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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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HOLD THE FUCKING DOOR.

IB4 Brynden the Broken takes over Westeros with absolutely no blood claim lolbrb going to the Wall again.

no jon it doesn't work like that
 
DragonParadox said:
I'll cover it the moment we have a break point for it, probably in 1-2 updates.



It's not like the iron Isles are rich in anything but iron and reavers with an extra helping of monsters these days if rumors are to be believed.
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I mean by the books it isn't just iron but a lot of base metals like lead and copper too. . .

And that's without taking into account the stuff that the Sea can provide, like whale oil, walrus ivory, seal pelts, etc

Hell, the Hoare's were able to leverage the economic benefits of the area to be able to conquer the Riverlands. . .
 
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Crake said:
IB4 Brynden the Broken takes over Westeros with absolutely no blood claim lolbrb going to the Wall again.
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This, but unironically.
Giving Brynden the job of managing Westeros may be a dick move to him personally (unless he's still super into it, and likes the idea of having his old job back but with a lot more power), but it would be a good decision IMO.
There might be a few rebellions among the Lords, but Brynden can handle all that!
 
As an aside. The entire buff scheme might not be wise @Crake I think a little would not go amiss, but Lord Redwyne has had a lot of experience dealing with the court of stars and can probably tell if somebody is "up to their gills in glamours" while speaking.

Also damn he was a pretty cool dude.

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[X] Crake
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
This, but unironically.
Giving Brynden the job of managing Westeros may be a dick move to him personally (unless he's still super into it, and likes the idea of having his old job back but with a lot more power), but it would be a good decision IMO.
There might be a few rebellions among the Lords, but Brynden can handle all that!
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There is the issue of succession.

And the legalism of the matter is I guess we're all going to just elect our King now? The whole situation should fall apart pretty much immediately. Everyone's decision-making rationale is irrational. It doesn't matter if Brynden is a political mastermind, he should have refused on the spot, forced Jon to take the Crown and acted to advise him. It would be much easier and he might keep things together another two or three generations with some planning.
 
BronzeTongue said:
Didn't we offer Theon Greyport? Even if he had wanted the iron islands his ancestors would have reached out to throttle him with his own DNA if he'd turned down that offer. :V
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Yes, we did. Both because Theon is a good little minion and as a statement to everyone in the Westerlands about the value of not causing Viserys Targaryen to nurse a grudge.
 
huh, i just remembered the first thing we saw Theon do in the quest was stab an illithid with a bone dagger
 
Well technically the first thing we saw him do as readers was scream in horror about what outrageous sociopathic or psychotic dickheads 90% of his family was.
 
Hm.
Actually, the talk about the skull collection (misread as a Skull throne), has me thinking:

We haven't actually voted on anything about Timmie's latest corpse, have we?
Mind, I might be all-out wrong. I've not been reading too closely lately.

What was our general idea?
Having Q-man make something out of her 5 skulls, right, @Azel?

...We also have the old 5 skulls, too.
We can make a marionette puppet put of those still! :V

What else we wanted having done with her?
 
egoo said:
Hm.
Actually, the talk about the skull collection (misread as a Skull throne), has me thinking:

We haven't actually voted on anything about Timmie's latest corpse, have we?
Mind, I might be all-out wrong. I've not been reading too closely lately.

What was our general idea?
Having Q-man make something out of her 5 skulls, right, @Azel?

...We also have the old 5 skulls, too.
We can make a marionette puppet put of those still! :V

What else we wanted having done with her?
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Trophy for the Hall of Horrors (already taken care of), Artifact Cloak for Dany which has to be voted on, possibly lesser cloaks for other Companions, something nice with the Skulls.

Tiamat has some damn good loot.

10/10 would slay again.
 
egoo said:
Hm.
Actually, the talk about the skull collection (misread as a Skull throne), has me thinking:

We haven't actually voted on anything about Timmie's latest corpse, have we?
Mind, I might be all-out wrong. I've not been reading too closely lately.

What was our general idea?
Having Q-man make something out of her 5 skulls, right, @Azel?

...We also have the old 5 skulls, too.
We can make a marionette puppet put of those still! :V

What else we wanted having done with her?
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i want at least to gice Dany a serpents sin cloak equivalent made out of timmie's scales, becouse then we would have a set of 2 cloaks made from being with the greed domain
 
Crake said:
There is the issue of succession.

And the legalism of the matter is I guess we're all going to just elect our King now? The whole situation should fall apart pretty much immediately. Everyone's decision-making rationale is irrational. It doesn't matter if Brynden is a political mastermind, he should have refused on the spot, forced Jon to take the Crown and acted to advise him. It would be much easier and he might keep things together another two or three generations with some planning.
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Wait, there's a misunderstanding here. I'm not talking about Brandon (Bran). I was talking about Brynden Rivers, Bloodraven. Putting this Brynden in charge of Westeros after our conquest would be amazing.
 
@TalonofAnathrax, I'll admit that my knowledge of your various Louis' is spotty and they kind of blend together for me. My recollection is that number 14 was generally a competent statesman, who was very much throwing the money out with both hands, but kept everything running and managed to centralize the government greatly through his spending habits. It was his successors, culminating with number 16 that kept up the the spendthrift, but lacked the goal orientation and competence to make that work for them.

This is probably far too simplistic and potentially flat out wrong, I just felt reasonably certain that Louis Mk. 14 was a better ruler then good old mass murderer Stalin.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Wait, there's a misunderstanding here. I'm not talking about Brandon (Bran). I was talking about Brynden Rivers, Bloodraven. Putting this Brynden in charge of Westeros after our conquest would be amazing.
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There won't be a "Westeros" post-conquest though. We will directly rule over the ducal-level titles, so that nobody gets any fancy ideas about claiming the iron puddle of slag and seceding.
 
Louis XIV (Louis Dieudonné; 5 September 1638 – 1 September 1715), known as Louis the Great (Louis le Grand) or the Sun King (le Roi Soleil), was King of France from 14 May 1643 until his death in 1715. His reign of 72 years and 110 days is the longest recorded of any monarch of a sovereign country in European history.[1][a] In the age of absolutism in Europe, Louis XIV's France was a leader in the growing centralisation of power.[2]
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Per Wikipedia.

I don't know about you, but by any metric when you rule by basically intimidating everyone into agreeing with you de facto but without any of the fancy in-between to convince the people you control everything is representative of their desires and personal rights, ruling for 72 years is fantastic proof you aren't absolutely incompetent. And if the bar is as low as "did not commit genocide", then well... you pass it. That's it.
 
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Need a few more votes, ya'll.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on May 24, 2020 at 2:46 PM, finished with 42 posts and 8 votes.
  • [X] Have this conversation in front of Horas, you know he respects you and would take you at your word if he would do more good keeping back from the conversation than not, but truth be told he seemed cannier than one who would try to shield Asha from his family's disapproval. It's better for open and clear communication in any relationship political or personal.
    -[X] Throw your full weight behind Asha in terms of vocal support (and obviously full royal backing in Asha's endeavor to reshape the Iron Islands economically, politically and to an extent culturally, as well as obviously militarily), plus a suite of social buffs like Divine Insight, Voice of the Dragon, Moment of Greatness, etc. and a ward from True Sight to give her the best chances of convincing them. At this point you count it astonishingly unlikely most Lords in the Reach do not make use of such enchantments during negotiations too, but it would work better to keep people guessing. Most don't have the ability to use True Sight for more than a minute regardless.
    --[X] Form a telepathic link with Asha as well, you have a better Sense Motive than her, might as well just give her a cheat sheet into what both Paxter and his lady wife are both likely thinking of her approach.
    [X] Suggest that Asha inform Horas of her intentions regardless
    [X] Take Asha to the Arbor and move on
    [X] Receive a report (Interlude series)
    -[X] From Ghoyan Drohe
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Azel said:
There won't be a "Westeros" post-conquest though. We will directly rule over the ducal-level titles, so that nobody gets any fancy ideas about claiming the iron puddle of slag and seceding.
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/puts on pedant hat

"Westeros" is still a convenient name to use when referring to the continent. I think it more likely that the "Seven Kingdoms" will no longer exist. It'll be the 42 provinces of Imperial Westeros (or 53, 37, etc).

/takes off pedant hat
 
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