Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
That's me misremembering again. Can you by any chance give me a link to that chapter so I can refresh my memory?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- Location
- Argentina
Here's the relevant bit, it happens just before we start to deal with the nine.
- Location
- United States
Oh, sweet. The realization already happened IC.
- Location
- United States
Either an Adept if she's an NPC or Cleric if she manages to be a PC.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Imperial Bureaucromancer! 🤓
More seriously, Imperial Clerics or simply Clerics would probably be more appropriate.
How about Clerks?
- Location
- Germany
[X] Crake
Ace of Scarabs
Mechanoid Pilot
- Location
- Singapore
[X] Crake
In all seriousness, we could potentially use memetic warfare against the Court of Stars, just have to do it subtly so they don't go to open war with us yet.
In all seriousness, we could potentially use memetic warfare against the Court of Stars, just have to do it subtly so they don't go to open war with us yet.
Vote closed
Part MMMDCXVI: Upon a Silent Stage
Upon a Silent Stage
Twenty-First Day of the Second Month 294 AC
The amphitheater is far more populated than it was just yesterday, though you would not know it on approach. A eerie stillness lies upon the gathering, the mark of those who need neither breath nor motion, the only sound the hiss of the wind over empty bones and the fluttering of funerary bandages. To one side is Queen Naamaru and her closest courtiers, vizier and treasurer, something like a Master of Whisperers, though the formal ibis headress makes the position as one of greater formal import than it ever held in Westeros, along with the commanders of her hosts who had laid shattered, banners at her feet.
On the other side are those who marched under those banners, divested now of arms and armor they seem somehow smaller than their captors, the withering of death more obvious without gold and sapphires to catch the eye. They do not seem to be ordered in any manner greater than a Freeholder's household, whatever officers had lead them to be vanquished, forgotten and ignored. Unlike Sathar's hosts you spy no priests among the vanquished and for good cause. According to accounts of the battle every mage-priest among the Kasathi chose true death over apostasy to the Last God of Sarnor. Though Queen Naamaru is not one for mercy in the usual run of things she gave them their wish.
Do they feel fear, you wonder, when they look upon the fields of bone and ash your mages now carefully sift through for the remains of the fallen, or is death too familiar a face to hold any silvering terrors?
- 40,000 Lesser Dead -> 70,000 HD; Max CR 3
- 15,000 Chariots, Minor Mages and Champions -> 67,500 HD; Max CR 6
- 380 Grave Knights -> 3,800 HD; Max CR 13
- 80 Storm Sorrows -> 1,360 HD Max CR 12
- 250 Bone Wagons -> 4,000 HD Max CR 15
- 24 Beasts of Ruin -> 600 HD; Max CR 18
- 9 Battle Mages -> 144 HD; Max CR 18
You enter the arena, Ser Richard on one side, the only honor guard you need, Lya on the other as both your future queen and most importantly the one most skilled in explaining the arcane workings of soul magic. Dany had wished to be here, but there are still those among the Legion who lost entire limbs in the battle that lesser healing magic cannot mend. That not only Vee but Malarys has chosen to join her is you suspect a sign that the mage lord does not wish to be part of this particular conversation. Though he has never said it in so many words you suspect seeing Sarnor thus, an open grave where the dead hold court, makes an ill sight for him.
"I am Viserys Targaryen," you begin bluntly, not bothering yet with titles. "All of you know me for my banner and for those who fought under them in the battle that has passed. Some of you know me as ally, others as foe, but let us from this moment draw the curtain on the strife of yesterday. If there is to be a path forward for all Sarnor, not in madness and strife, but the building of a new realm, then it should be a future rightfully offered to all who endure of the legacy of the Tall Men."
"Seemly words and ones I can find no fault with, but I must confess an interest in details," Queen Naamaru interjects. "We cannot be restored to life as were those slain in the battle just passed, for all here have lain in their graves at least three and a half centuries, and some many more."
Some things never change, no matter how long one peers into the past, and one of these things is it seems is the mummery of rule. You happen to know for a fact that the queen has questioned Vee about the Flesh Forge and Dany about restoring the ancient dead, and so she knows of the vast powers of the former and your success in the latter endeavor, but this is for both her subjects and her erstwhile foes to know what you offer under the light of day.
[] Offer transference into warforged bodies for all who are willing to swear fealty to you
[] Offer the freedom of your realm to any of the dead who might wish to visit or even to stay
[] Write in
OOC: Loot in terms of treasure will come later, I'm not sure how to simulate piles of partially cursed/haunted tomb goods without getting too specific.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Upon a Silent Stage
Twenty-First Day of the Second Month 294 AC
The amphitheater is far more populated than it was just yesterday, though you would not know it on approach. An eerie stillness lies upon the gathering, the mark of those who need neither breath nor motion, the only sound the hiss of wind over empty bone and the fluttering of funerary wrappings. To one side is Queen Naamaru and her closest courtiers, vizier and treasurer, something like a Master of Whispers, though the formal ibis headdress marks the position as one of greater formal import than it ever held in Westeros, and the commanders of her hosts who had laid shattered banners at her feet.
On the other side are those who marched under those banners. Divested now of arms and armor, they seem somehow smaller than their captors, the withering of death more obvious without gold and sapphires to catch the eye. They do not seem to be ordered in any manner greater than a freeholder's household, whatever officers had lead them to be vanquished forgotten and ignored. Unlike Sathar's hosts, you spy no priests among the vanquished, and for good cause. According to accounts of the battle, every mage-priest among the Kasathi chose true death over apostasy to the Last God of Sarnor. Though Queen Naamaru is not one for mercy in the usual run of things, she gave them their wish.
Do they feel fear, you wonder, when they look upon the fields of bone and ash your mages now carefully sift through for the remains of the fallen, or is death too familiar a face to hold any remaining terrors.
- 40,000 Lesser Dead -> 70,000 HD; Max CR 3
- 15,000 Chariots, Minor Mages, and Champions -> 67,500 HD; Max CR 6
- 380 Grave Knights -> 3,800 HD; Max CR 13
- 80 Storm Sorrows -> 1,360 HD Max CR 12
- 250 Bone Wagons -> 4,000 HD Max CR 15
- 24 Beasts of Ruin -> 600 HD; Max CR 18
- 9 Battle mages 144 HD; Max CR 18
You enter the arena, Ser Richard on one side, the only honor guard you need, and Lya on the other, as both your future queen and most importantly the one most skilled in explaining the arcane workings of soul magic. Dany had wished to be here, but there are still those among the legion who lost entire limbs in the battle that lesser healing magic cannot mend. That not only Vee but Malarys has chosen to join her is, you assume, a sign that the mage lord does not wish to be part of this particular conversation. Though he has never said it in so many words, you suspect seeing Sarnor thus, an open grave where the dead hold court, makes an ill sight for him.
"I am Viserys Targaryen," you begin bluntly, not bothering yet with titles. "All of you know me for my banner and for those who fought under them in the battle that has passed. Some of you know me as ally, others as foe, but let us from this moment draw the curtain on the conflict of yesterday. If there is to be a path forward for all Sarnor, not in madness and strife but rather in the building of a new realm, then it should be a future rightfully offered to all who endure of the legacy of the Tall Men."
"Seemly words and ones I can find no fault with, but I must confess an interest in details," Queen Naamaru interjects. "We cannot be restored to life as were those slain in the battles just passed, for all here have lain in their graves at least three and a half centuries, and some many more."
Some things never change, no matter how long one peers into the past, and one of these things is, it seems, is the mummery of rule. You happen to know for a fact that the queen has questioned Vee about the flesh forge and Dany about restoring the ancient dead, and so she knows of the vast powers of the former and your success in the latter, but this is for both her subjects and her erstwhile foes to know what you offer under the light of day.
[] Offer transference into warforged bodies for all who are willing to swear fealty to you
[] Offer the freedom of your realm to any of the dead who might wish to visit or even to stay
[] Write in
OOC: Loot in terms of treasure will come later, I'm not sure how to simulate piles of partially cursed/haunted tomb goods without getting too specific. Not yet edited.
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- Location
- United States
[X] It is not quite true that the doors to life are closed to her.
-[X] Offer transference into warforged bodies for the Sarnori, a technology developed by the Salloshi, a departure from the tortured half-life they currently know (which comes with the benefit of functional immortality)
--[X] If there are those who for some reason wish to stay in their undead half-life, give Queen Namaaru the tech Qyburn developed to encase the undead in a lead suit to prevent negative energy leakage, and privately inform the queen that there is research being done to ensure the mental stability of intelligent undead which we will share with her upon completion
-[X] You do not demand fealty, not now, but you hope that the Sarnori will continue to be close allies against the many awakening threats of the world
--[X] That being said if there is a chance at it (not to be brought up if it's not the right time), there are many benefits for those who wish to join the Imperium, but we can wait for the right time if necessary
-[X] In a more private setting, reveal to Queen Namaaru that you have resurrected the long dead before, twice, and that with a few modifications the same form of ritual could restore her into life in truth.
--[X] If she wishes to bring back more of her close subjects in this manner we are happy to provide the research notes if the new ritual ends up being personalized to her rather than standardized
-[X] Invite Queen Namaaru for a visit to Sorcerer's Deep and a personal tour of your realm when time permits
--[X] Show her the markets, the temples, the Circle of Battle, the various attractions, and end the tour with a walk through the Halls of Horror and a discussion of how best to cooperate against the threats in the dark
She seems like the kind of person to want to see everything about our realm before making any commitments. But that said offering the warforged tech and returning her and her close subordinates to life shouldn't be contingent on getting vassalized, that's how we get a negative modifier to convincing her. @DragonParadox, I hope nothing in the above plan is too pushy. I'm doing my best to stay respectful and generous to have the best shot at convincing her to join the Imperium.
-[X] Offer transference into warforged bodies for the Sarnori, a technology developed by the Salloshi, a departure from the tortured half-life they currently know (which comes with the benefit of functional immortality)
--[X] If there are those who for some reason wish to stay in their undead half-life, give Queen Namaaru the tech Qyburn developed to encase the undead in a lead suit to prevent negative energy leakage, and privately inform the queen that there is research being done to ensure the mental stability of intelligent undead which we will share with her upon completion
-[X] You do not demand fealty, not now, but you hope that the Sarnori will continue to be close allies against the many awakening threats of the world
--[X] That being said if there is a chance at it (not to be brought up if it's not the right time), there are many benefits for those who wish to join the Imperium, but we can wait for the right time if necessary
-[X] In a more private setting, reveal to Queen Namaaru that you have resurrected the long dead before, twice, and that with a few modifications the same form of ritual could restore her into life in truth.
--[X] If she wishes to bring back more of her close subjects in this manner we are happy to provide the research notes if the new ritual ends up being personalized to her rather than standardized
-[X] Invite Queen Namaaru for a visit to Sorcerer's Deep and a personal tour of your realm when time permits
--[X] Show her the markets, the temples, the Circle of Battle, the various attractions, and end the tour with a walk through the Halls of Horror and a discussion of how best to cooperate against the threats in the dark
She seems like the kind of person to want to see everything about our realm before making any commitments. But that said offering the warforged tech and returning her and her close subordinates to life shouldn't be contingent on getting vassalized, that's how we get a negative modifier to convincing her. @DragonParadox, I hope nothing in the above plan is too pushy. I'm doing my best to stay respectful and generous to have the best shot at convincing her to join the Imperium.
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Ace of Scarabs
Mechanoid Pilot
- Location
- Singapore
[X] Duesal
- Location
- Argentina
We should offer everything. These guys surrendered, so they are not so opposed to us
Between new lives indifferent vodies, the possibility to stay as they are if they want, our research into sanity and undeath, and the fact that we are rebuilding Sarnor, most should join
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Emphasis mine.
I personally wouldn't mind her being Warforged, that's effin' Metal (heh).
But most of all, we have to ensure we aren't seen as handing out preferential treatment with this, or anything.
I may be just sleepy rn and seeing things where there are none, however.
[X] Duesal
- Location
- Germany
This is the open show right now.
We should distincly not make one offer for her and one for her people, openly and in front of everyone important.
Edit: egoo'd
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- Location
- florida
We can offer the whole shebang.
Perhaps it would be better also to offer.
Passing. Real passing. If there is any god that would take them kindly.
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We still have to do something with the POWs.
As a reminder executing people who surrendered discouraged future surrender.
Perhaps it would be better also to offer.
Passing. Real passing. If there is any god that would take them kindly.
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We still have to do something with the POWs.
As a reminder executing people who surrendered discouraged future surrender.
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Nothing too pushy no, though I don't think you guys did the general 'resurrect ancient dead' research. Amrelath and Laenor both has specific rituals made.
- Location
- United States
Dude, it absolutely is preferential treatment. She's the queen. The rest of the Sarnori are commoners. What makes you think they're on equal footing?
I disagree, but in the interest of compromise, fine. I'll change the vote to have that part of the offer made in private.
We already did something with the POWs. We told them to surrender into Queen Namaaru's custody, and now they're her subjects I guess?
Okay, but we know it's possible so we can do a short research action to modify existing material for this, right?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
- 40,000 Lesser Dead -> 70,000 HD; Max CR 3
- 15,000 Chariots, Minor Mages, and Champions -> 67,500 HD; Max CR 6
- 380 Grave Knights -> 3,800 HD; Max CR 13
- 80 Storm Sorrows -> 1,360 HD Max CR 12
- 250 Bone Wagons -> 4,000 HD Max CR 15
- 24 Beasts of Ruin -> 600 HD; Max CR 18
- 9 Battle mages 144 HD; Max CR 18
Since the maximum CR of creatures grown using recycled HD is 1/3 or the highest CR of the batch, in this case 18 from a Beast of Ruin, they cannot exceed CR 6.
So in total, the Larder now has enough HD to fund the growth of 10,769 CR 6 servitors.
- Location
- florida
It will likely vary a lot based on their personal circumstances.
- Location
- United States
I'm just saying we've already got the groundwork laid out to figure out ritualized resurrection of ancient undead considering we're in possession of two separate rituals for it. Even if a research action is necessary for this it shouldn't be a big one.