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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
What he's asking for is absolutely impractical even with the ironclad empirical evidence that our acting with subtlety prevented greater harm, and it was clear we weren't acting with untoward motives for having done so because we approached the lawful leader of the city peacefully, and remained to address the authorities during our second infraction due to the need to communicate the danger of the threat to them.

Someone who is so hidebound as to not make exceptions for extenuating circumstance, like not having enough knowledge if the undead ruling the city are sane enough to meet in peace, or secondly preventing everyone from dying to Void interference, is not someone we are going to convince under any circumstances. He's an irrational actor and you have not presented him in any other manner by his actions. Perhaps his motives are actually not meant to be presented in that way, but I fail to see how.
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Ah... I see. Definite failure to communicate when I just gave him that one line. One moment while I edit the update.

Thanks for bringing this up BTW, criticism is very important in improving writing.
 
DragonParadox said:
Ah... I see. Definite failure to communicate when I just gave him that one line. One moment while I edit the update.

Thanks for bringing this up BTW, criticism is very important in improving writing.
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If it helps, I would prefer you spent more time elaborating and showing what motivates a person by having them exhibit more characterization.

Right now that makes either everyone a passive actor or a reactive one, instead of people who actually do shit, and it is kind of wearisome because it makes Viserys look like the only proactive person at times.
 
Crake said:
If it helps, I would prefer you spent more time elaborating and showing what motivates a person by having them exhibit more characterization.

Right now that makes either everyone a passive actor or a reactive one, instead of people who actually do shit, and it is kind of wearisome because it makes Viserys look like the only proactive person at times.
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Noted and yeah I have been rushing things recently especially yesterday with rushing to get the last two updates up.

Edits done. This is now the Lord Protector's line, more nuance than just no spies and no contact:

"That you do not bring spies and agents to Mardosh that are not known to her protectors and that you do not speak or interact with the Unanmed without pressing cause as was the case of your second meeting and not the first. I ask that you trust that i do not serve this Emptyness and would never allow it to infect what is left of this fair city."
 
@egoo, we probably shouldn't frame the problem with the prince in such a way that the obvious solution is to simply kill him again. If it comes to it we can offer to bottle the prince for the Lord Protector.44

[X] egoo
 
Duesal said:
@egoo, we probably shouldn't frame the problem with the prince in such a way that the obvious solution is to simply kill him again. If it comes to it we can offer to bottle the prince for the Lord Protector.44

[X] egoo
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Just make sure to NOT use Baleful Polymorph to make him less harmful.

Don't want us to be seen for humiliating a Royalty.

[X] egoo
 
DragonParadox said:
Noted and yeah I have been rushing things recently especially yesterday with rushing to get the last two updates up.

Edits done. This is now the Lord Protector's line, more nuance than just no spies and no contact:

"That you do not bring spies and agents to Mardosh that are not known to her protectors and that you do not speak or interact with the Unanmed without pressing cause as was the case of your second meeting and not the first. I ask that you trust that i do not serve this Emptyness and would never allow it to infect what is left of this fair city."
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Okay, this is much more workable. I don't mind agreeing to this.

[X] Agree
-[X] In full so you can be on your way sooner, you will come to a different deal soon enough
 
[X] Refuse respectfully.
-[X] Point out that while you respect Mardosh's autonomy, there is the fact that all of the threats which seek to imperil the world are at this time acting through subterfuge and subtlety. While you have indeed been conducting intrigues in Mardosh and elsewhere, you have been letting your reputation for open-handed dealing and honesty speak for you when the dust settles in such matters, because it is necessary to move with a subtle and swift hand in those instances. It is literally the only thing which prevented civil war in Mardosh you would wager, and it is never possible to always communicate urgency or the extent of a threat before it has already acted. You could explain just the barest portion of the evils your Inquisition has prevented in the last year to make it clear why you cannot both hamstring yourselves.
--[X] Furthermore, to isolate the Prince does not actually remove the problem. With his supernal link to the people, he presents a critical weakness in the city which could just as easily be a strength to the Void or a strength to Mardosh. [THIS ISN'T MEANT AS "He should be killed"]

am busy and shit at diplo-talk. Hope this addresses the concern, @Duesal.
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@egoo my vote is no longer necessary with edits made. Making the authorities aware of agents we send is perfectly reasonable from a diplomatic standpoint. They aren't asking we don't act subtly or spy under any circumstances, only that they are apprised of their activities and can identify them readily.
 
Yah, whatever.
[X] Goldfish

Sorry for all namevoting meh? , cant nametag rn.
 
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