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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Kinda don't want Cersei to kill Robert. Wouldn't Viserys dying by Viserys make Viserys rule be unquestionable? Like don't we want some type of resistance?

Edit: Didn't we make a promise to Pycelle?
 
Smartphone said:
[X] More Diplomacy! More Invasion! Also, some regicide!

Sounds good! I was under the impression that the regulars had put together a plan to have Vary's fake body blow up at a small council meeting with Pycelle being the sole survivor, but I am guessing that was not what was decided on.
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Nothing was set in stone, some of us were simply partial to a Varys bomb plan. A Cersei murder plan is equally fine, so long as we manage to publicize all aspects of it.
 
Goldfish said:
A Shadowforged Mind Blank for Dalla would stop her from being directly Scryed upon and targeted by the Lannisters. Since she's our agent in this, we should at least provide her with that much protection.
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Right. Forgot to add that.
Now she gets one.
CandyCoatedChaos said:
No chance of some accidental translocation of a small Lannister army to just outside Highgarden when everyone has found out what sides are with who?

I just really want us to be able to use the phrase your raven must have gotten lost or been shot down.

Hell make it 2 or 3 Lannister armies... I wouldn't mind us saying that raven phrase a couple times.
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I for one will be quite happy when the Tyrells never again make a sound in our vicinity after all the trouble of cleaning up after their little dalliance with the Fey.

Just one word from Olenna or Mace, and they will be given a shovel to clean up the literal mountain of demon innards.
 
mrsean22 said:
Kinda don't want Cersei to kill Robert. Wouldn't Viserys dying by Viserys make Viserys rule be unquestionable? Like don't we want some type of resistance?

Edit: Didn't we make a promise to Pycelle?
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Pycelle would be out of the line of fire, dude. He's getting a retirement villa in Sorcerer's Deep, or the Summer Islands if he prefers that.
 
Azel said:
Right. Forgot to add that.
Now she gets one.

I for one will be quite happy when the Tyrells never again make a sound in our vicinity after all the trouble of cleaning up after their little dalliance with the Fey.

Just one word from Olenna or Mace, and they will be given a shovel to clean up the literal mountain of demon innards.
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So in other words... Start plotting a vote to get Viserys within ear shot of Mace because gods, you know he will be able to say something. And I wouldn't give them the shovel... A dead raven will suffice to clean that mountain.
 
Azel said:
Hey. This is just the... third? Yes, third! It's just the third time we did this!

That's not a pattern at all!

What even makes you think that we kill our political enemies? And no, the pile of corpses I'm standing on is not relevant to that discussion at all!
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I'm making a bingo card as we speak, worry not.
 
Azel said:
Now, that is unfair. We have always stuck to the letter of our deals.
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And surprisingly to the spirit more often than not.

Though until we sign something we can change circunstances to favor us in negotiations.

"Oh that? I deal with that issue earlier, you need some other bargaining chip for this."
 
Viserys always been good with keeping his promises even going with the spirit of the deal. This reputation really helped Viserys in a few situations.
 
I know this has literally no chance of working but eh gotta try, I like everything in Azel's vote except the blame the Lannister parts as that will likely end up involving using Cersei so will try and offer that second voting option that is literally all Azel except the just Say No to Cersei!


[ ] More Diplomacy! More Invasion! No Cersei!
-[ ] Diplomacy
--[ ] Have Roderick the Reader start the diplomatic efforts to organize a secret Kingsmoot in the Iron Isles in the middle of the 4th month. Justification would be Roderick seeing the need for a clear and strong leadership of the Iron Isles, since Westeros is visibly coming apart at the seams these days, and the secrecy being necessary to prevent foreign meddling.
--[ ] Have your Riverlander collaborators try to nudge Hoster Tully to leave Riverrun with a small contingent of loyal knights to support Lysa Arryn, as raising the banners in the current situation will be all but impossible and might cause so much chaos that he can't help her at all, leaving Riverrun in the capable hands of Edmure Tully.
-[ ] Invasion
--[ ] Ask Dalla to scout for a well-hidden valley near the Bloody Gate that can be used as a staging ground for a Darkenbeast company.
---[ ] From now until the end of the invasion, loan her a shadowforged mindblank ring.
--[ ] Ask Doran Martell to look for a well-hidden valley in the Red Mountains that can be used as a staging ground for a Darkenbeast company to attack the Marcher Lords.
--[ ] Send a team of engineers to assess the state of Harrenhall and to make plans on how it can be rapidly refurbished with Titan Tools to serve as a major base for the Legion and the Airforce.
-[ ] Far reaching things:
--[ ] Tell Bloodraven that Robert Baratheon has also outlived his usefulness. kill him in a way that does not seem like an assassination from us nor the Queen, we have plans for those Lannisters.
--[ ] Announce your coronation for the 30th of the 4th month.

Edit: To clarify in no way am I wanting the Lannisters to be saved, incest kept secret etc etc. I just don't want there to be any chance that Cersei even gets to have that minute satisfaction of seeing Bobby fall to her poison or be shanked by her.

If Bobby can be killed by Jamie and all revealed, gravy. Or if he dies from some random servant and afterwards the incest comes out via Pycelle or Varys or whatever that works too.

Just say no to making Cersei feel good! You don't want her to be happy right? Getting to kill Bobby makes her happy.
 
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Azel said:
My plans for those Lannisters involve either an unmarked ditch or a dustpan.
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I agree their deaths are the plan, just don't want Cersei in any way getting any credit for Bobby's death even if she dies 5 seconds later.

Honestly would prefer if we could get Cersei and Jamie and execute them in front of Casterly rock and show Tywin that his killing babies routine has led to his line's ruin. Unlikely that's gonna happen so will settle for Cersei just dying without in any way offing Bobby. Hell i'd accept Jamie killing Bobby, Kingslayer twice would be a nice end of the Lannisters.
 
@DragonParadox , you must give us an interlude about Robert's death.

@Azel, with Robert being dead, and the Lannisters exposed as traitorous kingslayers... again. Would it be time to tell the world about the incest? I mean, with all their leadership either dead or openly declared treasonous... who would fight us, besides the Lannisters? Do we actually want the loyalists to rally behind young Justin Bieber as king?
 
Tomcost said:
@DragonParadox , you must give us an interlude about Robert's death.

@Azel, with Robert being dead, and the Lannisters exposed as traitorous kingslayers... again. Would it be time to tell the world about the incest? I mean, with all their leadership either dead or openly declared treasonous... who would fight us, besides the Lannisters? Do we actually want the loyalists to rally behind young Justin Bieber as king?
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We have enough people on the small council that we can reveal the incest without even letting anyone know its from us I.e the enemy.

I'd prefer instead of Azel's plan where it most likely will end up using Cersei as a patsy to kill Robert, to use anyone other then her.

Incest etc could still be revealed to destroy them and really rub it into the Lannisters faces. I just don't want to make Cersei happy. And her killing Bobby even if it screws them over it makes her happy for a second. Me no want.

Plenty of Lannisters can be used to kill the king, even if Jamie isn't used must be some pages or something around... All the blame none of the happy Cersei.
 
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CandyCoatedChaos said:
We have enough people on the small council that we can reveal the incest without even letting anyone know its from us I.e the enemy.

I'd prefer instead of Azel's plan where it most likely will end up using Cersei as a patsy to kill Robert, to use anyone other then her.

Incest etc could still be revealed to destroy them and really rub it into the Lannisters faces. I just don't want to make Cersei happy. And her killing Bobby even if it screws them over it makes her happy for a second. Me no want.
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Yeah, no. I don't care for the happiness of someone who will end up in the Pit upon death. Let her have it, she will be a maggot eating the filth of the metaphysical asshole of the universe soon.
 
Tomcost said:
Yeah, no. I don't care for the happiness of someone who will end up in the Pit upon death. Let her have it, she will be a maggot eating the filth of the metaphysical asshole of the universe soon.
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Except for the no, everything you said made me get the warm and fuzzies, its what she deserves. I just want her to keep being miserable until she gets there.

I guess she has never done something personally enough for Viserys to hijack her soul when she dies and really put her somewhere even worse for her eternal suffering. I mean maggot eating filth is great, it really is. I feel as a community we can think up something worse for her though, just not IC for Viserys to go through all that work for the Lannister bitch.
 
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