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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Destrark said:
Okay, so map is now reaching into the future where the Palace is fully built rather than just beginning construction but whatever.
I think that's everything currently, I know someone said something about a magi-tech radar tower but I'm under the impression that's situated on its own little island and not the mainland.
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Looking awesome, dude. The Underwater District is coming along very nicely, too.

The Magitech Radar placement hasn't been firmly decided yet, but I'm thinking of having it be a subterranean installation.
 
@Azel, do you want to track down that loose Shadowbinder? I do agree with the suspicions that he's a fiend, or in some way connected to the Bloodstone Emperor. Considering how strong DP made the Bloodstone Emperor (apparently far stronger than the full CR 28 Ymeri) I wouldn't doubt if his influence spread much further than we hope. It can wait for after the palace of course, that scene shouldn't be rushed, but in general I feel like we should tie up the loose end where we can. For all we know we might stumble over a sacrifice or a potential recruit to be used in some other area, like research.
 
Duesal said:
@Azel, do you want to track down that loose Shadowbinder? I do agree with the suspicions that he's a fiend, or in some way connected to the Bloodstone Emperor. Considering how strong DP made the Bloodstone Emperor (apparently far stronger than the full CR 28 Ymeri) I wouldn't doubt if his influence spread much further than we hope. It can wait for after the palace of course, that scene shouldn't be rushed, but in general I feel like we should tie up the loose end where we can. For all we know we might stumble over a sacrifice or a potential recruit to be used in some other area, like research.
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Before we even bother trying to track him down in earnest, it would be simple to do a simple Divination focused on him. If it is blocked, we can immediately assume that he is a serious threat with significant resources, a high degree of magical power, or both. It's necessary information before we make any other plans related to him, IMO.
 
Goldfish said:
Before we even bother trying to track him down in earnest, it would be simple to do a simple Divination focused on him. If it is blocked, we can immediately assume that he is a serious threat with significant resources, a high degree of magical power, or both. It's necessary information before we make any other plans related to him, IMO.
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Shouldn't divinations on targets of interest be a given at this point? Especially someone we're suspicious is either connected to the Bloodstone Emperor or is outright just a Rakshasa?
 
Duesal said:
Shouldn't divinations on targets of interest be a given at this point? Especially someone we're suspicious is either connected to the Bloodstone Emperor or is outright just a Rakshasa?
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Yeah, but what I'm saying is that it would be better to know the results of that cursory Divination before making any other plans related to him.
 
What stumps me is they were confident enough to try setting up a magical school in Lorath of all places, which is directly in Braavos' sphere of influence, ergo inside of our sphere of influence. And he started on this directly after we brought in Braavos.

It seems a bit short-sighted.

Edit: Speaking of which, Lorath now needs a headmaster/mistress.
 
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Crake said:
What stumps me is they were confident enough to try setting up a magical school in Lorath of all places, which is directly in Braavos' sphere of influence, ergo inside of our sphere of influence. And he started on this directly after we brought in Braavos.

It seems a bit short-sighted.

Edit: Speaking of which, Lorath now needs a headmaster/mistress.
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Although I think he was probably trying to run a con of some sort, that doesn't mean he has any sort of backer or master pulling on his puppet strings. He could just be a lone mage who decided to set up shop and try to gather some temporal power of to go with his magical oomph.

The plan might have been to try to get set up in Lorath quickly enough to have an established power base there, or at least an air of legitimacy, so that when the Imperium expanded further in that direction and annexed the city he would be considered the resident authority on magic in the city and brought into the Scholarium as we sorta did with Horio in Tyrosh. If this is the case, we might have cockblocked him by just two or three months.
 
Goldfish said:
Although I think he was probably trying to run a con of some sort, that doesn't mean he has any sort of backer or master pulling on his puppet strings. He could just be a lone mage who decided to set up shop and try to gather some temporal power of to go with his magical oomph.

The plan might have been to try to get set up in Lorath quickly enough to have an established power base there, or at least an air of legitimacy, so that when the Imperium expanded further in that direction and annexed the city he would be considered the resident authority on magic in the city and brought into the Scholarium as we sorta did with Horio in Tyrosh. If this is the case, we might have cockblocked him by just two or three months.
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We probably would have left him in place... if in fact he was not just a conman or one of our enemies. Which seems more likely.
 
Goldfish said:
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that it would be better to know the results of that cursory Divination before making any other plans related to him.
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So we just make a vote with contingencies like we've been doing for a while.

If divinations reveal he's a Rakshasa or somehow connected to the Bloodstone Emperor, move to capture and/or kill.

If divinations reveal he's not an active threat, poke him and see if he could be convinced to use his talents elsewhere. While investigating further on the side, of course. It's stupid to trust anything from Asshai without thorough investigation.

It's pretty straightforward, and it doesn't need to be a long drawn-out process.
 
This guy being a viable target for recruitment/attack outta nowhere leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It would've been fine by me had we gotten this paranoid about him the moment Teana failed to meet up with him, but... now?
Why?
Isn't this the same "plot appears out of nowhere just because players suddenly want to do X and interrupts the overall flow"-stuff?

I'll include divining and dealing with him to the list of MAs for the 1st month if y'all so worried.
Preferably backgrounded, ofc.
 
egoo said:
This guy being a viable target for recruitment/attack outta nowhere leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It would've been fine by me had we gotten this paranoid about him the moment Teana failed to meet up with him, but... now?
Why?
Isn't this the same "plot appears out of nowhere just because players suddenly want to do X and interrupts the overall flow"-stuff?

I'll include divining and dealing with him to the list of MAs for the 1st month if y'all so worried.
Preferably backgrounded, ofc.
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I'm also pretty miffed we weren't alerted the second he ghosted Teana. That raises all kinds of red flags we would have investigated on the spot.
 
Sorcerer's Deep now has a population of 157,500~ people.

It's roughly twice as large as it was back in the Eighth Month when we held the Grand Tourney.
 
There was a lot more to do with the spreadsheet tonight than I was expecting and I'd rather not stay up late doing it as I'll just end up making mistakes I have to fix later on.

Presuming we'll do the usual thing and get the Turn vote tomorrow and then do interludes until we're ready to present a plan, what I'll probably end up doing is finish filling out the sheet when I get home, immediately crash, and then put together the turn plan before DP starts writing on Saturday.
 
DragonParadox said:
Poisoned Tides: Someone is spreading ill rumors about the legitimacy of Lord Monford Velaryon's young son throughout Driftmark, much to the distress of his lady wife. Given the Monterys is still well shy of his third year and his father's only direct heir with Valaena being missing it would create a murky succession indeed were the Lord of the Tides to die anytime soon.
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Wouldn't be surprised if this is Cersei's work. She's been snubbing all the Narrow Sea lords for years now, and with his daughter who was meant to marry Joffrey now openly being a Dragonlord of the Imperium? Yeah, House Velaryon has a target on their backs.
DragonParadox said:
At the World's Edge: Envoys from Elyria have arrived in Tolos to discuss trade and tribute with Governor Relath. He graciously accepted all their gifts before telling them than they aught to be talking to another dragon. Though the representatives of the Council of Elders might have declared themselves cheated under other circumstances one does not lightly accuse a dragon.
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While this was far from diplomatic, it does fill me with a strange sense of pride that Relath basically went, "Why are you talking to me? You know I serve a Dragon Emperor."

Maybe Elyria was just being cautious by making sure the dragon closer to home would tolerate them before reaching above.
DragonParadox said:
Brewing Treachery: Though the Green Prophet of Qohor has survived attacks by the old order time and again, both covert and overt, the mood among what remains of the city's aristocracy remains mutinous. Quite apparent from religious upheavals the taxes imposed, in part of help fend off the threat of famine, have not been popular with the major landholders, not even the ones who actually converted to the Green Faith. A petition is even now being formulated to curb the power of the priesthood in secular matters. What the current ruler of Qohor will think of it none of the agents newly inserted into the city can say.
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Fingers crossed for Shub Niggurath. She would be so, so perfect as the Black Goat.
 
Duesal said:
Maybe Elyria was just being cautious by making sure the dragon closer to home would tolerate them before reaching above.
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Or they thought in feudal terms.
Not like a regular lord needs his King's permission to start trading with another city.
Lords allow foreign merchants into their city by their own decision, if there isn't currently a war or embargo from their overlord.

This was a perfectly normal move, stopped by our unusual structure.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
Or they thought in feudal terms.
Not like a regular lord needs his King's permission to start trading with another city.
Lords allow foreign merchants into their city by their own decision, if there isn't currently a war or embargo from their overlord.

This was a perfectly normal move, stopped by our unusual structure.
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If it was normal trade then maybe, but unfortunately for Elyria we've been eyeing it as a conquest/annexation for the last few months. Relath as a Governor-General would be well aware of that, hence him telling their Council of Elders that they have to deal with us and not him. No way that Elyria would have realized that, though, so their move at poking Relath is perfectly understandable.
 
One look at the incompetence/backstabbing going on in Slaver's Bay and how we don't even need to occupy them to ruin them and cozying up with the Imperium is looking more and more appealing to Elyria by the second. To be honest I'm more surprised they demonstrated any degree of realpolitick about it though, the entire place is a cultural backwater after what Valyria did to it. Just take away Slaver's Bay one main export and they turn into lunatics and cultists.

At least New Ghiscar actually has a functioning economy. Which of course isn't saying much since we halted slave exports from the three Slaver Cities and overland trade isn't quite nearly as profitable or fast.

Though Qarth is still filthy rich due to exorbitant tolls and tariffs.
 
Crake said:
One look at the incompetence/backstabbing going on in Slaver's Bay and how we don't even need to occupy them to ruin them and cozying up with the Imperium is looking more and more appealing to Elyria by the second. To be honest I'm more surprised they demonstrated any degree of realpolitick about it though, the entire place is a cultural backwater after what Valyria did to it. Just take away Slaver's Bay one main export and they turn into lunatics and cultists.
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I imagine Elyria was already partially benefiting from proximity to Tolos and Mantarys. Before Slaver's Bay would have dominated the area, but now Elyria indirectly benefits from the protection of the Imperium thanks to how much Relath's territory overlaps with their own shipping. Not needing to worry about marauding slavers probably helps quite a bit.
Crake said:
At least New Ghiscar actually has a functioning economy. Which of course isn't saying much since we halted slave exports from the three Slaver Cities and overland trade isn't quite nearly as profitable or fast.
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Bleeding coin at an obscene rate, IIRC. Couldn't happen to better people.
Crake said:
Though Qarth is still filthy rich due to exorbitant tolls and tariffs.
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Qarth is definitely fine. Even with them being price gougers for their tolls, plenty of captains will just bite the bullet and pay through the nose for a shorter safer journey.
Jack vile Ripper said:
Whilst mysteriously keep eluding itself from our mind, whenever we think of Conquest.

Mayhaps it's because they have no beef against us and we have none for them?
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No dude, we're going to clash with them. The Warlocks of Qarth are bad news. They grow Ghost Grass, and they have anti-weirwoods. It's not that we're co-existing with them, we just haven't had the chance to come to blows yet.
 
Duesal said:
I imagine Elyria was already partially benefiting from proximity to Tolos and Mantarys. Before Slaver's Bay would have dominated the area, but now Elyria indirectly benefits from the protection of the Imperium thanks to how much Relath's territory overlaps with their own shipping. Not needing to worry about marauding slavers probably helps quite a bit.
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In the short wiki entry it sounds like Elyria is very much connected to Slaver's Bay, so they are more likely allies and trading partners to the slavers than victims.
 
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