Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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[X] Remain silent, wait until your debrief with the Duchess to discuss the matter
I think this operation has very clearly demonstrated that when it comes to nonviolent methods of dealing with "barbarians", these Elders' judgement is compromised. They wanted to attack the White Sky representatives for god's sake. At a diplomatic summit. After the White Sky just got done talking about how this wasn't their fight and they want to stay out of it. Anyone sane would've either called off the attack, or given a clear signal that the representatives were to be considered non-combatants and actively protected from becoming collateral damage.
Then Ling Qi potentially saves their bacon by convincing the White Sky to go away, and they're like "Great job, let's run them down while their backs are turned!"
I really don't want to risk them screwing this up and provoking a totally preventable war with what sounds like a pretty damn powerful foreign polity.
I think this operation has very clearly demonstrated that when it comes to nonviolent methods of dealing with "barbarians", these Elders' judgement is compromised. They wanted to attack the White Sky representatives for god's sake. At a diplomatic summit. After the White Sky just got done talking about how this wasn't their fight and they want to stay out of it. Anyone sane would've either called off the attack, or given a clear signal that the representatives were to be considered non-combatants and actively protected from becoming collateral damage.
Then Ling Qi potentially saves their bacon by convincing the White Sky to go away, and they're like "Great job, let's run them down while their backs are turned!"
I really don't want to risk them screwing this up and provoking a totally preventable war with what sounds like a pretty damn powerful foreign polity.
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UmbraofChaos
Freedom Lets Go
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- They/Them
[X] Remain silent, wait until your debrief with the Duchess to discuss the matter
- Location
- Ukraine
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- She/They
[X] Remain silent, wait until your debrief with the Duchess to discuss the matter
The only argument in favor of showing it to the sect I can think of is that if the Duchess has a sharply negative reaction, it has potential to be far worse than the Sect's worst negative reaction (which will probably just be taking the thing away from Ling Qi and scolding her for taking candy from strangers). But the Duchess might have a sharply negative reaction to Ling Qi NOT holding the thing out to show to her, if she's inclined to be irrational on the matter, so... yeah.
This is just a flat out better option, imho.
The only argument in favor of showing it to the sect I can think of is that if the Duchess has a sharply negative reaction, it has potential to be far worse than the Sect's worst negative reaction (which will probably just be taking the thing away from Ling Qi and scolding her for taking candy from strangers). But the Duchess might have a sharply negative reaction to Ling Qi NOT holding the thing out to show to her, if she's inclined to be irrational on the matter, so... yeah.
This is just a flat out better option, imho.
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
- Location
- The Void
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minimap_op
plsnerf
- Location
- Lower Lefthand Corner
[X] Remain silent, wait until your debrief with the Duchess to discuss the matter
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- scrabbling
yrsillar maybe doing too good a job dunking on the sect lol
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- somewhere over there.
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- They/It
I think it's more of a characterization vote than a "pick the optimal path" one.
- Location
- Colorado
Another thing to consider is that it isn't just Jiao who is incapacitated. Back when we first got the sliver my best thought was that we should tell CRX as soon as the mission ended, and then if she thought it was worth a try follow up with bringing Liao Zhu in to help us plan out a proposal before going to an Elder. As the #1 inner disciple his support would have at least gotten them to hear us out even in the worst case scenario, but now he's in a coma.
The Cai option just seems less likely for us to get dismissed out of hand, the sliver confiscated, or punished for being insufficiently aggressive toward the enemy or some bullshit. It's only flaw is that we should explicitly be giving CRX the basics on the way to the communication room so we can get some last minute advice.
The Cai option just seems less likely for us to get dismissed out of hand, the sliver confiscated, or punished for being insufficiently aggressive toward the enemy or some bullshit. It's only flaw is that we should explicitly be giving CRX the basics on the way to the communication room so we can get some last minute advice.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
The problem is that even our relatively moderate commanding officer's impulse was "Well that's not how I'd have handled it but it was a good play, we'll have to capture them on the way out."
Like, the very idea of "Maybe we don't need to fight them" didn't occur to him.
Which is the biggest indictment from a meta point of view of this particular group of the Sect at this particular period of time.
Especially when most of the people who'd vouch for us who are in the Sect are incapacitated or unavailable right now.
Like, the very idea of "Maybe we don't need to fight them" didn't occur to him.
Which is the biggest indictment from a meta point of view of this particular group of the Sect at this particular period of time.
Especially when most of the people who'd vouch for us who are in the Sect are incapacitated or unavailable right now.
No, but I expect the Empire to suffer a collapse over the course of the story, and I expect Ling Qi to have a lot more opportunity and influence in the fragments we end up associated with.
- Location
- Florida
It's not like they don't know about the ice lady if Buddha sensed them and the shard in our possession, it's more.. passing the ball to Shenhua after all it's not just a Sect matter anymore.
We expect Shenhua to ignore that stance and do whatever she believes will benefit her, because that's the sort of thing Shenhua does.
Zwobot
Pure Lazy
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- She/Her
Oof. Really, a collapse? I mean, sure there are certainly many, many, many fires flaring up, but it seems hardier than that. ... I hope at least.
Yeah.
Though if she follows up on this and does send us on a 'diplomatic' mission I expect that to be one hell of a gamble. Or test, considering Shenhua's past behavior. If we succeed in driving a wedge between the tribes, good. If not, well, we're still rather expendable. That's at least my expectation ...
Everything is a test with Shenhua. Which means we can always fail, but also that we always get enough help that we should have a chance of succeeding. It's not amazing but its better than the nothing the Sect is likely to give us, since they wouldn't even bother taking the chance.
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- Location
- Florida
But we get to speak with Ice Ladies then
Or, as a wise person once said:
Ogodei is the reason there are so many high level cultivators at Argent Peak. It's also the reason why so many of the high level cultivators are set in their Ways regarding the Cloud Tribes.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Shenhua is known for having made a war against her ducal house because they didn't have a hardcore enough stance against the barbarians, and promptly managed to get all the anti-barbarians factions behind her.
Her formative moment was when her father and brother sacrificed themselves to give words of an upcoming barbarian invasion, and the response from the Hui wasn't extreme enough.