We are reserving that scheme for retiring homesteaders from the Legion.

I am assuming you mean for the legion. At which point, yeah that makes sense. They have bled for us. They can use some land. Hmm, maybe the Dothraki Sea then. Once we get far enough, I don't see why not.

Edit: Although there is prob enough land in the Disputed Lands for Legion retirees and then some.
 
SD has divine mojo out of the wazoo. Trying to replicate it for KL would be a huge pain, making it an impractical choice of capital city.
 
I am assuming you mean for the legion. At which point, yeah that makes sense. They have bled for us. They can use some land. Hmm, maybe the Dothraki Sea then. Once we get far enough, I don't see why not.

Edit: Although there is prob enough land in the Disputed Lands for Legion retirees and then some.
That's the plan.
 
King's Landing is a good location in Westeros, but our Empire extends too far east and so SD is better. Not making it our capital also means that all it urgently needs is a once over with a Lyre of Building to make it livable for all those poor bastards. The rest we can fix later.
 
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  • [X] Extract a promise from him to meet again tomorrow. You know that there's a lot of things to process for him, so you will give him some time to calm down and think.
    -[X] Send Dany at night to figure out how to contact that Ulitharid, then wipe the memory of the visit.
    -[X] Meanwhile Viserys goes to Heaven's Shore to discuss the notion of rebelling Illithid with Ishmagnis.
    -[X] Meet with the Ulitharid to find out what they are doing and why.
    [X] Try to discover how to get into contact with the entities behind Sunset Shores
    -[X] Use Brain Spider and Probe Thoughts spells to extract all Lyan knows about Sunset Shores after rendering him unconscious, including who owns stakes in the company, which ships are owned directly or used by the company, who the captains of those ships are, etc., as well as any means he knows of to contact those truly behind the operations of Sunset Shores.
    --[X] When we return him to Greenshield, explain to Lyan just how much danger he and his family are in now, and that he best keep this meeting secret until we see him again. If he is contacted by his Sunset Shores handlers before we return to speak with him and his father, he should immediately tell them that we learned of his involvement with them and that we would consider meeting with them to establish a dialogue.
    --[X] If Danelle or Brandon objects to this, try to explain that we are trying to gather enough information to decide on a course of action, and right now we are far too ignorant. Everything we can learn is potentially helpful, and this route poses the least danger to Lyan and his family, at least in the short-term.
    -[X] Viserys, Richard, Lya, and Dany will travel to Heaven's Shore to arrange a meeting with Ishmagnis the Alhoon in hopes of learning all it is willing to share with us about internal Illithid politics, especially those such as itself who no longer pay heed to the power of an Elder Brain. Invite Brandon and Danelle along, if they think they can behave themselves in Heaven's Shore.
    -[X] Depending on what we learn from Lyan and Ishmagnis, we will determine our next step, either attempting to arrange a direct meeting with the Sunset Shores faction of Deep Ones or further investigating their dealings in order to discover more about their rebellion.
 
Part MMMCDXLV: Stranger's Secrets
Stranger's Secrets

Twenty-Eight Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

You would be lying to say that you are not at least curious about the notion of rebellious illithid and you do not make a habit of lying to yourself. While it is true that those of the Far Realm are inimical to life within the spheres more often than not, Xor has proven beyond all doubt that this not always the case and the Many further prove that not all illithidae need be foes. Still, there is a long way from Xor's gentle curiosity and the Many's innocent approach and those dread lords who have been devouring the brains of mortals day upon day for who knows how many years. Could you ever trust them even as far as working for common advantage?

Then you recall that you already encountered one such and trusted him at least as far as to strike a bargain. Ishmagnis... he too must have been a rebel or a defector at least. Perhaps me might be inclined to speak of his erstwhile kin for the right price.

"Thank you for your aid, Ser. I realize you have much to think upon. Better I think to meet again on the morrow," you step aside from the door. Unsurprisingly the knight rushes through.

"We should tell his father something," Danelle says worriedly. "Without those enchantments Ser Lyan will be a target. I do not imagine this... faction of mind-eaters looks any more kindly on tools that betray their purpose than any other."

"His father who tried to take Greyshield and then all but declared a feud on us? That fellow?" Brandon asks, and for a moment you are startled by the similarity not to Rina by the icy magic that marks them both, but Vee. "They dug their own graves, they should dig their way back out if they fancy seeing daylight."

"I strongly suspect this cabal is too secretive to act in the open and in a matter of hours," you point out. "More to the point if any of us show up with a frightened Ser Lyan along we would look like we're dragging a prisoner along..."

"Because that is exactly what we would be doing," Dany interjects.

"We can keep watch on him and his family from afar today and approach them tomorrow one way or another," you finish. Silently to your sister you add: "Enter his dreams tonight, find out how to contact the the upper echelons of Sunset Shores."

Both Dany and Danelle nod, though for different reasons, and while the Chosen's nod is reluctant, perhaps guessing that you might have some other plan, Dany's mind presence is tinged with curiosity. One thing has not changed since she was six and practically jumped to hug Xor, she is always interested to meet new types of people. Though you are unlikely to be striking any close friendships with this cabal of rebels you might yet profit thereby.

***​

"I'm coming with you, Lya and the princess can watch for squids," Ser Richard says later when you explain where you are going. He is usually less blunt than than, but given that it's Heaven's Shore you can hardly say you are surprised.

"Of course," you nod in acceptance and once more in thanks of leal service

You could have done without seeing the defiled sky, but some perverse part of your mind inclined you to glance up, to see if it is a bad as you remembered. It is worse, some things memory alone cannot contain, or perhaps refuses to.

Shaking off the though you enter the Herald's Respite under the arch of polished white stone. In any mortal land this would have been a winesink or alehouse, here it is something halfway between a house of ease and a library. Here one might find upon ornate marble shelves the poetry of yesteryear, grand and tragic, wondrous and if one looks hard enough even hopeful. Here too are books not entirely approved by the reigning lords, celestial or infernal, and here in darkened corners are traded dreams of an unfallen realm.

"Hail Ishmagnis," you say, meeting the black eyes and withered face of the undead mage with a courteous bow. "I seek a bargain."

"Ah..." the sound trails off a little too long, as though he had trained himself to interject these small exclamations into speech. "Not of the usual sort I would wager. What do you wish to know?"

"I am not a stranger to the kindred to which you were born, Master Ishmagnis, and I do not think it will come as any great surprise to you that some of those meetings have been... adversarial."

"Indeed not," he shakes his head in amusement, tentacles almost sweeping over the table.

"However, I do not know near as much as I would wish on the subject." You sip your wine, hardly tasting it, though it is finer than many a mortal vintage. "Tell me, how likely is it for an illithid to rebel against the One who rules them and how might such a deed be done?"

"You ask for dangerous knowledge, young mage. Dangerous to tell and to hear," the alhoon's dry voice rasps. "What do you offer in exchange?"

"What do you wish to know?" you turn the question back upon him.

"Here curiosity wars with practicality. I would very much wish to know who you are who walks shrouded from a seer's gaze with sure step beneath the eyes of angels and devils alike only to vanish without a trace, but if you would not share of yourself I am interested in other tales of distant lands, perhaps also in magic should it be relevant to my art."

What do you offer Ishmagnis for the information you desire?

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OOC: I hope I got Ishmagnis down properly here. Also, don't worry about the other patrons around. You can carry on the conversation of sensitive topics by telepathy so no need to worry about being overheard.
 
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Considering the Fleabottom is famous for being the place where the piss of the entire city converges, it's also a natural place to start renovations.

Resettle the people, bulldoze everything and the rebuild it from scratch, starting with underground sanitation. You can take water from the Blackwater and the Dragon Pit could be repurposed as a Colosseum while using the lower chambers to provide elevated water storage. From the you can provide running water to the new Fleabottom apartments and villas.

Lifting the water from the Blackwater to the Dragon Pit could be easily done by steam power. Add some more furnaces and you can also add some unobtrusive cannon batteries to that hill.
 
@DragonParadox Isn't it funny how we've been gathering a small landed nobility for Draconys March but with every single addition it's becoming more capable of forming an adventuring party out of its constituent officials? Aemon, Balon and Ser Dregaire just need another Baron who's specialty is sneakiness and they could probably group up and be scrupulously effective local troubleshooters. 😂
 
@DragonParadox Isn't it funny how we've been gathering a small landed nobility for Draconys March but with every single addition it's becoming more capable of forming an adventuring party out of its constituent officials? Aemon, Balon and Ser Dregaire just need another Baron who's specialty is sneakiness and they could probably group up and be scrupulously effective local troubleshooters. 😂
How about a roguish bard? Preferably also spoony?
 
If you don't wanna pay in information maybe we can pay in our celestial apple drinks?
... You now put an image of Viserys trying to wiggle out of having to pay by having the Ishmagnis "treated to a drink".
While blasting draconic charm all the way, probably.

thanks.

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Actually on that thought. Like we can create creatures that are great warriors, can we build creatures that can use sneak attacks. Because that thing massively enhances anythings deadliness. Especially on something like the umbral spies but combat speced.
 
Actually on that thought. Like we can create creatures that are great warriors, can we build creatures that can use sneak attacks. Because that thing massively enhances anythings deadliness. Especially on something like the umbral spies but combat speced.
Sneaky Seekers would definitely be in high demand by the Inquisition.
Since we are in Heaven's Shore can we shop?
I'd like to buy some more slaves if possible.

Heaven's Shore has the best slaves.
 
Actually on that thought. Like we can create creatures that are great warriors, can we build creatures that can use sneak attacks. Because that thing massively enhances anythings deadliness. Especially on something like the umbral spies but combat speced.
Rogue Creature template. That is what you are looking for I believe. You just need a good chasis.
 
... You now put an image of Viserys trying to wiggle out of having to pay by having the Ishmagnis "treated to a drink".
While blasting draconic charm all the way, probably.

thanks.

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I mean he is a dragon.

The only thing more, eh, adventurous, is a human bard.

Innuendo aside, what exactly are we willing to give here? Knowledge is power and we can be sure that he'd be willing to sell whatever we told him for the right price. He also will be on the look out for falsehoods that he can verify and since he's such a unique resource I'd rather not burn this particular bridge.

Personally I say magic would be the safest bet. While the type of spell might tell him some of the resources we have to bare it would not tell him where we're based or who we are. Both of those are far to precious to trust to an information broker.
 
[X] "A measure of trust begets trust in turn. Tell me, Ishmagnis, what do you who's taken refuge under the skies of broken Heaven know of the Plane of Balance, to whom so many vie like a pack of jackals expecting ripe flesh only to come away again with bleeding lips and torn jowls?" Tit for tat. What he shares with us will be met with more until we are sure that we can work together in mutual self interest.
 
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