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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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One Autumn Leaf said:
So what you are saying is that we can terraform Dorne?
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We're actively planning on it. Worry about the Modrons trying to punish us no longer apply.

Wouldn't even be that hard. Just make a bunch of big lakes as a reserve water source, cart in hundreds of thousands of tons of fertile volcanic soil courtesy of Shadow of the Doom, send over leshy druids to grow trees to help pack down the soil where appropriate, etc.
 
DakkaMania said:
Question for the thread:

Is the Everfire smelter a viable desalination plant if modified or are there more practical variants?

I was thinking of using a series of those to take in sea water on the dornish coast, evaporate the water and harvest the salt for economic use while providing freshwater to the cities. Maybe even pipe it into the interior and create artificial lakes as reservoirs for settlements or agricultural purposes. Mostly cash crops like cotton, fruits and so on. Stuff that needs a lot of sun and water and increases availability to the lower classes. And once winter hits, they can provide basic foods to stretch stockpiles as I think they are warm enough even in winter.

There is also using them for magitech Frostpunk in the North. (Or other places once the White Walkers move in force). Pipe around heated water as an artificial hot spring.

Was also thinking about Titan Tools. Are there cheap ass variants that are viable for battlefield shaping? Not mid-combat, but battlefield engineering for the Legion. Small range, nothing fancy. Just earthworks.
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There is a lesser earth moving spell that might fit what you're thinking about, but I cannot recall the name.

Move Earth is very good for that, though. The Titan's Tools are a set of items, one of which includes Move Earth, but not all of them need to be used together. A single Move Earth tool per Legion wouldn't be a bad investment, eventually.
 
Duesal said:
Wouldn't even be that hard. Just make a bunch of big lakes as a reserve water source, cart in hundreds of thousands of tons of fertile volcanic soil courtesy of Shadow of the Doom, send over leshy druids to grow trees to help pack down the soil where appropriate, etc.
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Put it at a higher elevation than its surroundings and we can probably make our lives much easier. What with water flow and all that.
 
Duesal said:
That seems like something we'd be able to just buy at Vialesk.
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Unlikely, IMO. Why bother producing expensive items to create water when you are surrounded by the stuff? Titan's Tools on the Plane of Earth make sense because they're mostly about shaping what's already there.

I would expect Vialesk to instead have items of Control Water and Dispel Water for regular sales.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Put it at a higher elevation than its surroundings and we can probably make our lives much easier. What with water flow and all that.
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We can definitely make some mountain lakes, though we need to do proper city planning to make sure potential flooding can't fuck over nearby settlements.
Goldfish said:
Unlikely, IMO. Why bother producing expensive items to create water when you are surrounded by the stuff? Titan's Tools on the Plane of Earth make sense because they're mostly about shaping what's already there.

I would expect Vialesk to instead have items of Control Water and Dispel Water for regular sales.
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I was mainly referring to commissions. Lya crafting time is a limited resource.
 
Flood channels would help. If there's a sharp increase in water levels of the reservoirs, you can just open the channels up and it redirects it to other reservoirs intentionally kept at a lower level.
 
Duesal said:
We can definitely make some mountain lakes, though we need to do proper city planning to make sure potential flooding can't fuck over nearby settlements.
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Maybe glaciers? Save on excavation and get a steady source of water feeding into rivers.

Or to be extra cheeky, use some kind of portal, put it on the end of a regular river and have the freshwater reappear in Dorne instead of going into the ocean. Dunno if there are useful mechanics for that that might be cheaper.

The Grass Sea might be another good target for this kind of stuff. Or any of the dry areas in the empire. The Grass Sea, if it is like the Eurasian Steppe, is usually short on water. Which is why nomads were so common.
 
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  • [X] Point out your concerns that the two of them care for or at least take an interest in the well-being of the hatchlings which might spring from such a joining, and measures be taken to assuage any worries of dereliction of that duty. The reasoning is even pragmatic from your perspective--Tiamat gets the chance to tempt any Chromatic even before they have hatched, and while you have the tools, both of mind and dream, to help advise and persuade them from this path, it seems more likely to cause her lasting harm if the ones who sire future dragons spurn her at every turn in our collective life cycle.
    -[X] The greatest proof that they have forsworn Tiamat in more than mere word is in deed, and you can think of no greater deed than that which would convince you, not even shared battle as with Amrelath and certainly not destruction which you had to turn upon the Mother of Wyrms' own works.
    -[X] To make it painfully explicit, if one is not able to read between the lines about what motivates Viserys here, the bare minimum competency in "parenthood" he expects out of dragon vassals is that they teach their children Imperial Law, and the expectation that they follow it within its borders. Protections are also forfeit to those who would leave its borders only to drag in pursuit of justice after them, expecting protection from Viserys for their transgressions is unacceptable under the same clause, and even worse if it causes a conflict with an outside power.
    --[X] Viserys will look with favor upon those who manage to instill some actual life lessons and form lasting relationships with those they raise. Protection from harm before one has managed to grow old enough to defend oneself is also a minimum expectation.
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Part MMMCCCLXXII: By Dragons' Wit
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    • By Dragons' Wit ​

    Sixteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

    While the prospect of true children of Tiamat growing more numerous in your empire does not exactly fill you with good cheer Amrelath and even Ysandrix have proven that they can dwell within a larger society without harm, that they can in fact be helpful so long as the worst of their instincts... of your instincts, for you have felt their touch often enough, are held at bay. One can hardly count upon individual choice and reason or circumstance to see that done.

    "The greatest proof that you could give that you have forsworn Her not only in word but deed is to care for any hatchlings that may spring from any joining between you," you proclaim to a somewhat wary to attentive Zerylaz. "Firstly, that you teach respect for imperial law and do not set out brashly into other lands bringing war and strife to my doorstep unlooked for. If you are actually minded to form a true relationship with your get and encourage it among them I would look to it with favor."

    "Pardon, Great One," the young dragon interjects, a gleam more of mischief than malice in his eye. "But it seems to me that you are encouraging us to be more like the Old Lords of the Fourteen, those called tyrants and accursed by the land whose heritage you claim."

    You allow a genuine chuckle to escape your lips before answering with a saying that feels as old as dragonkind. "If mine enemy should choose to eat meat, I will not strive to subsist on rocks only to spite him. Being a part of society is helpful, having that society exist only to cater to one's cruelest whims is not, as the fate of those you named shows."

    A pledge is sworn then, solemn but without needless formality: "Under your wings I fly, flame and talon, mind and magic by your will unleashed."

    "Under my wings guarded you fly," it is only when you speak the closing formula that you realize it is the same one by which the Elder Dragons bound the others before the Rise of the Fourteen and the dawn of Valyria. Strange to have dredged it back from oblivion, but as with so many other shards of the past you will see it mortared into a new edifice.

    ***​

    Alas that you are not the only one capable to planning for the future, nor is Tiamat as thoughtless as the dragon who perished on the outskirts of Valyria. When you make use of a small measure of the power glittering within the Well of Eternity to seek out the last young dragon whom Yss had not been able to discover, the soul-deep bond offers you the answer readily enough, but it is not one you appreciate: 'In the Court of the Great Sultan, Heir of Iblis the Accursed, sanctuary claimed and given.'

    "I don't think Maelor would appreciate it if we showed up in the middle of the Sultan's palace to wreak havoc," Dany notes with dust dry humor. "Still, perhaps when we deal with the Forge we could also speak to Lizzirth."

    "Speak?" Ser Richard shakes his head, annoyed at having discovered one more enemy out of reach.

    "She has not done anything too terrible that we know of," your sister points out reasonably. "True, seeking sanctuary of the Brazen Throne is frustrating, but being clever is hardly reason to kill someone out of hand. Indeed it would give them all the more reason to turn if presented with the right incentive."

    What do you do next?

    [] Write in

    OOC: You guys can suggest an interlude chain if you like, not just what to do next as Viserys.
     
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    • Is there no reason we can not have someone who has lain eyes on her use a sending stone to reach out to her @DragonParadox?

    Perhaps Blackheart would like that stay of execution?
     
    Well, that was a waste.

    [X] Meet with the rulers of Lorath as they requested.
    -[X] Have someone appropriate of your minions look into the shadow-mage that set up a school in "surprising" likeness of Scholarum there.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    Alas that you are not the only one capable to planning for the future, nor is Tiamat as thoughtless as the dragon who persihed on the outskirts of Valyria. When you make use of a small measure of the power glittering within the Well of Eternity to seek out the last young dragon whom Yss had not been able to discover, the soul-deep bond offers you the answer readily enough, but it is not one you appreciate: 'In the Court of the Great Sultan, Heir of Iblis the Accursed, sanctuary claimed and given.'
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    Well, that's that. She's not worth potentially disrupting Maelor and Malarys' operation in the City of Brass.
     
    [X] Have Blackheart brought before you. Offer him a stay of execution if he cooperates. If he does, pending interrogation for any lingering contingencies he might be aware of, he will be placed on provisional house arrest, pending good behavior, and then an Inquisition minder thereafter, but he will be as free as most other citizens of the Imperium.
    -[X] We will also examine him before even making the offer rather closely to determine whether or not Lizzirth would have reason to distrust him. Depending on the degree of distrust we will decide if it is a wise idea to make him the messenger.

    [X] Sandor Level Up
    -[X] Class: +1 Occult Slayer
    -[X] Skills (6 points): +2 Intimidate, +2 Knowledge (Arcana), +2 Spellcraft

    [X] Argo Level Up
    -[X] Class: +1 Occult Slayer
    -[X] Skills (2 points): +1 Knowledge (Arcana), +1 Spellcraft

    DragonParadox said:
    That works, but it would not really allow you to leverage Viserys's social skills at all. It would just be pure reputation and whatever trust she has for Blackheart's word.
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    Our reputation on that particular end is as good as it is ever going to get. True, Blackheart's word might be a sticking point. But we can examine his mind closely for memories of their encounters.
     
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    [X] Crake
    The guy wasn't F!Aegon's inner circle, so I care little for us sparing him.
     
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