A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Azel · Sep 30, 2020

egoo said:
You imply we start attacking it next month with hastily-grown armies of Undead (we can afford to, I guess), or just throwing general strategy out there for later?

I am tempted to start setting up forward bases in the forest, both to keep a closer eye on things and as staging grounds for further actions.
But let's be clear here, that would be shitting all over the sovereignty of Qohor as a state and might trigger retaliation.

If we want to do this, it should be coupled with setting up Inquisition outposts in the two provinces.

egoo · Sep 30, 2020

Questions on the, otherwise egoo-satisfying, turnvote:

egoo said:
[] The Swamps Dried
(Progress 29/40) (Each PC granted 1d6 Progress; the Heralds (4x) Granted 2d6 together due to flight and combat power; the Nagas (5x) another 2d6)
----[] Relath; Mercy of the Soul; Kennos of Kayce; Argo the Cunning Bull; Sandor Clegane; Mors 'Crowfood' Umber; Ser Gerold 'Darkstar' Dayne; Ser Bonifer Hasty; Jeyne Weaver; Roger Reyne; 4x Heralds; 10x Guardian Nagas;

----[] is awkward mechanically compared to narratively.
We can send a large group and count on them doing the things needed to clear the swamps and staying safe, but they incredibly overshoot the Progress if we assume previous month's Progress values not changing.
Question is then: Do we try to assign some of these people elsewhere? Most are there because can't into sneak and Slavers' Bay, nor useful in killing CoS.

egoo said:
[] Operation Starfall: After months of work invested into finding ways to sow disunity within the Court of Stars or to gain diplomatic leverage, you stand without having found any amount of success in either endeavor. More worryingly, it has become evident that the Fey possess much more combat power then expected and could spell disaster for the conquest of Westeros, if not the Imperium as a whole. They are a threat that needs to be dealt with and due to gentle means being unsuccessful and the time running out, drastic steps have to be taken.
-[] Part 0 - Snare preparations and continues summoning:
--[] Using diamond dust, the Snare will be enhanced with Permanent Symbols of Blinding (2,000 IM) and Vulnerability (5,000 IM) that have been password protected to allow our personnel to avoid being affected by their effects.
--[] In her Half-Celestial form, Dany will use her Hallow spell-like ability with a linked Resist Energy (Acid) spell to create a ward against Acid damage that will extend from the inner edge of the Summoning Circle to the walls of the Snare Chamber itself, protecting everyone and everything within the effect with 30 Acid Resistance. The Summoning Circle itself will remain under the effects of a Hallow spell with a linked Dimensional Anchor effect.
--[] The security of the Snare itself will be further enhanced by a Permanent 30th level Lost Locale spell (DC 33 Will save, 40th level to overcome Spell Resistance) using diamond dust (14,000 IM). The spell will affect the entire island which houses the Snare.
--[] The shaft beneath the Summoning Circle will be temporarily sealed, the floor of the circle will be sheathed in a 1/4 inch thick layer of Adamantine (6.5 cubic feet of Adamantine spread over the 315 square feet of the 20 foot diameter circle, 190,710 IM value), and an immense steel vat sufficient to contain a Gargantuan-sized Stone Pudding will be placed within it, taking up the entire available floor space of the circle. Viserys, working alongside Lya, will use a 30th level Hardening spell to raise the Hardness of the Adamantine to 35 and the steel to 25.
---[] A special order Stone Pudding will be grown in the Flesh Forge, augmented to be immobile but gifted with the Advanced and Giant templates, along with 16 additional Racial Hit Dice. This will be a CR 15 creation and will cost 28,800 IM, but will increase the Fortitude saving throw DC of the Stone Pudding's Petrifying Touch from 21 to 32.
----[] The special order Stone Pudding will be contained within the Hardened steel vat occupying the Summoning Circle so that it will be in immediate physical contact with each Summoned Brimorak, forcing it to make a DC 32 Fortitude saving throw to avoid being Petrified. Even if it resists, it will be stuck within the Summoning Circle and forced to continue making saves each round to avoid Petrification.
--[] Using the Summoner's Circle of Lesser Planar Binding, a team of mages will work to continually Summon Brimorak Demons, one every 10 minutes, throughout the 3rd month. Each Summoning attempt will have a 70% chance of successfully overcoming the Will save of a random Brimorak, meaning that an average of 100 Brimoraks will be Summoned of the potential 144 on a daily basis. Over a 30 day period, this should result in the Summoning of 3,000 Brimorak Demons (18,000 combined HD).
---[] The Summoner's Circle of Lesser Planar Binding is a three foot diameter ring of Mithral engraved with runes of Conjuration and Summoning which. When linked to a prepared Summoning Circle, it allows the user standing or sitting within it to use the Lesser Planar Binding spell to Summon and Outsider with no more than 6 HD as often as once per 10 minutes. Outsiders Summoned in this manner can resist the effect with a DC 17 Will saving throw.
---[] A Herald will remove the Petrified Brimoraks from the Stone Pudding's vat before they can be catastrophically damaged by the Ooze's powerful acid. The Petrified Brimorak will then be moved to where another Herald is set up alongside our Shrink Item Chamber. For the first several days of the month, a Herald will use the Shrink Item Chamber to reduce each Petrified Brimorak to a more easily stored size. It will switch over to the more powerful Advanced Shrink Item Chamber when it is completed. The Chambers will be used as often as necessary to keep all Petrified Brimoraks shrunken, until they are needed for sacrifice.
----[] Guards:
-----[] Inside the Snare: Mereth, 8x Erinyes, 4x Heralds, 8x Glass Golems, 4x Vigilant Briars, 4x Blood Clot Molds, 4x Black Brutes, 2x Greater Blood Clot Molds, 2x Black Champions, 1x Adult Mind Dragon
-----[] Outside the Snare: Balerion, 8x Fiery Dragonbeasts, 24x Erinyes, 6x Heralds, 12x Glass Golems, 16x Vigilant Briars, 6x Blood Clot Molds, 6x Black Brutes
-[] Part 1 - Holding Action: Resume your current efforts, even though you know them to be futile, so that your enemies are not alerted to the change of tactics. Let your people spy on Fey gathering, subvert minor, unaligned courts and interfere with the CoS' attempts to make pacts with Reacher lords.
--[] Spy on CoS and combat minor Dark Fey: 1x Orphne Fey Lord, 4x Wild Hunt Archers (Mounted) [CR 14], 2x Wild Hunt Scouts (Houndmaster Hounds x3) [CR 16], Osryx (Very Old Myrkdreki), 6x Verdant Phoenixes, 10x Guardian Nagas, 5x Heralds
--[] Find and subvert minor courts: Glyra + Feytroupe, Liomond Lashare, Ser Dregaire, Dirriz the Faerie Dragon, Vrath the Serpentfolk Hexblade, 1x Asura Upasunda (CR 9), 4x Asura Vayphaks (CR 5), Azema
--[] Spy on and subvert Reacher nobles: Alyssa Crowl, Danar Crowl, Ser Aubert Flowers, Velen, Xor, 2x Adult Mind Dragons, The Misfits
--[] Reserve & Aid: 25x Plant-Imbued Shadow Creature Cat (w/+4 Racial HD) (CR 6, 6 HD), 1x Falxugon, 1x Gancanagh (CR 4) - Garantos, 22x Legion Devils, 4x Salikotal / Vengeance Devil
-[] Part 2 - Prepare the Great Sacrifice: Under utmost secrecy, prepare a great sacrifice ritual to the Old Gods, R'hllor, the Ferryman and Yss to use the Crown of Flowers as a conduit to kill the leadership and high-level combatants of the Court of Stars.
----[] Riz'Neth, Soft Strider, Nirah, the Champion of Yss (CR 20), Aife, Herald of the Ferryman (CR 22)
-[] Part 3 - The Great Summoning: Summon as many Fiends as you possibly can to fuel the ritual.
----[] Summoners: Viserys, Lya (1st Body)
----[] Guards: Dany, Richard, Vee (Free Action), Zherys, Waymar (Free Action), Malarys, Tyene (Free Action), Adamantine Golem (Monk 1)
-[] Part 4 - Culmination: Perform the great ritual at the end of the month, sacrificing thousands of fiends to destroy the Court of Stars. Then immediately assemble a strike-force with all available Companions to either confirm the demise of the Court of Stars leadership or to assault their seat of power to finish off what is left.
----[] Everyone from the other parts, plus everyone else who is available.

----[] Does this look like a shit-rainbow to anyone else? I'm a proven daltonic, so I can't judge too harshly on my own.
Shall I just spoiler stuff phase-by-phase, or bleaching the colors to ~~glorious~~ standard white would be enough?

egoo said:
[] Trade for Fey Lore applicable to Imperial Deity project (without spreading the information on the exact nature of the project too freely) with the Fey of:
-[] Sea Courts
-[] Golden Grove Court
-[] Spread-out Westerosi Old Gods-aligned Courts
-[] Wild Hunt
-[] Lys' Goblin Market Court
(0/12 Progress)
----[] Rina (4d6 Progress); Tolos Scholarum Branch (2d6 Progress);

----[] @DragonParadox, looking at this one we may have misunderstood on-another.
Did the "12 Progress" mean per Fey Court when asked whether we should send someone to get lore from them?
It is equivalent to how much Orphne alone was with such an action the last month.
Or are we free to do them all at once now that we have more of an idea of what we look for with Fey Lore?

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Azel said:
If we want to do this, it should be coupled with setting up Inquisition outposts in the two provinces.

@Crake, I need an adult.

DragonParadox · Sep 30, 2020

Good night guys, see you tomorrow as we deal with the Vale.

Speed53066 · Sep 30, 2020

[X] Azel

So, we are attacking with all of the undead abominations we can muster when we start to finish up Essos.

DragonParadox · Sep 30, 2020

egoo said:
@DragonParadox, looking at this one we may have misunderstood on-another.
Did the "12 Progress" mean per Fey Court when asked whether we should send someone to get lore from them?
It is equivalent to how much Orphne alone was with such an action the last month.
Or are we free to do them all at once now that we have more of an idea of what we look for with Fey Lore?

This is everyone yeah, with the Orphne you knew you were going to get something, this is rolling the dice on them having useful information.

Azel · Sep 30, 2020

egoo said:
----[] is awkward mechanically compared to narratively.
We can send a large group and count on them doing the things needed to clear the swamps and staying safe, but they incredibly overshoot the Progress if we assume previous month's Progress values not changing.
Question is then: Do we try to assign some of these people elsewhere? Most are there because can't into sneak and Slavers' Bay, nor useful in killing CoS.

Definitely take out Sandor. He is scheduled for a Praetori upgrade and that will take the month.

As for the rest, I'm not seeing much useful to do for the others. They are too weak for major combat operations and not really skilled for Intrigue work.

egoo said:
----[] Does this look like a shit-rainbow to anyone else? I'm a proven daltonic, so I can't judge too harshly on my own.
Shall I just spoiler stuff phase-by-phase, or bleaching the colors to ~~glorious~~ standard white would be enough?

@Goldfish, would you pretty up the colors? You have proven to have a few eyestalks for that.

Massgamer · Sep 30, 2020

[X] Azel

Look forward to getting third forge since at that point we can make armies that can be a decent threat to ones in other realms and certainly Others.

egoo · Sep 30, 2020

Azel said:
Definitely take out Sandor

Done.

Night y'all

Crazyone47 · Sep 30, 2020

Haven't been on this quest in a while.
We killed Brynden Tully?!!!
You kmow this is eventually going to be found out and used against us right?

T_of_A · Sep 30, 2020

Crazyone47 said:
Haven't been on this quest in a while.
We killed Brynden Tully?!!!
You kmow this is eventually going to be found out and used against us right?

Who'll use it against us, exactly?

A_Somebody · Sep 30, 2020

Crazyone47 said:
Haven't been on this quest in a while.
We killed Brynden Tully?!!!
You kmow this is eventually going to be found out and used against us right?

We killed him because his death achieved desired strategic goals. As for detection uhhhh yeah, its highly unlikely that any of our enemies with the ability to casually pierce mind blank like that is gonna spend time/effort looking in this as opposed to Idk anything else we've got min blanked. We pinned the crime on the Others and since we know Lysa made a deal with sketchy ass Fey, it ends up having enough kernels of truth to really rustle some jimmies.

[X] Azel

egoo · Sep 30, 2020

TalonofAnathrax said:
Who'll use it against us, exactly?

Lana?

Duesal · Sep 30, 2020

Crazyone47 said:
Haven't been on this quest in a while.
We killed Brynden Tully?!!!
You kmow this is eventually going to be found out and used against us right?

Yes, yes we did. And if anyone finds out, it's fine. We only really need it to work for a bit to spark a civil war in the Vale.

egoo said:
Lana?

Smartphone · Sep 30, 2020

Just to put things into perspective looking at operation Starfall we are going to be putting in around nine to ten times as many HD into blowing up the CoS as we did the Tree of the Dawn Age.

This is literally industrial scale assembly line murder of sentient beings (even if they are Demons) to destroy our enemies. And honestly, given how valuable HD is to us and our feelings towards shinies I imagine this is only the start of our industrial scale harvesting of demons to fuel our war machine.

So, I feel that while I do not think we have quite crossed the line into Lawful Evil yet (as we do lack other meaningful options, they are Demons we are sacrificing, and the CoS must be stopped), I do feel we are definitely toeing it.

On an unrelated note:

[X] Azel

Duesal · Sep 30, 2020

Smartphone said:
Just to put things into perspective looking at operation Starfall we are going to be putting in around nine to ten times as many HD into blowing up the CoS as we did the Tree of the Dawn Age.

This is literally industrial scale assembly line murder of sentient beings (even if they are Demons) to destroy our enemies. And honestly, given how valuable HD is to us and our feelings towards shinies I imagine this is only the start of our industrial scale harvesting of demons to fuel our war machine.

So, I feel that while I do not think we have quite crossed the line into Lawful Evil yet (as we do lack other meaningful options, they are Demons we are sacrificing, and the CoS must be stopped), I do feel we are definitely toeing it.

On an unrelated note:

[X] Azel

Slaying the avatars of Mammon and Tiamat put us on the map, but this is definitely going to cement our legend as a force to be feared.

ryuan · Sep 30, 2020

The alternative is to let our guys to wade through the grinder that is the CoS later on.

egoo · Sep 30, 2020

Smartphone said:
Just to put things into perspective looking at operation Starfall we are going to be putting in around nine to ten times as many HD into blowing up the CoS as we did the Tree of the Dawn Age.

This is literally industrial scale assembly line murder of sentient beings (even if they are Demons) to destroy our enemies. And honestly, given how valuable HD is to us and our feelings towards shinies I imagine this is only the start of our industrial scale harvesting of demons to fuel our war machine.

So, I feel that while I do not think we have quite crossed the line into Lawful Evil yet (as we do lack other meaningful options, they are Demons we are sacrificing, and the CoS must be stopped), I do feel we are definitely toeing it.

On an unrelated note:

[X] Azel

Yeah, worth of HD compared to effort it takes to gain kiiiinda plummeted since the first forays the wuest had in sacrifice.

We can get utterly ridiculous numbers of sacrifices with goldfish's background method alone, and alkost double those with some summoning-time by Lya and Visetys thrown I'm thr mknth.

We can keep at it for months until Demons catch up and start doing something that would mean summonjng thousands of Demkns wont be worth the effort to keep out the Archdaemon's countermeasures.
...And when Demons are done we'd have Daemons to bother the same way for months

The question arises: why doesn't anyone else summon so much?

The answers can range from utterly ominous (there are conequence), to sensible (no one ever thought this sort of shit would be possible, but now DP will also implement the 1st chiice to lampshade).

Okay slep for real

Smartphone · Sep 30, 2020

I know that is why I say we are toeing the line of lawful evil rather than crossing it, but let us not pretend that this is in any thing other than us choosing a lesser evil. What we are doing is horrible here (even if it is only demons) and we need to be cognisant of that fact if we do not want to cross the line into lawful evil.

T_of_A · Sep 30, 2020

When I GM, I tend to rule that endless summoning and endless Wishes destroy the fabric of reality. And this isn't an uncommon ruling (I stole it from somewhere, and I've played several pick-up games and/or quests with strangers who had the same headcanon).
Maybe DP will run with that too?

Duesal · Sep 30, 2020

TalonofAnathrax said:
When I GM, I tend to rule that endless summoning and endless Wishes destroy the fabric of reality. And this isn't an uncommon ruling (I stole it from somewhere, and I've played several pick-up games and/or quests with strangers who had the same headcanon).
Maybe DP will run with that too?

We're anticipating that. That's why this is going to take place in a demiplane anchored in Limbo. None of this is happening anywhere it will do damage.

SeekerofLight · Sep 30, 2020

[X] Azel

Othan763 · Sep 30, 2020

[X] Azel

ryuan · Sep 30, 2020

Valyria probably did that, @egoo , and we're about to cross the threshould where the lower planes counter measures kick in.

Crazyone47 · Sep 30, 2020

egoo said:
Yeah, worth of HD compared to effort it takes to gain kiiiinda plummeted since the first forays the wuest had in sacrifice.

We can get utterly ridiculous numbers of sacrifices with goldfish's background method alone, and alkost double those with some summoning-time by Lya and Visetys thrown I'm thr mknth.

We can keep at it for months until Demons catch up and start doing something that would mean summonjng thousands of Demkns wont be worth the effort to keep out the Archdaemon's countermeasures.
...And when Demons are done we'd have Daemons to bother the same way for months

The question arises: why doesn't anyone else summon so much?

The answers can range from utterly ominous (there are conequence), to sensible (no one ever thought this sort of shit would be possible, but now DP will also implement the 1st chiice to lampshade).

Okay slep for real

This actually is a good good point.
With all our freaking successes so far.
Is there a possible explanation for why any of this is possible for our protagonist?
Why is Viserys and his Imperium so successful?

Goldfish · Sep 30, 2020

Crazyone47 said:
This actually is a good good point.
With all our freaking successes so far.
Is there a possible explanation for why any of this is possible for our protagonist?
Why is Viserys and his Imperium so successful?

Proper planning.

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