A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Artemis1992 · May 7, 2020

Actually, what are the current rules on actions and interventions?

Can Viserys still act in missions he wasn't assigned to this month, or was that "Freebie" used up with our norther operation?

egoo · May 7, 2020

Artemis1992 said:
Actually, what are the current rules on actions and interventions?

Can Viserys still act in missions he wasn't assigned to this month, or was that "Freebie" used up with our norther operation?

We haven't followed this rule strictly for a while now.
Even if we technically should have.

Past month was especially bad in this case.
So we either forego, or double down, here.

Technically, this was the freebie, doing anything else that isnt an MA means not dealing with Fey/Reach.

Rovos · May 7, 2020

do we have any idea what type of giants these are now we have met one or are Westerosi Giants in a weird space of not really being any type of true giant (anymore)

egoo · May 7, 2020

Artemis1992 said:
Yes, but even Viserys and Companions only do one or two at most combat missions per month.

If I have a choice to send him to kill a minor mage that might become a middling undead mage, or to keep him in reserve in case Slaver's Bay summons a Pit Fiend, I know what I prefer.

Or we can do a whole lot of minor-to-our-level actions at once, like Viserys visiting all 3 Fey courts we know of in one month's span.

Or it could happen to be done by someone else, unrelated to us.
Happened before with redhats and some cursed hunter in Westeros.
Etc.

I'm not saying we should do this, I'm just not seeing the point to remove it from the list yet.

Bottom line, after this month I'm going to ask DP to roll through (almost) every action remaining and see if they "evolved" in any way (through our divination and espionage services for IC info mainly)

SeekerofLight · May 7, 2020

[X] Azel

egoo · May 7, 2020

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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 7, 2020 at 4:01 AM, finished with 41 posts and 13 votes.

13 people have voted
[X] Emperor Viserys I
-[X] You are a ruler from the south, but you have citizens from many places all over the world, such as the Thenns and the last Singers.
-[X] Furthermore you are sworn ally of the Old Gods, and sworn enemy of the cold ones and all their servants.
-[X] You have come to offer the giants asylum for the coming Long Night, or new lands for them to live in peace if they so desire.
- Azel
- egoo
- Duesal
- enigma1995
- silvanknight
- Annatar
- Goldfish
- Othan763
- Speed53066
- Tutan0ss
- Andy0915
- ryuan
- SeekerofLight

Azel · May 7, 2020

FYI, since I asked for omake purposes: Project Praetori finishes this month. We can start manufacturing super-soldiers next month.

Artemis1992 · May 7, 2020

Azel said:
FYI, since I asked for omake purposes: Project Praetori finishes this month. We can start manufacturing super-soldiers next month.

Still want to start on Clegane, or is he Companion enough not to need it by now?

I'm still not a fan of using that template on serious PCs and he is about 13 I think?

Azel · May 7, 2020

Artemis1992 said:
Still want to start on Clegane, or is he Companion enough not to need it by now?

I'm still not a fan of using that template on serious PCs and he is about 13 I think?

I'm still strongly in favour of making him one. And cramming him into Construct Armor. Especially since our Clegane Bowl should be better then that of the show.

Massgamer · May 7, 2020

[X] Azel

Artemis1992 · May 7, 2020

Azel said:
I'm still strongly in favour of making him one. And cramming him into Construct Armor. Especially since our Clegane Bowl should be better then that of the show.

I don't know, he's pretty good by himself.
With his equipment he should be capable of beating most fighters by himself.

Adding a big template now will cost him natural progress.

Azel · May 7, 2020

Artemis1992 said:
I don't know, he's pretty good by himself.
With his equipment he should be capable of beating most fighters by himself.

Adding a big template now will cost him natural progress.

Isn't his build mostly Fighter and we wanted him to retrain towards Initiator levels?

egoo · May 7, 2020

Azel said:
And cramming him into Construct Armor.

"Cram a Superhuman into a suit of armor" has a very definite association to it.

Proceed.

KnightofTempest · May 7, 2020

egoo said:
"Cram a Superhuman into a suit of armor" has a very definite association to it.

Proceed.

Pretty sure he would rather have us fix his burn scars than permanently entomb him in a construct

Artemis1992 · May 7, 2020

Azel said:
Isn't his build mostly Fighter and we wanted him to retrain towards Initiator levels?

Potentially yes.

For now he has a level of Occult Slayer, but between Richard and Liomond I think we can eventually get some Initiation going.

Azel · May 7, 2020

egoo said:
"Cram a Superhuman into a suit of armor" has a very definite association to it.

Proceed.

Power Armor, not Dreadnought.

I'm also reserving Dreadnought as a name for a large battleship.

egoo · May 7, 2020

Azel said:
Power Armor, not Dreadnought.

I'm aware.
You cannot blame me for wanting Walking Metal Bawkses for our elite non-Companions.

...well, within the sane lines. No dreadknights plz.

Azel · May 7, 2020

egoo said:
I'm aware.
You cannot blame me for wanting Walking Metal Bawkses for our elite non-Companions.

...well, within the sane lines. No dreadknights plz.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but it sounds like Heresy, so don't mention it any further.

Also, we got hover-tanks now, so that's something, isn't it?

T_of_A · May 7, 2020

[X] Azel

@Azel, can you please remove the "I" from your introduction?
IMO "Emperor Viserys I" is problematic for several reasons :

It assumes there will one day be another Emperor Viserys : let's not be defeatist in our long-term planning !
It forgets about the previous Viserys (he didn't claim the title of Emperor, but he was our direct ancestor...)
It's a very strange phrasing to use when speaking orally to someone who's from a tribal/clan system. He probably isn't exactly used to that sort of phrasing and the language associated with royal lineages.

Azel · May 7, 2020

TalonofAnathrax said:
[X] Azel

@Azel, can you please remove the "I" from your introduction?
IMO "Emperor Viserys I" is problematic for several reasons :

It assumes there will one day be another Emperor Viserys : let's not be defeatist in our long-term planning !

It forgets about the previous Viserys (he didn't claim the title of Emperor, but he was our direct ancestor...)

It's a very strange phrasing to use when speaking orally to someone who's from a tribal/clan system. He probably isn't exactly used to that sort of phrasing and the language associated with royal lineages.

Done. I've gotten into the habit of adding that to make it clear that we are not counting Iron Throne holders (which would make zero sense, since it's another title).

Artemis1992 · May 7, 2020

TalonofAnathrax said:
It forgets about the previous Viserys (he didn't claim the title of Emperor, but he was our direct ancestor...)

That is usually different in real history, I think.

It does matter if there was a King X I., if you are the first Emperor with the name X you get to use the I. again.

Similar if you were Lord Friedrich III. of something, but become King, you are then King Friedrich I.

Azel · May 7, 2020

See also James VI and I, who was the 6th James of Scotland and the first of England and Ireland.

James VI and I - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

DragonParadox · May 7, 2020

The technicalities of counting monarchs would likely be lost on giants regardless but I'll kep the discussion in mind for the future.

Vote closed.

Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on May 7, 2020 at 6:03 AM, finished with 59 posts and 15 votes.

15 people have voted
[X] Emperor Viserys
-[X] You are a ruler from the south, but you have citizens from many places all over the world, such as the Thenns and the last Singers.
-[X] Furthermore you are sworn ally of the Old Gods, and sworn enemy of the cold ones and all their servants.
-[X] You have come to offer the giants asylum for the coming Long Night, or new lands for them to live in peace if they so desire.
- Azel
- egoo
- Duesal
- enigma1995
- silvanknight
- Annatar
- Goldfish
- Othan763
- Speed53066
- Tutan0ss
- Andy0915
- ryuan
- SeekerofLight
- Massgamer
- T_of_A

Miriam · May 7, 2020

Can giants even pronounce "Viserys"?

Azel · May 7, 2020

DragonParadox said:
The technicalities of counting monarchs would likely be lost on giants regardless but I'll kep the discussion in mind for the future.

Vote closed.

The rule is: Count all previous holders of the title who shared the same givenname. Only append "the First" when there is a "the Second". The dynasty of the person does not matter.

If, say Robert Baratheon dies and Joffrey succeeds him, he would be King Joffrey. If his son is named Robert and succeeds him, it would be:

Robert I -> Joffrey -> Robert II

Now a revolution happens, the family is wiped and the only available pretender is a cousin named Joffrey Lannister. Then it would be:

Robert I -> Joffrey I -> Robert II -> Joffrey II

Now, Joffrey II likes Valyrian things and names his son Aegon, giving us:

Robert I -> Joffrey I -> Robert II -> Joffrey II -> Aegon VI

Because there were five previous Aegons on the Iron Throne.

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