[X] Plan Grabbing Everything Of Value
-[X] Recruit Old Jon, offering him a modest stipend in return for letting the Scholarium study his curse / blessing. You would also hire him as a ranger or similar if he is so inclined.
-[X] Kill Lord Luthor to tie up that loose end, then chuck his body into the Flesh Forge to gain the Wereboar Template and hopefully more knowledge about lycanthropy in general.
-[X] Proceed to go to Lord Elwood and diplomance him in the usual fashion. Indirectly blame the death on his father on Fey magic, without making any clear accusations, while presenting yourself as a source of reliable magical protection.
 
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To be honest I don't really want to strike a deal with the mother on principle, since every single one I can think of to make her our own puppet who is puppeting the Lord involves blackmail.

I was willing to visit blackmail upon Lord Tyrell because it was really his own undoing, not any bit of scheming or blackhearted-ness on our part, so if he tried to go against us removing him would be straight forward and be a simple pleasure.

But we genuinely want the loyalty of whoever rules in Grassy Vale lands and that is something she is incapable of giving us. She is a poisoned chalice, easy to control now, bad for later prospects.

I think most of our work should hinge on Lord Elwood instead.
 
[X] Plan Grabbing Everything Of Value
-[X] Recruit Old Jon, offering him a modest stipend in return for letting the Scholarium study his curse / blessing. You would also hire him as a ranger or similar if he is so inclined.
-[X] Kill Lord Luthor (the old one) to tie up that loose end, then chuck his body into the Flesh Forge to gain the Wereboar Template and hopefully more knowledge about lycanthropy in general.
-[X] Proceed to go to Lord Luthor (the new one) and diplomance him in the usual fashion while blaming the death of his father on a plot by the Court of Stars.
Okay but where's our proof?
 
Trials of Beasts and Men

Twenty-Sixth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

Finding a boar in a forest, even one that is also a man, is ordinarily no easy feat, but with the ruin of Old Jon's life all around you, divination foci are easy to come by. You settle upon an old skinning knife, its dear bone handle tied with sinew likely from the same beast, its iron blade dull and cracked. Your image ripples in the scrying glass, and then you have your answer. You see not one silver-hided boar but two, tusks locked, grunting with rage and pain. Old Jon had found his former lord.

It is clear that no matter the form, a man's reason, even driven by rage and vengeance, will win out over blind savagery. Part of you wants to let the tragedy before you play out to its last act, a fitting fate for a man who thought nothing of putting his own subjects to the sword for a hunting trophy, but you might yet have use for the former lord of Grassfield Keep.

In a moment, all three of you are carried to the clearing the mirror shows, and before either of the two combatants can even notice your presence, Lya casts slumber upon them both.

"Well isn't this a proper pile of shit," Ser Richard says in disgust looking over the two now slumbering foes. "Old Luthor's going to want the poacher's head now more than ever if we send him back to be lord of the land. Not sure he has any business ruling in a pigsty let alone a keep. Tried to go hunting a silver boar with iron blades and no magic just to say he did it..."

"There's the fact that he's a heartless son of a bitch, too," Lya points out dryly.

"If that barred men from from lordship we'd have to topple half the rulers of the realm," the knight shrugs with a faint click of steel on steel.

"Be that as it may, I for one don't trust someone who is both a fool and undutiful to understand why he should strive to be better at his appointed task. From the sounds of it, his son merely distrusts magic. We've dealt with such before and likely will again."

"There's the trouble of his mother, too," you muse, not yet inclined one way or the other. "She was ruthless enough to condemn her husband to death over the curse. Either she was always planning to rule through her son, or she despises all thought of sorcery that much. Neither bode well for the rule of these lands. Without revealing her part in the plot, removing her from the young lord's counsel would be more difficult." You could assassinate her of, course, but you do not wish to kill the kin of a lord whose pledge you wish to keep.

"So bring back his corpse, the real one this time," Lya replies still looking coldly down at the slumbering Lord Luthor. "It should revert to human form in death."

"And accuse Lord Elwood's mother on the basis of that alone?" you ask dubiously. "She would cry witchcraft and trickery in a thrice. I might be able to persuade him otherwise, but only if he's of a mind to listen."

What do you do next?

[] Awaken Lord Luthor and clear his mind, offering to restore his lordship and explaining what had happened in his absence

[] Finish what Old Jon started and present the old lord's body to Lord Elwood as proof of the intrigues swirling around him

[] Write in


OOC: I keep getting really short updates today for some reason. I might end up doing four like in the old days depending on how long the third one ends up being. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.

There is a third option about why the Lady of the house didn't want her husband to return. He could have just been a colossal asshole.
 
[x] Awaken Lord Luthor and clear his mind, tell him that as his king, you have sentenced him to abdicate in favor of his son for incompetence and cruelty

Maybe add in a prison term, that he can exchange for a term in the army, but either way he will let his son know he's alive, and then leave these lands.
 
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That means the Fey can beat us by revealing the truth though.
Always a bad situation for me.
Hm... point. That formulation is bad.

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[X] Plan Grabbing Everything Of Value
-[X] Recruit Old Jon, offering him a modest stipend in return for letting the Scholarium study his curse / blessing. You would also hire him as a ranger or similar if he is so inclined.
-[X] Kill Lord Luthor to tie up that loose end, then chuck his body into the Flesh Forge to gain the Wereboar Template and hopefully more knowledge about lycanthropy in general.
-[X] Proceed to go to Lord Elwood and diplomance him in the usual fashion. Indirectly blame the death on his father on Fey magic, without making any clear accusations, while presenting yourself as a source of reliable magical protection.
 
There are spells made to heal Constructs and repair objects. Anu has even crafted himself a version of a Healing Belt which repair Constructs instead.

Repair Light Damage – Spell – D&D Tools

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There are a whole series of them, like the Cure spell line, except they're arcane rather than divine in nature.

There is also Make Whole and Greater Make Whole;

Make Whole – d20PFSRD


And the really great Hammer of Mending;


Not to mention the powerful but expensive Memory of Function;


Like I said earlier, I prefer the Channel Energy mechanic to Turn/Rebuking, but that's what we have to work with. I don't really see why we need to introduce a special mechanic just for Constructs when there are already so many options available to repair them. An item which converts a healing spell into one which can affect Constructs would be much more reasonable, IMO, rather than using Turning/Rebuking.
That's fair enough, my thought was that those spells take slots that can't be used for anything else and that the turn mechanic is of limited use most of the time. It's especially unhelpful on a construct space ship where even having undead present to turn in the first place means something has gone horribly wrong.

Something like this would let even a relatively weak cleric heal about the same amount of damage as the more cost effective spells on that list without taking up slots or old out space. A mixed group with significantly different medical needs means the cleric would need to split space in their loadout between two types of healing, buffs, combat, and any utility spells they need.

They could just take more healers and specialize, but that opens the risk of the wrong kind of healer being around at the wrong time to heal whoever's injured. For supporting constructs an item of this type would simplify everything and make mixed units more viable.

On a ship it gets similar, but it does still make it much easier to patch up and doesn't remove any of the other options.

Converting healing spells would work just fine as an alternative, but I still think there's slightly more value in the approach I suggested if we can swing it.
 
Okay. I definitwly think that telling the truth is the best thing we could do. And because it preevents others from using the truth aginst us.
 
The simple fact if the matter is that the template is much more valuable then the allegiance of this particular house. They are firmly against the CoS, which is the main objective.
 
Yeah, like, what if we don't kill anyone, but present our findings to Lord Elwood, warts and all? His father murdering a bunch of peasants in a mad rage, Old Jon fighting the monster his father became rather than going on a rampage against other peasants?

At least we would have hard evidence of the fact in the form of both men.
 
Before we go murder...please remember that the subject needs to be alive for us to gain the template IE they need to be melted alive. This is why we don't have the Hero Killer template. So don't murder. Catch.
 
That's fair enough, my thought was that those spells take slots that can't be used for anything else and that the turn mechanic is of limited use most of the time. It's especially unhelpful on a construct space ship where even having undead present to turn in the first place means something has gone horribly wrong.

Something like this would let even a relatively weak cleric heal about the same amount of damage as the more cost effective spells on that list without taking up slots or old out space. A mixed group with significantly different medical needs means the cleric would need to split space in their loadout between two types of healing, buffs, combat, and any utility spells they need.

They could just take more healers and specialize, but that opens the risk of the wrong kind of healer being around at the wrong time to heal whoever's injured. For supporting constructs an item of this type would simplify everything and make mixed units more viable.

On a ship it gets similar, but it does still make it much easier to patch up and doesn't remove any of the other options.

Converting healing spells would work just fine as an alternative, but I still think there's slightly more value in the approach I suggested if we can swing it.
Ah, I see your concern. It might help to know that each Moonchaser is equipped with magical repair tools among the gear issues to the engineering crew.

Assigned to Moonchaser Engineers:
We're also building a skydock facility for our ships, one which includes three Rods of Greater Make Whole and a Memory of Function effect.
 
[X] Keep Old Jon aside for later recruitment. Studying his curse could reveal new things about lycanthropy in general, and in the worst case where you hit a brick wall he could infect an enemy later on so that you could break down the template from the roots up in the Flesh Forge. Shield his presence from Fey divination with a Shadowforged Mindblank.
--[X] Bring Lord Luthor to Lord Elwood and break down the chain of events, barring the previously mentioned detail. The original silver beast died of his wounds and you have already taken the corpse in for study of their affliction. Whatever Lord Elwood's decision regarding his father is, you have enough leverage at this point over both of them that if you are forced to break the latter's curse, you can press the Lord into making changes suited for your own style of rulership, and if he fails to measure up to them, you can ensure a competent Lord over these lands by taking Lord Elwood in to learn in Sorcerer's Deep, both of magic so he is better equipped to deal with the troubles of these times, but also compassion among others not quite so heartless as both of his parents.
 
Feels like we are throwing these around lately.
Sure he's worth that?

Ultimatly a minor house is propably less valuable that a Mindblank.
I'm mostly doing it to ensure ironclad Fey trickery defenses, and also because someone really wanted to have the Lycanthropy research materials, and this gets them both of them one way or another.
 
Ah, I see your concern. It might help to know that each Moonchaser is equipped with magical repair tools among the gear issues to the engineering crew.

Assigned to Moonchaser Engineers:
We're also building a skydock facility for our ships, one which includes three Rods of Greater Make Whole and a Memory of Function effect.
Those are nice, and remove most of my concern. I would like to point out that time is still a factor for some of this. Supposing that we could get something like I suggested, a level 1 cleric with 12 points of charisma could on average heal 9 hp of damage per action 4 times a day. A level 2 sorcerer casting make whole will only hit 7 on average and will take 10 minutes to do so. By the time they are both level 5 and make whole caps out the cleric, assuming they advance their cha to 14, could heal 14 hp a turn to the sorcerer's 17 with the same time difference.

Suppose we had a wyvern fighter fly in with heavy damage in the middle of a fight. A trauma team needs to get into the wreck to save the pilot, but the damage is making it difficult to open. The level one cleric could easily drop 36 hp on the hatch in 4 rounds and still have their limited slots ready to support first aid. The sorcerer would be 96 rounds from the end of make whole.

That is a significant amount of time when it comes to saving someone's life, and the level of healing is high enough to make it a viable emergency tool while maintaining balance.
 
Actually I have a question.

@DragonParadox a long time ago you ruled that one could get a template from a living creature without melting it in the forge. Would this be a research action or can this be done as a minor action?
 
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