Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[X][Role] Group Sustain
[X] Growth
[X] Renewal
[X] Hearth

Didn't think I was going to vote but I really like the themes for this art.
 
[X][Role] Personal Resist
[X][Role] Defensive Dispel
[X][Role] Group Sustain

[X] Growth
[X] Renewal
[X] Hearth
 
[X][Role] Personal Resist
[X] Renewal
[X] Hearth
[X] Fire

I agree with Veekie about the specificity adding to the cool/flavor of the resulting art. I believe that Renewal is very much able to be in the realm of Fire (the flickering flame, the glowing embers roaring to life renewed) and I would enjoy the connections to Lanlan, Fenfen, Zhengui and funnily enough the Cloud Barbs. Just like with formations, it's easier to break them when you know them well (in reference to cloud barbs! Not our sweet precious friends!)

The cloud barbs had a group shout heat/sunrise/fire art that buffeted away our CtE somewhat, and I'd love to musically cancel or twist that outpouring of qi into emphasizing how Warm our Hearth is and how Really Freakin Cold CtE is haha <3 The Contrast is much more powerful in our domain than any Cycles meme imo. The Crushing Cold Lonely of being Outsider vs the Warm Embrace of Friendship Hugbox. The Contrast feeds the potency of both elements potentially, and any movement towards that theme will be very powerful I think.

I'm also unsure how Cyclical or Contrasting Zhengui actually is. I'm unsure if Fire and Wood are actually separate/infriction or if they're actually functioning as a cohesive Complimentary theming here. In some ways Contrasting is a way to compliment eachother but I feel like there's a layer of separation present in Contrast that isn't there in Zhengui.

Maybe it's Paradox? Or Solidarity? Holding two seemingly conflicting pieces together in the same space with collaboration despite differences for the achievement of common goals?

Edit: Also pursuing fire now with the intent of strengthening our connections is the HDW point of Connections right? I'm not looking for a balanced build or anything but I wouldn't mind cultivating a little something influenced by our closest friends even if odd every so often. It's part of Hidden Moon's curiosity and studying right? Except not a nerd study thing because like. This is about friendship and flexing! Clearly! lol
 
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[X][Role] Personal Resist
[X] Dream
[X] Reality
[X] Cycle

I like most of the ideas, just throwing out something that could make for an interesting scene. It goes with the dreaming moon phantasmagoria thing, like a dream amour or something, like Oh thought you hit me, that was just a dream.
 
Good, goooood... Grow my subjects yesss....
Imagine our ice fairy singing about friendship, and Nakama with our turtle/snek son
 
I am swayed.

Went for Hearth instead of particular elements because we seem to get neater arts when we focus on their themes more than trying to cram a specific element into the table.
Sleeping on it I think my first choice hearth was the best choice, it will be dealing with bonds instead and with growth and renewal be focused on rekindling old bonds and growing new/existing bonds to be stronger.

It would be Focusing more on our domain and what family would mean to us and use our bonds to protect us which our domain already does.

If he was a regular sea turtle Wuan Wu the moon would fit more thematically, but he ain't he's a fire turtle variant that fits more with sun/fire/warmth and we have to account for that, it'd be like saying to tack on sun for us because he wants to be closer to us.

Going back to my earlier comment he IS our hearth, he painfully wants to help us in any way he can feasibly so if we go hearth which fits in Domain wise it would also in a way use his bond for us to help protect against enemies more which we've had a heart demon to show for our efforts going alone.

[X] Renewal
[X] Growth
[X] Hearth
[X] [Role] Personal Resist
Guys, please. My point was the hearth art wasn't cultivated because it had nothing to do with Zhengui. Zhengui is not a hearth. That has nothing to do with his themes. It doesn't even make sense; at best it's elementally expedient, but that doesn't do anything for us of significance. If we just wanted elements that go fast, we'd dip into our darkness/etc stuff. Merely having elemental commonality with Zhengui isn't enough, we should be looking for something that actually engages with his unique themes, even if the elements are totally different. A hearth ain't that.

The idea is to find an art that fosters their partnership by being something he's actually well suited to providing insights on/for, but that also isn't totally foreign to Ling Qi. The floated Cold/Wood(Winter/Spring) ideas work here because it's engaging in elemental dichotomy, like he does, it draws from Ling Qi's own unique flavor with the Cold stuff, but it adds to that flavor by expanding it in a new Zhengui-friendly direction and in ways that perfectly fit with her existing insights- her insights relating to her Cold art, even!

A hearth art has superficial relation to Ling Qi's home themes but is a complete departure from her aesthetic, and it has superficial relation to Zhengui's elements but has nothing to do with his thematic nature. If you look at the previous special effects employed in the story, a fitting Ling Qi family-hug art should feature crisp but revitalizing spring winds, or something. Not a stove/fireplace. That's just not how the Home she offers has been contextualized. Nor does shifting in that direction mesh very well with the other arts we're currently planning to pick up. It's not cohesive or coherent.
 
Only in that TRF is a resist art, and our current archive dive is for a resist art.
SES is a resist art, and what we're currently directly replacing. TRF is going to be replaced by SNR over the next few turns.

You're right that we're (or many of us) looking for a replacement for the (unfortunately understated) Zhengui-TRF connection stuff atm as well. Things which never materialized with SES because it's a bad art. :V
 
Well, TBH.

The Dream would be creating a custom extension of TRF, but the "Two year timeframe to be a strong Green 5" doesn't allow for much experimentation.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Killer_Whale on Feb 22, 2020 at 6:50 PM, finished with 186 posts and 85 votes.
 
Guys, please. My point was the hearth art wasn't cultivated because it had nothing to do with Zhengui. Zhengui is not a hearth. That has nothing to do with his themes. It doesn't even make sense; at best it's elementally expedient, but that doesn't do anything for us of significance. If we just wanted elements that go fast, we'd dip into our darkness/etc stuff. Merely having elemental commonality with Zhengui isn't enough, we should be looking for something that actually engages with his unique themes, even if the elements are totally different. A hearth ain't that.

The idea is to find an art that fosters their partnership by being something he's actually well suited to providing insights on/for, but that also isn't totally foreign to Ling Qi. The floated Cold/Wood(Winter/Spring) ideas work here because it's engaging in elemental dichotomy, like he does, it draws from Ling Qi's own unique flavor with the Cold stuff, but it adds to that flavor by expanding it in a new Zhengui-friendly direction and in ways that perfectly fit with her existing insights- her insights relating to her Cold art, even!
Let the record show that I was at least trying to accomplish this with my Tides proposal, even if I have a slightly different sense of Zhengui's themes than you do.
 
Growth Renewal and Fire would make for a pretty wicked set...


A Fire burns and consumes, Growth ensures it continues to consume... while Renewal reinvigorates...


You could technically craft and everburning fire which 'Burns' injuries away and sets blaze to damaged places to restore them to pristine circumstances.
 
Ah well, guess were goin full ice/nature spirit
Would've been nice to capitalize on themes of home but we can work with this
 
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