And that there is the problem, they don't get to make this an opt out thing, if they get to do this, it will be as an opt in thing, where only people who actively choose to come to them participate.

Them having big parties with inhibition lowering magic is okay, provided only people who want to experience such things get involved, which mean if tokens were involved, they shouldn't mark who isn't participating, they should mark who is participating.

That makes a lot of sense to Viserys but not to the primordial spirits of revelry. They see self control as a sort of mask or armor, having to explicitly opt to lay down your armor at the door instead of a standing invitation would just seem rude to them.
 
That makes a lot of sense to Viserys but not to the primordial spirits of revelry. They see self control as a sort of mask or armor, having to explicitly opt to lay down your armor at the door instead of a standing invitation would just seem rude to them.


It definitely makes sense as a fae solution. Mythology is squicky a lot of the time.

All that being said.
 
It definitely makes sense as a fae solution. Mythology is squicky a lot of the time.

All that being said.
Yeah. I'm fine with tacitly ignoring these things if there are no complaints and everything remains strictly between consenting adults, but I'm entirely against relinquishing the right to come down like a ton of bricks on any skeevy shite going on.
 
@Azel, would you consider adding this to your plan? It throws a bone to Wildwood Fey in a way that might make our more structured approach to the bargain a bit more palatable.

-[] Allow the Fey of the Wildwood, perhaps with assistance from their more mercantile brethren (such as the Lyseni Fey of the Goblin Market), to host a festival which travels throughout the region. Those mortals who wish to participate in the revelry and be subjected to potentially Mind-Affecting Fey magics while on the festival grounds must be recognized as legal adults by Imperial law and wear a token purchased by them from the Wildwood Fey using Imperial currency.

[X] Azel
 
-[] Allow the Fey of the Wildwood, perhaps with assistance from their more mercantile brethren (such as the Lyseni Fey of the Goblin Market), to host a festival which travels throughout the region. Those mortals who wish to participate in the revelry and be subjected to potentially Mind-Affecting Fey magics while on the festival grounds must be recognized as legal adults by Imperial law and wear a token purchased by them from the Wildwood Fey using Imperial currency.
I mean...

Do we need to specifically allow people to have magic parties?

Wow, thats a new legal headache. Awesome.
 
@Azel, would you consider adding this to your plan? It throws a bone to Wildwood Fey in a way that might make our more structured approach to the bargain a bit more palatable.

-[] Allow the Fey of the Wildwood, perhaps with assistance from their more mercantile brethren (such as the Lyseni Fey of the Goblin Market), to host a festival which travels throughout the region. Those mortals who wish to participate in the revelry and be subjected to potentially Mind-Affecting Fey magics while on the festival grounds must be recognized as legal adults by Imperial law and wear a token purchased by them from the Wildwood Fey using Imperial currency.

[X] Azel
No. I'm categorically against making anything relating to mind affecting spells official policy in such a fashion. These contracts are about how these Fey will integrate into the Imperium, and we are not making Fey mindcontrol permissions a part of that.
 
I mean...

Do we need to specifically allow people to have magic parties?

Wow, thats a new legal headache. Awesome.
No. I'm categorically against making anything relating to mind affecting spells official policy in such a fashion. These contracts are about how these Fey will integrate into the Imperium, and we are not making Fey mindcontrol permissions a part of that.
Eh, just a thought, in case we needed to incentivize the Fey. Doesn't bother me if we can get by without it.
 
Eh, just a thought, in case we needed to incentivize the Fey. Doesn't bother me if we can get by without it.
I'm not against what you are proposing in of itself, but we need to keep the right to cancel that particular deal if it goes south.

We can talk about that once we have plucked a few weeds from our lawn in the Reach.
 
[X] Azel
I mean...

Do we need to specifically allow people to have magic parties?

Wow, thats a new legal headache. Awesome.
Its less allowing magic parties and more that many of the things that they'd do at those parties are currently illegal, or at least close enough to get them put under investigation.

It's not like our police can take some Satyr insisting "that they were totally asking for it" at his word when they see him with someone obviously effected by mind magic.

I think it's more than worth making legal use inconvenient to make it harder for the more fucked up stuff to slip by unnoticed. That party would be nothing but trouble from day one.
 
What we could do is sponsor two realm wide parties at the spring and fall equinox, for fertility and harvest respectively. That would be strictly without mind magic though.
 
[X] Draft contracts (50,000 IM)
-[X] You will recognise the sacred places of the Fey as their own baronies, with the local Fey ruler receiving the title.
-[X] This implies that the Fey need to maintain their own council and can send some of their members to the county level council as per the Imperial constitution. If they want to be represented at higher levels, they need to be elected in the regular process.
-[X] All Scholarium branches in the Imperium will have to create an office that deals with the concerns of the Fey in their area. Preferably this office will be staffed by Fey who are actively involved in the Scholarium themselves.
-[X] All matters that concern the life and limb of Fey, such as rulings for feeding on mortals, unforeseen magical events or similar urgent matters can be escalated directly to the Crown by Fey barons or the Scholariums Fey liaisons.
-[X] You will also sponsor two Imperium wide holidays / festivals, but there will be no exceptions from standing law in regards to mind affecting magical effects.
--[X] A fertility festival at the spring equinox.
--[X] A harvest festival at the fall equinox.

Added the festivals.
 
I'm afraid we are going to have to leave it at two updates today guys. I'm having trouble concentrating from being tired and I really would like to have a proper introduction to the Court of the Depths which I just don't feel up to right now.
 
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It would not be quite that bad, anyone who did not want to participate could stay inside, behind wards of cold iron and salt.

"The penalty for being ignorant of fey customs, homeless and/or poor enough to to be unable to afford the required protections is a night of non-consensual rape, possible pregnancies included"

It goes against all that we are building
 
On a complete tangent, I just found out my local Chinese restaurant has finally reopened after being closed for more than two months due to COVID19. Extra spicy Americanized Hunan Chicken for me tonight!

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