call for the nearest wizard with experience in dental surgery to replace his teeth.
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How would you react if your brother was replaced with a changeling and said brother was being groomed to be the next Fey king of the Star Court with the sole design of taking over the Seven Kingdoms through blood and enslaving the entirety of the Seven Kingdoms in a narrative play?
Goldfish
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Stannis: "I have the strangest urge to call this...Tuesday? What in the gods' name is Tuesday?"
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Crake
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Can I sig this?
So just to clarify when everyone is saying the CoS was going to enslave or mind control the Reach is that just people exaggerating or something more?
I ask because my understanding was that the CoS was just going to make the Reach operate under discworld esque narrative logic only played deadly serious rather than for laughs, and I would like to know if I am missing something or not.
I ask because my understanding was that the CoS was just going to make the Reach operate under discworld esque narrative logic only played deadly serious rather than for laughs, and I would like to know if I am missing something or not.
Crake
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Stannis is not what I would call particularly well adjusted.Nah; he's just a middle child so his crazy gets overlooked, just like the rest of his life.
He is the most stubborn man in Westeros. See, some people exaggerate stubbornness as intractable during an argument or whatever, but Stannis takes the whole concept and applies it to every aspect of his life. I mean, I am just staring at the trainwreck that is the Baratheon Bros' life so far and I can just observe this stuff off the top of my head:
Robert:
1) Willing to drink himself into an early grave despite and maybe especially because he has magic to heal the liver damage away.
2) Wants to treat a war with Viserys like the Trident Round 2 Electric Boogaloo, showing a tenuous grasp on reality for a guy who claims to have the same dream of crushing Rhaegar's chest in like a tin can every night.
2.1) Viserys who would just turn him into a briquette if they ever fought from several hundred feet away. Or trap him in amber. Or into a turtle. Or crush with black tentacles... or literally a million better options than 1v1 melee.
3) Has a wife who is probably the biggest shrew and prideful lady in Westeros, publicly sleeps with someone who resembles her to taunt them anyway.
4) Punishes Stannis repeatedly (fail to capture kids? Dragonstone for you. Can't beat the Ironborn without losing a leg? A little public humiliation. Failed to capture or kill THE SAME KIDS?! Leaves you to rot in a prison cell. All for, what in hindsight, things that were never his fault. One begins to wonder... At least until--
Stannis:
1) None of the above would have dissuaded Stannis from serving Robert loyally. It's like... c'mon dude.
2) What it actually took to be convinced that abandoning Robert's cause was the right thing to do was someone being a decent person to him in all aspects of interaction, combined with being literally the best person for the job. That implies Stannis' standards are probably as high as Viserys', and with a lot less slack in the rope to climb there.
2.1) It implies that few people actually treat Stannis decently. Probably because he always tells the truth, no matter how unpleasant it is to hear.
3) Tells the truth when asked about why he failed, gets mocked and ignored, and continues doing even more risky things for the people who derided him. Because "am stubborn, must duty".
4) Would probably tell the Void, Abyss and Hell to fuck off if they tried to tempt him over to the dark side / despair, not even after thinking about it first, but reflexively because they thought they could get him to abandon his duty.
Literally everyone else would at least have to make a Will save.
Renly:
1) Takes a deal with fairies with godlike power because of a broken heart.
2) Is actually surprised when the people he puts his trust in actually care more about their own ambitions more than him, even though they're unrepentant schemers who nearly starved him to death.
... I can't actually think of at least two more things for Renly yet, he hasn't been on screen much. I'm sure I'll find other ways to point out how very not well adjusted he is in the next dozen updates or so.
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Everything about the Fey would make Stannis grind his teeth to powder.
Which means, of course, that we must do it.
He could have meant Robert's bastards?
Crake
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These guys aren't tainted by the Baratheon boys' craziness yet.
Let them develop their own brand of crazy independent from them.
Evaunit02mark1
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Feel free.
I mean that was basically it, it's just that from a DnD perspective there is no narrative logic, so them making it would require either a forced magical lobotomy on a massive scale or a complete overhaul of the local physics to the point where it gives a forced magical lobotomy on a massive scale.
In order for their plan to work they had to enslave the will of the populace because if one pig farmer decides that raising some strange kid literally thrown at him out the blue is too much for him to deal with then that throws off the whole play and we cant have that happen.
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So it would be something like this
Those are the WOG on the matter. There could be more but it's what I could find.
So it would be something like this
Those are the WOG on the matter. There could be more but it's what I could find.
Thanks for the quotes, I really appreciate it.
consequences
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Brettonia in fact being intensely fucking awful if you don't buy into ever so glorious stasis for the benefit of your overlords, I can't regret the thread killing the hell out of them.
Do you remember how half of the population with magical potential gets taken away to be brainwashed into perpetuating the regime, while the other half just gets taken away never to be seen again? Well too bad, your fey overlords think you shouldn't be troubled with those thoughts, so they have to go.
Do you remember how half of the population with magical potential gets taken away to be brainwashed into perpetuating the regime, while the other half just gets taken away never to be seen again? Well too bad, your fey overlords think you shouldn't be troubled with those thoughts, so they have to go.
Crake
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Silly, those aren't real people.
At least, according to the Fey.
Goldfish
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Just ephemeral bits of fluff, unimportant background characters necessary only as filler for their Story.
Court of Stars: "Exactly!"
Ok so going by the quotes the issue here seems to be less that the Fae were going full Tamlin and more they were going to calcify the existing social structure through metaphysical means. Which TBF is perfectly reasonable grounds to kill the CoS, because feudalism, no matter how glossy or how righteous your rulers, still sucks (which IMO is the entire point of Bretonnia from 6ed onward in WHFB). This is not even touching any issues coming from how they would enforce their feudal regime on a metaphysical level.
Though now I am curious as to what the precise effects of the CoS plan going through would be on a day to day level. Would it be a penalty for people acting out against their given role? Greater difficulty in gaining XP for everyone who was not a "protagonist?" Would there be a geas on people to act their role? Or would something more esoteric be in play?
Now that the CoS is dead do you guys think Dragon Paradox might be willing to establish what he had planned if the ritual had gone through?
Though now I am curious as to what the precise effects of the CoS plan going through would be on a day to day level. Would it be a penalty for people acting out against their given role? Greater difficulty in gaining XP for everyone who was not a "protagonist?" Would there be a geas on people to act their role? Or would something more esoteric be in play?
Now that the CoS is dead do you guys think Dragon Paradox might be willing to establish what he had planned if the ritual had gone through?
I sort of assumed that they were going to use their high detail control of the environment to effectively take control of nurture half of nature v. nurture and effectively sculpt people into roles for their stories.
Sure you get free will and all, but from the moment of your birth someone's been arranging the stage around you to drive you in a particular direction. The "random" encounters, the misunderstandings, the first impressions that define relationships, all of it being used as a trellis for the mind.
If your job is to be a NPC pig farmer then life conspires to make leaving that position almost impossible. If you're supposed to be the villain then they'll send you tragedies to make you into one. If you're to be the love interest for the intrepid hero you'll have to content yourself to no other relationship ever quite working out until you meet the one chosen for you.
That way the CoS fey can always play the "I'm not touching you" game with culpability for their actions.
I'm definitely interested in hearing what they'd have actually done as well though.