A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Rovos · May 10, 2020

Tomcost said:
But she won't get level 9 spells until level 17, right?

yeah but next lvl she will turn into a fey

DragonParadox · May 10, 2020

Tomcost said:
It has already been corrected, there was a missing "mother" after Gilly's

I had the same doubts as Crake here, so that's why I voiced my doubts loudly.

Crake said:
The ending lines are a bit confused in that it doesn't explicitly make it clear what is going on here, I think just being more descriptive about what Rina is seeing and also making the connection in text that this is the girl's mother's corpse being piloted by a Winter Fey, in addition to the fact that you accidentally'd a word in the OOC text leaving out "mother" after "Gilly's".

Thanks guys, editing.

Tomcost · May 10, 2020

Rovos said:
yeah but next lvl she will turn into a fey

But we need the capstone sidequest for that? We might as well do it now that we are here.

egoo · May 10, 2020

@DragonParadox, I wonder - could you enumerate all the actions of Winter that have allowed OGs a "free move" back at them this month, since the moment we went by to evacuate the Thenns?

Crake said:
She might get a Mythic Tier, though.

Feels like too easy an MT considering her level, and the amount of work that was put in towards theirs by the other Companions.

Rovos · May 10, 2020

Tomcost said:
But we need the capstone sidequest for that? We might as well do it now that we are here.

for the last time, we don't actually need the eidolon for her to turn into a fey, that has never been a requirement people just thought it was

egoo · May 10, 2020

Tomcost said:
But we need the capstone sidequest for that?

Not really, apparently.
There's a feature of her path locked behind the search for Non!Eidolon, but she's becoming a Fey regardless.

Crake · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
@DragonParadox, I wonder - could you enumerate all the actions of Winter that have allowed OGs a "free move" back at them, since the moment we went by to evacuate the Thenns?

Feels like too easy an MT considering her level, and the amount of work that was put in towards theirs by the other Companions.

Solo-ing a CR 15 encounter at Level 15 is basically equal to the milestone Waymar met, and this is also thematically appropriate.

Tomcost · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
Feels like too easy an MT considering her level, and the amount of work that was put in towards theirs by the other Companions.

Reminder that a CR 15 encounter should be resolved by a four-man party of level 15 adventurers to be considered standard. She is facing that on her own.

Rovos · May 10, 2020

Crake said:
Solo-ing a CR 15 encounter at Level 15 is basically equal to the milestone Waymar met, and this is also thematically appropriate.

i don't believe that. Waymar had to 1v1 an Other while his main way to dps was locked out. this is a scary monster

egoo · May 10, 2020

Crake said:
Solo-ing a CR 15 encounter at Level 15 is basically equal to the milestone Waymar met, and this is also thematically appropriate.

Eeeh, let's agree to disagree.

By this point, "how hard it is to get a Mythic Rank" is rather skewed - see Sir Richard, Lya, Vee.
Garin hasn't gotten his even now.

Tomcost · May 10, 2020

Rovos said:
i don't believe that. Waymar had to 1v1 an Other while his main way to dpd was locked out. this is a scary monster

It also is immune to cold!

Rovos · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
Eeeh, let's agree to disagree.

By this point, "how hard it is to get a Mythic Rank" is rather skewed - see Sir Richard, Lya, Vee.
Garin hasn't gotten his even now.

vee doesn't have one either man

DragonParadox · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
@DragonParadox, I wonder - could you enumerate all the actions of Winter that have allowed OGs a "free move" back at them this month, since the moment we went by to evacuate the Thenns?

Launching an all out attack on the Thenns was one move allowing one equally large proportionate response, or many small ones. Bloodraven being who he is he's going with the latter option.

Crake · May 10, 2020

DragonParadox said:
Launching an all out attack on the Thenns was one move allowing one equally large proportionate response, or many small ones. Bloodraven being who he is he's going with the latter option.

So we baited Winter, made them suffer severe losses for their attacks, and gave Bloodraven a free hand to act with the bonkers power we've given his divine benefactors?

What would Brynden do without us?

Crake · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
Eeeh, let's agree to disagree.

By this point, "how hard it is to get a Mythic Rank" is rather skewed - see Sir Richard, Lya, Vee.
Garin hasn't gotten his even now.

She's by definition solo-ing an encounter made for four of her, the monster is also immune to cold, and bypasses her own immunity.

I think by definition... the threat level and themes are equal in scope. You just don't like a relatively newer PC gaining a Tier before older characters like Garin.

egoo · May 10, 2020

DragonParadox said:
Launching an all out attack on the Thenns was one move allowing one equally large proportionate response, or many small ones. Bloodraven being who he is he's going with the latter option.

Wasn't that done on the pretense of "answering" to us coming to their turf and wreaking shit?

Rovos · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
Wasn't that done on the pretense of "answering" to us coming to their turf and wreaking shit?

i think it might have been the reason why they even could so that during summer. the move was their move but it was only allowed by us wrecking their shit

DragonParadox · May 10, 2020

Crake said:
She's by definition solo-ing an encounter made for four of her, the monster is also immune to cold, and bypasses her own immunity.

I think by definition... the threat level and themes are equal in scope. You just don't like a relatively newer PC gaining a Tier before older characters like Garin.

You do have a point this does echo Waymar's situation however that is one of the reasons she won't be getting a mythic rank. They are supposed to be unique and linked to the character's own growing legend. A duel fit Waymar, but it does not really fit Rina.

Don't worry though I have posibile steps planed out for her too.

Azel · May 10, 2020

I'm with @egoo on this not being even remotely worth a Mythic Rank.

But power has to creep I guess...

DragonParadox · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
Wasn't that done on the pretense of "answering" to us coming to their turf and wreaking shit?

Yes, hence why they could act so openly at all, that does not mean the Old Gods don't get a move for them moving in summer. It's not like Viserys is a greneseer.

Duesal · May 10, 2020

Crake said:
She's by definition solo-ing an encounter made for four of her, the monster is also immune to cold, and bypasses her own immunity.

I think by definition... the threat level and themes are equal in scope. You just don't like a relatively newer PC gaining a Tier before older characters like Garin.

I agree with @egoo, this seems thematically weaker to justify a Mythic Rank. It isn't even a proper Other.

This argument is like saying Valaena deserves a Mythic rank for beating that wight in Castle Black just because it was above her CR.

egoo · May 10, 2020

Crake said:
She's by definition solo-ing an encounter made for four of her, the monster is also immune to cold, and bypasses her own immunity.

I think by definition... the threat level and themes are equal in scope. You just don't like a relatively newer PC gaining a Tier before older characters like Garin.

True, but that's besides the point!
:anger:

I just really dont think she's had... any legend to get so far, not really.

The stuff we did when we saved her initially is 70% OGs, 25% us, and 5% her own will.
Since then she... socialized with Djinn, her father, a few other people, freezed some Efreeti on two-three separate boat-hunting occasions and she's now here.

The enemy may be well-firring thematically, but I don't feel like Rina has had anything significant enough done yet to get the "Legend-wrought power".
Least of all because she's not even Fey yet, if she was she'd kinda get an excuse for easier MTs.

Edit: ninja'ed, kinda

Duesal · May 10, 2020

egoo said:
True, but that's besides the point!

I just really dont think she's had... any legend to get so far, not really.

The stuff we did when we saved her initially is 70% OGs, 25% us, and 5% her own will.
Since then she... socialized with Djinn, her father, a few other people, freezed some Efreeti on two-three separate boat-hunting occasions and she's now here.

The enemy may be well-firring thematically, but I don't feel like Rina has had anything significant enough done yet to get the "Legend-wrought power".
Least of all because she's not even Fey yet, if she was she'd kinda get an excuse for easier MTs.

Edit: ninja'ed, kinda

I fully agree with all of this. If Rina gets a Mythic rank for this it'd feel really forced, @DragonParadox.

Crake · May 10, 2020

I guess Fey would have an easier time getting Mythic Power...

Rovos · May 10, 2020

Duesal said:
I fully agree with all of this. If Rina gets a Mythic rank for this it'd feel really forced, @DragonParadox.

he alreaddy said at the top of this page that she won't

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