@egoo Maybe I missed him in your turn proposal but Menel Goldentooth (Noble 4/Master Spy 4) seems like a good pc to assign to the Qohor mission.
 
How is Dany planning to threaten the bearded god anyway? The most feasible vectors are his followers, and that'd require some pretty screwed up actions on her part that she'd be hesitant at the very least to do.

Unless the BG is weak enough that we can loot parts of him for Yss. That'd be all kinds of fun.

Yss, after eating the god of facial hair:
I can think of a few ways to do so, but one of the big ones would be to grab something with a divine connection to him and then turn it into another divine siphon.

It's not the first time we've knee-capped a God.
 
Since the Bearded God theocracy runs Norvos and its territories I wonder how actually widespread cult is. Are there sects in Pentos and Qohor regions since Valyrian Roads connect to it?

Wonder if local Red Priests know anything useful.
 
Since the Bearded God theocracy runs Norvos and its territories I wonder how actually widespread cult is. Are there sects in Pentos and Qohor regions since Valyrian Roads connect to it?

Wonder if local Red Priests know anything useful.
It's implied there is a lot of "underground" faiths in the surrounding territories, though I'm not sure what DP has to say about how stringently enforced the prohibition against other religion is enforced by the Bearded Priests' enforcers (slave soldiers raised from birth to be their militant arm). Enough so that everyone is real quiet about it I guess.

I would say that other hubs for the Norvosi faith aren't a thing. It seems like the kind of thing that would have led to more power struggles, and Norvos seems to have centralized its power pretty well around the central priesthood.
 
Since the Bearded God theocracy runs Norvos and its territories I wonder how actually widespread cult is. Are there sects in Pentos and Qohor regions since Valyrian Roads connect to it?

Wonder if local Red Priests know anything useful.

The problem with the God of Facial Hair is that it hates other religions so much that Novos broke from the Valyrian Freehold to have their own city with their own religion, without fleshforged catgirls.

So I bet that their followers don't survive too long elsewhere. Either they flock to Norvos, or get ostracized for being dicks.
 
You know that hair golem our agents encountered earlier? I would be so not surprised if Beard Priests used a ton of those made up of shaved slave hair and dyed certain colors.
 
The problem with the God of Facial Hair is that it hates other religions so much that Novos broke from the Valyrian Freehold to have their own city with their own religion, without fleshforged catgirls.

So I bet that their followers don't survive too long elsewhere. Either they flock to Norvos, or get ostracized for being dicks.
The essence of your words isn't at all far off, but point for fact, Norvos paid tribute to the Freehold and in return was given a relative free hand to rule their slice of Western Essos as they saw fit, and on the map the Valyrians painted their lands red. All things considered, they weren't wrong to do so at the time. Hard to argue they didn't project the force to claim all the map they painted.
 
The essence of your words isn't at all far off, but point for fact, Norvos paid tribute to the Freehold and in return was given a relative free hand to rule their slice of Western Essos as they saw fit, and on the map the Valyrians painted their lands red. All things considered, they weren't wrong to do so at the time. Hard to argue they didn't project the force to claim all the map they painted.

The point is that they made their own city because the Freehold had too much religious tolerance, so they decided to make a theocracy of their own.

Paying taxes to be able to keep their own rules is not the essence. The essence was going so far as to make a theocracy of your city with your own True Faith.

They didn't have the power to face the Valyrians, but that's understandable.

Also I find all the obscure gods GRRM made up for Essos to be particularly disturbing. Between this one and the eldritch horror in Qohor, I find myself questioning the sanity of all this people.
 
Could use a few more votes.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jun 26, 2020 at 10:43 PM, finished with 33 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Offer them some good trade contacts in various ports of call in the Imperium, either your own personal ones or people you know will mesh well with the kind of industries they have their hands dipped into, the type of inside information one who did regular monitoring of publicly traded stock via ACSEC might have access to, as well as some expensive gifts with an aim of being more samples of the type of otherworldly or just far-off exotic goods that Silver Serpent traders carry in their manifests (it being specialized in perishables which are stored via magic or just high-end luxury items exploiting the foreign markets of the Planes). 5,000 IM should be enough to get a good idea of the quality and variety of things that pass through your customs.
    -[X] Tender a more direct relationship once the Imperium has established relations with Norvos more formally (which is basically thinly veiled for implying you will annex it sooner or later, and the nature of your business relationship will vary depending how you approach that prospect).
 
The point is that they made their own city because the Freehold had too much religious tolerance, so they decided to make a theocracy of their own.

Paying taxes to be able to keep their own rules is not the essence. The essence was going so far as to make a theocracy of your city with your own True Faith.

They didn't have the power to face the Valyrians, but that's understandable.

Also I find all the obscure gods GRRM made up for Essos to be particularly disturbing. Between this one and the eldritch horror in Qohor, I find myself questioning the sanity of all this people.
Sanity is relative. ASOIAF can be looked at through the lens of "everyone on screen is relatively comprehensible, and while sane, mostly idiotic and rarely well-meaning". And then somewhere off screen, Cthullu sits dreaming, and the comet in the sky is some kind of space god. And the ice fey living in the ice caps are omnicidal and by the way you might have a set of Warhammer-esque polar gates to another dimension up that way. And there's some kind of alien ruins all over the place and no we're not actually sure if they're really gone.

But because of relations-based power politics, all of that stuff isn't relevant.

Until it is.
 
Sanity is relative. ASOIAF can be looked at through the lens of "everyone on screen is relatively comprehensible, and while sane, mostly idiotic and rarely well-meaning". And then somewhere off screen, Cthullu sits dreaming, and the comet in the sky is some kind of space god. And the ice fey living in the ice caps are omnicidal and by the way you might have a set of Warhammer-esque polar gates to another dimension up that way. And there's some kind of alien ruins all over the place and no we're not actually sure if they're really gone.

But because of relations-based power politics, all of that stuff isn't relevant.

Until it is.
And then your medieval stasis suddenly ends in a simultaneous ice zombie apocalypse, extradimensional invasion(s) from beyond the bounds of reality, awakening Old One(s), and cranky gods popping up all over the place.

Oh, wait, that's ASWAH! 🤓
 
[X] Crake


Appearantly all Bearded Priests are heavily trained in combat.
I wonder if we'll see Warpriests and Omdura instead of straight Clerics here.
I have to admit, even though this religion doesn't look promising otherwise, at least having long-bearded priests that fight with two-handed, giant axes while wearing rawhide makes them inherently cooler than some robed Septons with a prayerbook.
 
[X] Crake

Also I concur that we should just eat/forcibly vassalize/whatever the Bearded God. He is not worth our time to persuade.
 
Vote closed.

This might take a bit while I write up a theological framework for the Bearded God. There isn't much in canon beyond his priests have beards and if I'm going to write factions they should be about something substantive.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jun 27, 2020 at 3:52 AM, finished with 43 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Offer them some good trade contacts in various ports of call in the Imperium, either your own personal ones or people you know will mesh well with the kind of industries they have their hands dipped into, the type of inside information one who did regular monitoring of publicly traded stock via ACSEC might have access to, as well as some expensive gifts with an aim of being more samples of the type of otherworldly or just far-off exotic goods that Silver Serpent traders carry in their manifests (it being specialized in perishables which are stored via magic or just high-end luxury items exploiting the foreign markets of the Planes). 5,000 IM should be enough to get a good idea of the quality and variety of things that pass through your customs.
    -[X] Tender a more direct relationship once the Imperium has established relations with Norvos more formally (which is basically thinly veiled for implying you will annex it sooner or later, and the nature of your business relationship will vary depending how you approach that prospect).
 
Vote closed.

This might take a bit while I write up a theological framework for the Bearded God. There isn't much in canon beyond his priests have beards and if I'm going to write factions they should be about something substantive.

Why, there's the Whiskers Faction, the Goatee Faction, The Muttonchops Faction, and the Moustache Faction, of course! Along with the minor factions of Soulpatch and Sideburns.
 
Added the Bearded God to the front page. Adding here too for conveniance:

The Bearded God
The Lawgiver, He of the Long Axe, Lord of Iron

Alignment: ???

Domains: Courage, Mysticism, War

Known Supernatural Servitors: ???

The Church: The Bearded Priests of Norvos serve a god whose name is known only to them, though beyond the temple's hallowed grounds they act with what they term straightforward honesty and their foes call 'blunt as and iron cudgel'. The wise man might consider that they have ruled Norvos ever since its founding no matter the machinations of its nobles. Beyond the wearing of beards as a distinctive sign of their calling all the priests of Norvos are required by their faith to bear an axe, ever ready to defend the faithful of the Lord of Iron from those who would wound or yoke them. All priests are expected to take part in ceremonial duels against newly-inducted Hearth-Guard the slave soldiers of the city once a year. While they are not expected to win specifically when a priest becomes too old to 'bear the axe with honor' as judged by his peers they must surrender all signs of authority and power within the church and withdraw into silent emditation and fasting until the end finds them. While some priests find this to be shameful way to meet their god and prefer death in battle, others argue that to live until 'your hand can no longer carry the axe' is the ultimate proof of one's skills as a warrior and protector of the city

Tenets of the Faith: Above all else the Lawgiver proclaimed upon the world the virtues of honesty, courage temperance and humility in the face of both the divine and one's fellow man who are all made in the image of the god. Austerity is thus a good guard against sins and excesses of the flesh with the measured lives under the voice of the Three Bells marking the broad bounds of a life of virtue. For trully great sins there can be no expunging save pain, either the hardship of battle or in times of peace self-inflicted trails chief among them flagellation. While the Faith of the Lord of Iron has no true universal mandate to convert the world apostasy among his chosen, saved from the debauchery of Valyria and the fires of the Doom is hardhly punished.

Worshipers by Region: Norvos and its domains.

Infrastructure: Grand temple in Norvos, Major temples in all its vassal cities
 
Why, there's the Whiskers Faction, the Goatee Faction, The Muttonchops Faction, and the Moustache Faction, of course! Along with the minor factions of Soulpatch and Sideburns.
Rumor has it that those among the Goatee Faction are the blackest of souls, foul beings of malice and spite who were born Evil. The goatee is merely an expression of their inner darkness.
 
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