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- Philippines
We spent how much?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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We spent how much?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
@Duesal @Goldfish @egoo @Artemis1992 @TalonofAnathrax @Azel
Maybe we should get one level-up vote done during the overnight vote? There's a lot of them though, so I was hoping we could do one during the morning vote and the overnight vote for the next few days.
Maybe we should get one level-up vote done during the overnight vote? There's a lot of them though, so I was hoping we could do one during the morning vote and the overnight vote for the next few days.
8,000.
8000 sorry for the typo.
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- United States
Seems good. We've got like... 10 or 12 of those to get through.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Sure, I've no arguments with any of the level-ups I've seen sans Richard's anyway.
(it feels nice to be included in the tagging even though I never, ever, took part in those kinds of discussion. I feel important : V )
...And the general feel was towards the "snatch catapult shots outta thin air"-feat there anyway.
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- Location
- France
That's great as long as we don't start with Richard.
Vote closed.
Interlude DCCCLXI: Keys of Life and Death
Keys of Life and Death
Twenty-Fourth of the Second Month 294 AC
There was nothing quite so frustrating as looking through thousands upon thousands of abstract permutations and practical tests only to find the ultimate answer had been staring you in the face all along, Wyla Drekelys thought as she literally closed the book on the last test of the day with a thump of heavy covers against parchment. Well other than continued failure she supposed, that would have made for a worse accounting to the King. Still, to have the answer handed to her by a new assistant's idle thought rankled.
Why don't living men have flowers bloom under their feet if they are full of the bright power as the dead are filled with the dark?
The simple answer, the one most priests and scholars would have given, would be 'because the energies of unlife are unnatural', but to Wyla that seemed as hollow as claiming that flames burned because they were evil and you really should have eaten the rabbit raw. There had to exist within the minds and bodies of not just humans but indeed all living things contingencies to prevent undue spillage of life force, either into the world, making proverbial flowers bloom, or into the mind leading to obsessive behaviors and ultimately madness. If such could be found they could be adapted to the unliving.
The experiments began with small highly destructive tests on spiders, partly because Wyla had hated them since she was a child and partly because the girl Vee would not object to torturing bugs the way she would do using a dog for like purposes. Speaking of dogs, they had moved on to observing the interaction of animus and soul in dogs and cats once they were certain they could do so safely.
What they had found was that the living animus did influence the soul, specifically it was responsible in part for the instincts to survive, reproduce and protect the young as well as, in social beings, the capacity to place one's self in another's shoes, empathy. The dark fire of unlife forged its own instincts in return, to destroy, to devour, to unmake.
For a long moment working the night through and getting back to exploding lesser dead they had feared a second roadblock, but that was when Wyla herself had a small epiphany.
She had watched her assistant fumble with the keys to the restricted stores, fatigue making him clumsy and careless. He was using the wrong key. Worse still, rather than simply failing to open to door, he had actually jammed it into the lock, damaging it.
That had been the answer, it was not simply the existence of instincts aligned with death and unmaking, it was that those instincts unwittingly replaced on a basal level the instincts of life. Of course one would not, for instance, suddenly cast all self-conservation to the winds. It was in part learned behavior, but the dissonance between what the mind willed and what the new aniums desired would breed madness.
Armed with the knowledge of where the trouble arose it was a matter of days to use Lady Lya's compilations of soul magic to weave a metaphysical veil that would allow the hierarchical interactions of animus, body and soul without the overlap that had caused so much harm. The best part was that the change was so small and unintrusive that it could be applied to those who already walked in death. It would not of course heal a mind that had already been eroded, but it would prevent further harm and make true healing possible if the individual sought it. The chaotic surges of dark energy and unseen stresses upon the mind could finally be laid to rest.
Stabilization of Sentient Undead Complete 37/30: Prevent undue influence on the mind from the state of undeath
What next?
[] Receive an operational report (Interlude chain)
-[] City of Brass, where the foundations are laid for a most perilous raid
-[] Slaver's Bay, where devils plot in the shadows
-[] Qohor, where dreams of madness spill into the waking world
-[] Vialesk, where enemies overt and hidden move against your envoys -
-[] Investigation into the hostile fey of the Braavosi hinterlands
-[] Write in
[] Receive a research report (Interlude chain)
-[] Study of the Serpentstone
-[] Spell-forging hostile translocation
-[] Developing Imperial Powered Armor
-[] Write in
[] Continue with Viserys
-[] Write in
OOC: I hope the talk of metaphysics was not too drawn out here.
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- United States
[X] Oversee the return of the Salloshi to their homes
-[X] With Vargo at your side, meet the Salloshi ghosts, and see if you can convince them to take on warforged bodies.
--[X] Though they were originally designed as servitors, this is a new age, and those bodies are effectively immortal. It would give them a chance to walk among the sun, to be with their descendants, and most importantly to push the limits of their craft again.
--[X] They will not be alone in this. Inform them that Queen Namaaru and the majority of her followers in Sathar intend to take warforged bodies, as do those of Mardosh.
-[X] If they wish to stay undead, there's also the option of them being given Soulforged Undead forms, or ghost-touched gloves to allow them to interact with the world.
--[X] That or they could be granted soulless flesh forged bodies that they can possess at will.
[X] Zherys Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Incantifier
-[X] Skills (6 points): +1 Bluff, +1 Concentration, +1 Diplomacy, +1 Knowledge (Arcana), +1 Sense Motive, +1 Spellcraft
-[X] Spells:
--[X] 7th Level: Greater Teleport
--[X] 8th Level: Greater Arcane Fusion
-[X] With Vargo at your side, meet the Salloshi ghosts, and see if you can convince them to take on warforged bodies.
--[X] Though they were originally designed as servitors, this is a new age, and those bodies are effectively immortal. It would give them a chance to walk among the sun, to be with their descendants, and most importantly to push the limits of their craft again.
--[X] They will not be alone in this. Inform them that Queen Namaaru and the majority of her followers in Sathar intend to take warforged bodies, as do those of Mardosh.
-[X] If they wish to stay undead, there's also the option of them being given Soulforged Undead forms, or ghost-touched gloves to allow them to interact with the world.
--[X] That or they could be granted soulless flesh forged bodies that they can possess at will.
[X] Zherys Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Incantifier
-[X] Skills (6 points): +1 Bluff, +1 Concentration, +1 Diplomacy, +1 Knowledge (Arcana), +1 Sense Motive, +1 Spellcraft
-[X] Spells:
--[X] 7th Level: Greater Teleport
--[X] 8th Level: Greater Arcane Fusion
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- Texas
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- He/Him
[X] Duesal
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- Germany
Now that we have confirmation that the stabilisation works on pre-existing Undead, I see little reason to have a bunch of scholar-ghosts clad in Warforged bodies.
These guys in Sallosh in particular have been stable and not politically or militarily active for as long as magic has been back, with no harm done that we know of.
[X] Receive an operational report (Interlude chain)
-[X] Slaver's Bay, where devils plot in the shadows
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- United States
You're misinterpreting my reasoning there. I don't care about them being undead, I'm making the offer because if they get corporeal bodies that means a huge influx of expert magical crafters for the Imperium. These are the same men who developed the Warforged in the first place. Instead of being ghostly advisors they could actually be crafting again.
- Location
- Germany
@DragonParadox, the price to apply the Soulforged Template to a souled undead will be 5 times what it takes to apply it to a soulless undead, right?
That's the number we had agreed on back when this research action was designed at least.
That's the number we had agreed on back when this research action was designed at least.
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- United States
How much does it cost for a soulless undead?
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- Germany
Ghostly Grasp Feat
www.realmshelps.net
Or just a bit of ghost-touch equipment, like gloves?
Doesn't need to be strong enough to use in combat, just to move lab-equipment.
Their incorporeal state is no barrier at all.
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- Germany
10 IM x HD x CR
So for souled it should be:
50 IM x HD x CR
This is of course on top of the creation cost, though for the Sarnori, that step is already done. Soulforging a 10 HD, CR 10 caster would thus set us back 5,000 IM.
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- United States
While it's not the end of the world if they say no, I'm still making the offer.
Sure thing. Which one should we handle tonight?
Oh wow. That's super cheap for the use we get out of it. Souled undead are obviously more expensive, but with that kind of power it does seem worth it.
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- Germany
Come to think of, can't they simply temporarily possess a body? Or just order someone around?
We could make them a dozen low-level undead as lab workers for the spare change in our pockets.
Yes, it's still five times the cost.
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- Germany
There is a difference betwen merely making an offer or having Mr. Maximal Charisma activly try to convince people.
- Location
- Germany
Addind that to the infopost then.
Ordering someone around is fine, but being possessed by a cost is a deeply disturbing process, you won't find many volunteers.