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The sum total of all of these actions need about 23 successes. We are on track to get 13 AP/turn which at an average dc of 30 means ~9 successes a turn. All of this stuff is likely to finish inside of 3 turns, and 2 AP isn't likely to be able to shave a turn off of that unless we get really lucky with rolls. It's one thing to say that AP now will pay off by producing more AP later, but actions that explicitly produce AP are very rare - IIRC we've only seen one or two, and they came about specifically because of one of the national spirits we picked in chargen.

We also don't have access to any actions that fall into that category right now (even if we include actions that implicitly increase AP) for obvious reasons - stuff that seemed like it might relieve AP crunch got prioritized. Yes, doing more actions now will probably result in being able to do more actions later, but AP doesn't snowball nearly so fast as to (for example) let 2 AP now turn into 2 AP/turn for the forseeable future - for all that Legitimacy is something where the benefits are likely only to be seen several turns from now the snowball effect of an extra 2 AP this next turn isn't going to be happening all that much faster, if at all.
I think you're underestimating the value of getting actions completed earlier. If we'd had Audrey's spy network one turn later, we don't get intelligence from Buffalo about how badly Blackwell needs this peace, and things turn out rather differently. If we'd had it one turn earlier, we'd be free to take security actions using it, possibly tipping us off about how much Blackwell was bluffing. Every extra AP we can get our grubby little paws on is a chance to get that kind of advantage.
 
[X] Agreed. Sell the artifacts from the treaty directly to FCNY, along with the attendant Legitimacy boost. Gain +2 free AP for this upcoming turn.
 
FCNY imports 100% of its food as of the start of the quest, and probably hasn't managed to change that significantly in the year or so since most of Victoria's hard power was shattered. There's also mentions of part of Victoria's leverage over FCNY being due to controlling upstate power and potable water that form an appreciable part of FCNY's supply somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look for them.
Said nothing about water that I can find.
Or power, actually, besides noting that the Niagara power plants supplied the Canadian cities. Said nothing about New York City; if cutting the power grid in New York State would have endangered FCNY, the campaign that just ended would have gone very differently.

I know they import the bulk of their food from abroad, just not from Victoria, and New Jersey is pretty productive agriculturally IRL.
If they get even six months free hand there,with Philadelphia anchoring the other end....

The GM haven't finished worldbuilding there, so I'm hesitant to step on their toes.
Still, forty years since the fall of the US. That is a LOT of time to live with an existential threat on your border and make no provisions against the Vics going crazier than they already are.
 
Said nothing about water that I can find.
Or power, actually, besides noting that the Niagara power plants supplied the Canadian cities. Said nothing about New York City; if cutting the power grid in New York State would have endangered FCNY, the campaign that just ended would have gone very differently.

I know they import the bulk of their food from abroad, just not from Victoria, and New Jersey is pretty productive agriculturally IRL.
If they get even six months free hand there,with Philadelphia anchoring the other end....

The GM haven't finished worldbuilding there, so I'm hesitant to step on their toes.
Still, forty years since the fall of the US. That is a LOT of time to live with an existential threat on your border and make no provisions against the Vics going crazier than they already are.
The summary of the NYC option?

It's definitely been disarmed, their plan is to blow the bridges if need be.
 
[X] Agreed. Sell the artifacts from the treaty directly to FCNY, along with the attendant Legitimacy boost. Gain +2 free AP for this upcoming turn.

To be frank, I kind of think having a legitimacy stat at all was a mistake, since this discussion happens literally every time it's been brought up.
 
...Reminder that Johnson revealed the 4,000 murders thing offscreen to the international news outlets of the Free City of New York, per poptart post.

So Victoria has that to deal with on top of literally everything else.
To be fair, the international media may not take what is to you the obvious perspective of "the Victorians murdered all those poor people" and may instead go for something more like:

"Clashes between Commonwealth forces and Victorian militia, reported to have been made up almost entirely of aged veterans of Victoria's old Apostolic Army, shattered the city of Buffalo, claiming the lives of four thousand civilians and wounding thousands more."

Because all 'look what you made me do' reasoning aside, that's the neutral, just-the-facts way to report that story. The Victorians did not, so far as I know, round up four thousand civilians and shoot them personally, but their use of human shields ensured that said casualties would happen.

What would be good for refugees and the food crisis would be a New Deal policy.

Gets people employed and fed, and makes the case for citizenship harder to dismiss.

I am not a history buff, though.
I mean, we don't actually have an employment crisis. What we have is something much older and darker; we have famines to worry about.

See, in a developed or semi-developed industrial economy, when the economy sputters, it's usually a complicated issue of supply and demand and whatnot, and you get situations where the factories cannot profitably employ people and the economy contracts and so on. It's very abstract and complicated and the main reason people bother to pay economists in hopes that they can sort it all out.

We have a much simpler problem. Not enough food is being grown to feed everyone. This is almost unheard of in a modern developed nation, but was very common in pre-industrial societies. The agricultural sector, due to bad weather, poor farming techniques, or disruption of the economy that stopped the labor force from gathering the harvest, could simply fail to gather enough food to keep everyone alive for the next year or so until another harvest came in. This is disastrous, because it means someone, somewhere, is going to starve, and the only question is 'who.'

To make matters worse, anyone who produces food or controls the means by which food is distributed will start hoarding in this situation, if only to ensure that they have what it takes to feed their own families. Since food hoarding means storing more than you anticipate needing (the famine might last longer than you expect, or you might lose some to theft or disaster), this further exacerbates the food inequality.

...

With our population growing very rapidly due to refugee influx (two million or so in the first two years, and more since, on a base population of about fifteen million), this is a serious issue for us.

Fortunately, the reason we have this problem is simple and fixable. Our people have been forced to use much more primitive methods of agriculture than were normal in the early 21st century, with a lot of people reduced to outright subsistence farming to survive. This means that there is a huge amount of room for us to increase farm productivity with better machinery and techniques, which means that unlike most historical societies suffering from famines, we can realistically hope to increase output fast enough to keep ahead of the problem.

...

But for purposes of government policy, the thing to understand is that a famine is very different from a recession in which unemployed poor people starve. In a famine, the problem isn't some abstract economic thing, it's that even with everyone working hard, there just is not enough food to eat. This means that under famine conditions you will usually NOT see a major unemployment problem, except perhaps in urban areas if the entire economy collapses due to the famine.

People will all be working as hard as they can until they collapse from exhaustion- the problem isn't that people are out of work, it's that the work doesn't ensure that there will be enough food.

To be frank, I kind of think having a legitimacy stat at all was a mistake, since this discussion happens literally every time it's been brought up.
I dunno. I feel like it's kind of nice to have a mechanic that reflects "so, are you seen as being in any meaningful sense a successor state to the old US" and incentivizes us to care at least a little bit about old American cultural legacy rather than just shrugging and going "so what mechanical consequences are there for letting the Vicks melt the Liberty Bell down for scrap metal?"
 
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To be fair, the international media may not take what is to you the obvious perspective of "the Victorians murdered all those poor people" and may instead go for something more like:

"Clashes between Commonwealth forces and Victorian militia, reported to have been made up almost entirely of aged veterans of Victoria's old Apostolic Army, shattered the city of Buffalo, claiming the lives of four thousand civilians and wounding thousands more."

Because all 'look what you made me do' reasoning aside, that's the neutral, just-the-facts way to report that story. The Victorians did not, so far as I know, round up four thousand civilians and shoot them personally, but their use of human shields ensured that said casualties would happen.

I mean, we don't actually have an employment crisis. What we have is something much older and darker; we have famines to worry about.

See, in a developed or semi-developed industrial economy, when the economy sputters, it's usually a complicated issue of supply and demand and whatnot, and you get situations where the factories cannot profitably employ people and the economy contracts and so on. It's very abstract and complicated and the main reason people bother to pay economists in hopes that they can sort it all out.

We have a much simpler problem. Not enough food is being grown to feed everyone. This is almost unheard of in a modern developed nation, but was very common in pre-industrial societies. The agricultural sector, due to bad weather, poor farming techniques, or disruption of the economy that stopped the labor force from gathering the harvest, could simply fail to gather enough food to keep everyone alive for the next year or so until another harvest came in. This is disastrous, because it means someone, somewhere, is going to starve, and the only question is 'who.'

To make matters worse, anyone who produces food or controls the means by which food is distributed will start hoarding in this situation, if only to ensure that they have what it takes to feed their own families. Since food hoarding means storing more than you anticipate needing (the famine might last longer than you expect, or you might lose some to theft or disaster), this further exacerbates the food inequality.

...

With our population growing very rapidly due to refugee influx (two million or so in the first two years, and more since, on a base population of about fifteen million), this is a serious issue for us.

Fortunately, the reason we have this problem is simple and fixable. Our people have been forced to use much more primitive methods of agriculture than were normal in the early 21st century, with a lot of people reduced to outright subsistence farming to survive. This means that there is a huge amount of room for us to increase farm productivity with better machinery and techniques, which means that unlike most historical societies suffering from famines, we can realistically hope to increase output fast enough to keep ahead of the problem.

...

But for purposes of government policy, the thing to understand is that a famine is very different from a recession in which unemployed poor people starve. In a famine, the problem isn't some abstract economic thing, it's that even with everyone working hard, there just is not enough food to eat. This means that under famine conditions you will usually NOT see a major unemployment problem, except perhaps in urban areas if the entire economy collapses due to the famine.

People will all be working as hard as they can until they collapse from exhaustion- the problem isn't that people are out of work, it's that the work doesn't ensure that there will be enough food.

I dunno. I feel like it's kind of nice to have a mechanic that reflects "so, are you seen as being in any meaningful sense a successor state to the old US" and incentivizes us to care at least a little bit about old American cultural legacy rather than just shrugging and going "so what mechanical consequences are there for letting the Vicks melt the Liberty Bell down for scrap metal?"
The official angle may be neutral but I'd be shocked if there wasn't a Commonwealth statement with "the commonwealth made accusations of..." involved
 
The summary of the NYC option?
It's definitely been disarmed, their plan is to blow the bridges if need be.
Wouldn't help you if you rely on them for water and they can dump mutant cholera or shigella in your water supply.
Which is why resource independence from the Vics would be a national security issue for FCNY.
Especially in their first decade of independence, when Rumford was cheerfully running around blithely distributing WMDs.
 
Victoria vanishes under a white sheet as its militiamen are released in barely enough time to get home. Half of the harvest rotted in the fields. Hundreds of thousands of able-bodied young men have perished. There is severe rationing of what little is left. They are a nation so badly hurt it's staggering, and still they need to fight a civil war to its conclusion. At this point, they need peace. They need peace almost as badly as they need food...

...the factions demanding a counterattack outright threatened mutiny if something wasn't done. Blackwell knew how it was going to end at that point, but if he just called you up and accepted peace, he wouldn't have survived the month. So he launched an assault messy enough to make the impossibility of victory clear, and then called for peace.


[X] Politely decline. You'd rather hold onto the artifacts, either for the symbolic value or for later resale. Gain +5 Legitimacy.

We need the artifacts to claim that we're the official successor state. Selling it would be foolhardy. That said, less than the casualties as a direct result of the conflict, the indirect casualties are even better. Hundreds of thousands dead? Half the harvest gone? Rationing in the midst of a civil war?

This is a crushing blow to the Victorians. Let them fight out their civil war. When their civil war ends, we can start round 2.0. We'll march straight to New York City!

So i'm thinking Victoria might start hitting up their neighbours for food supplies...are we willing to do anything to disrupt that? We need food ourselves, so we should be able to offer higher prices no? Besides, Victoria has to be almost bankrupt so they can't really pay..
 
Boy, I love coming back after about six hours to find that the thread has exploded three or four times.

How many times do I have to tell you people to quit relitigating Legitimacy?
Huh. Well, I can't say I'm surprised that Blackwell went all-in on a futile attack...

@PoptartProdigy , about how many militia do we think the Victorians just lost in those attacks?
Hard to say, you couldn't really count bodies and Victoria isn't disclosing. Extremely rough estimates put it at 20,000-40,000. The Vicks brought over 100,000, and it just...wasn't enough. The Inquisitors kept rounding them up whenever they broke and sending them back in.
I think that @PoptartProdigy said we got a Legitimacy boost from beating the Victorians, too (it would make sense, since it makes us more credible and powerful). But dunno.
Hasn't been added yet, but yes, you will.
-We miiiight be able to gain advantage by essentially blackmailing the Russian Heir Catherine / the Global Environmental movement by saying that right now we're going to have to industrial dirtily and with a lot of polluttion and it's a shame whats going to happen to the North American watersheds and the Great lakes because of that. But maaaybe if they helped us build things like CANDU reactors and have help buidling other advanced Green technologies, why that would be just swell.

We can turn our relative primativeness into an advantage by just being willing to do some ugly Soviet style industrialization if no one helps us avoid it. (Sorry Commonwealth Green Party)
...uh, bold.
They. (Points to custom title.)
( @PoptartProdigy , based on current projections, factoring in a probable refugee wave yet again, if we fail/ignore the farming equipment action on Turn 5 but complete it on Turn 6, will there be a famine? This determines the urgency with which we need to act, obviously).
Hm, I should have phrased that better.

Based on my current thinking, I believe it will need to complete Turn 5 and be complete as Turn 6 begins. If I have said otherwise before, somebody please feel free to point it out and I will abide by that.
why have the Victorians never destroyed the USS Constitution?
Victoria has a complicated relationship to the Old Country, in that they disdain its final incarnation while saying they are the most legitimate and proper successor for which it could hope.

AKuz is not wrong in saying that Victoria is a dark mirror to Commonwealth ideals. While Lind saw it as a triumph of will and strength, he very much created the ultimate incarnation of all of America's sins and wrongdoings. And the thing about a dark mirror is that it still reflects.
Random, completely not-related, but very sad thought...James Mattis might have lived long enough to see his precious USMC mutate into the early stages of the CMC.

I can't begin to fathom the heartbreak he might have felt. One can only hope he died before watching such an event unfold.
The USMC had virtually nothing to do with the CMC. Rumford was a man who failed officer school for disrespecting a fellow candidate (a woman; he very vocally contested her right to participate in a memorial ceremony on the grounds that no women were present in the battle she was commemorating) and refusing a direct order from a superior officer (to tender an immediate apology and clean up his fucking act). Gunny Matthews was a former Marine. The others, I believe, were police at most.
Apologies...I did not know..Thank you @AKuz for your time. And Thank you Ma'm for a polite conversation.

Wow...my first gilded comment...

What does the Gold outline mean Its my first one.
Somebody liked your post enough to pay the site to give it a fancy outline to attract attention.
Saw a suggestion on the Discord to sell some of the artifacts that we might have trouble maintaining on our own, but keep the rest. @PoptartProdigy, is that an option?

More specifically...

[ ] Split the difference. New York has the means to better care for some of the more fragile / maintenance-intensive items, but you'd like to hang onto the rest (Gain 1 AP, 2 Legitimacy)
Write-ins, unless specified otherwise, are neither moderated nor closed. Vote it if you want it.
-The Annulment Clause dumps every national security treaty Victoria has.
That includes any remaining provisions of the treaty California signed to end the Pacific War. And the ones restraining New York from rearming.
Both of them were going to do so anyway, but here they don't have to be covert about it.
The NCR's treaty ending the Pacific War was with Russia, not Victoria. Yet another reason the NC decided that war would be better off completely fictionalized.
I mean it goes both ways. I have noticed many low-legitimacy playthrough advocates who seem to just be ultraleftists who hate America and basically just want to destroy anything that remains of the old America without acknowledging either the good that America did or the evil that their ideology has committed consistently every single time someone implemented it. People who are basically sabotaging a quest where we chose to play as a Revivalist state from the beginning.

Honestly I am annoyed as a SocDem voter during the political vote early on that we still ended up forming a government with the socialists despite winning the vote. We could have allied with only the PCPP and still had a coalition with a strong majority, the Christian Socialists weren't needed. And since everyone was allowed to vote on concessions for the coalition, not just the SocDem voters, the SocDem position was sabotaged by socialist voters voting for the SocDems to compromise on everything, even the co-ops, rather than just the important things like housing and healthcare that of course SocDems would be willing to compromise on.
You only voted to compromise on healthcare, calm down.
@PoptartProdigy can we make an agreement with FCNY to temporarily have FCNY hold and take care of the artifacts until the Commonwealth has built up the capacity to maintain them ourselves?
Not moderating write-ins. It would cost you, but below the level of abstraction.
 
This is a crushing blow to the Victorians. Let them fight out their civil war. When their civil war ends, we can start round 2.0. We'll march straight to New York City!
I think we may need longer than that. Just rebuilding our infrastructure and military to the standards of a middling Third World country could take years, and the sheer physical size of Victoria is enough that we'll need an army several times larger, equipped with better weapons and copious supplies, to have a hope of invading and occupying the place.

Occupying armies typically need something like one person per 40 people in the occupied territory; Victoria may be harder than that because of the number of fanatics and the skill they've already cultivated at intimidating and infiltrating the civilian population. Which in turn means our army of occupation would, even assuming major Victorian population losses due to emigration and warfare, need to be something like 300,000 soldiers.

Which is several times more warm bodies than we've ever been able to field, even now in the (First) Niagara Campaign where we deployed a six-division army instead of three like during the Detroit Campaign.

So i'm thinking Victoria might start hitting up their neighbours for food supplies...are we willing to do anything to disrupt that? We need food ourselves, so we should be able to offer higher prices no? Besides, Victoria has to be almost bankrupt so they can't really pay..
Note that if true, this will also impact their ability to pay war reparations, and they may well appeal to the international community arguing (not without reason) that the war reparations we saddled them with are stopping them from buying food to feed their people.

Of course, the flip side of that is that Blackwell may have come to view the reparations as, essentially, tribute he pays to stop us from hitting him again until he's ready, in which case he'll be more likely to keep paying it- though he'll still try to get propaganda mileage out of the fact that his people are starving while he pays it.

Hard to say, you couldn't really count bodies and Victoria isn't disclosing. Extremely rough estimates put it at 20,000-40,000. The Vicks brought over 100,000, and it just...wasn't enough. The Inquisitors kept rounding them up whenever they broke and sending them back in.
Wow.

Those poor bastards. I can't imagine they inflicted more than a tenth that many losses on our own troops under the circumstances. Maybe less.

I would have figured on less, but then I underestimated the stupidity of Blackwell's subordinates and rivals for power within the Loyalist regime.

Hasn't been added yet, but yes, you will.
I seemed to remember you mentioning in passing that just the Detroit Campaign had earned us a Legitimacy boost, but I'll await the numerical breakdown of how much pointage is coming from where.

Hm, I should have phrased that better.

Based on my current thinking, I believe it will need to complete Turn 5 and be complete as Turn 6 begins. If I have said otherwise before, somebody please feel free to point it out and I will abide by that.
OK, well, I believe it- on the other hand that means we have a very strong need to take multiple AP on Farming Equipment, Part 2. Unless actions we take at the upcoming regional conferences can somehow make sure we have a backup ability to import the food we'd need, or lower the DC all the way to 0, we'll need to spend at least two AP, maybe more (two AP on an action with a 30% chance of failure is still a 9% chance of double failure)

And with the public welfare guarantees we've put into place, it is really bad if we allow a famine to hit. Arguably worse than it would have been under Burns' provisional government, because Burns never promised to feed all those refugees. We did.

Hopefully overinvesting and going over on extra successes means we stave off even further food shortages and kick that can a year or two farther down the road, effectively saving us AP in the future. Or something.

You only voted to compromise on healthcare, calm down.
Well... I think we did at least agree to be tacitly co-op friendly, with co-op workplaces as opposed to privately owned companies being a Big Thing promoted by the socialist parties that splits them from the Social Democrats.

But 'be kind to co-ops' is below the level of resolution of the game's simulation.
 
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And with the public welfare guarantees we've put into place, it is really bad if we allow a famine to hit. Arguably worse than it would have been under Burns' provisional government, because Burns never promised to feed all those refugees. We did.
Technically, the guarantees only cover citizens.

The non-citizens were incidentally covered at the time, but in strictly legal terms, you can let the refugees starve. I wouldn't recommend that, but you can.
Well... I think we did at least agree to be tacitly co-op friendly, with co-op workplaces as opposed to privately owned companies being a Big Thing promoted by the socialist parties that splits them from the Social Democrats.

But 'be kind to co-ops' is below the level of resolution of the game's simulation.
Socialists go for coops at the explicit expense of private companies, Communists go straight for private companies' throats. Social Democrats are interested in the idea of coops and offer a selection thereof some incentives to keep going so that the experiment has a decent chance. New Capitalists frankly don't give a damn as long as everybody pays their taxes. But you did specifically compromise on healthcare as opposed to any other provision.
 
@PoptartProdigy

One other thing.

Given that we need the "supply everyone with food" action to complete and be successful during Turn 5, the upcoming turn... we are now in a position roughly as urgent as we were at game start.

Will we get access to a Scale Up Food Purchases option like we did then?

How about a diplomacy option like Beg For International Relief Aid, which should be at least theoretically possible from a logistics standpoint with Outreach partially completed and us having just pried open the St. Lawrence Seaway to foreign shipping by force of arms?
 
Hard to say, you couldn't really count bodies and Victoria isn't disclosing. Extremely rough estimates put it at 20,000-40,000. The Vicks brought over 100,000, and it just...wasn't enough. The Inquisitors kept rounding them up whenever they broke and sending them back in.

Jesus and this is a sideshow for the civil war. Victoria going to end up with a dented demographic before this done isn't it?
 
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Honestly my kneejerk response is that if it's as bad as that makes it sound, we may need to rush the war planning- on purely humanitarian grounds.

At the very least get the war brides out of that fiasco ASAP?
 
The Victorians may recover surprisingly far from this disastrous situation if Blackwell can beat the Crusaders in a timely manner and regain Russian support.

Jesus and this is a sideshow for the real civil war. Victoria going to end up with a dented demographic before this done isn't it?
Yeah. It's especially bad because the men being called up for militia service preferentially are almost certainly being called up because they're available- that is, the ones who aren't doing something absolutely indispensable, and who are relatively the most fit and in the main target demographic for military service (18-26 or so). Victoria is losing huge amounts of military manpower because of just how inefficient these militia are at actually fighting battles against a real opponent, even one that's only three quarters trained themselves.

And every man they lose today will make it harder to raise the New Model Army in a few year's time.

On the other hand, this may not have been 'just a sideshow' compared to the scale of the battles against the Crusaders. We fielded six divisions that, by Victorian standards, are well equipped. The Crusaders have two divisions that are better equipped than ours... but the rest of their units are just militia, no different from the Loyalist militia.

Militia-on-militia battles almost certainly degenerate into darkly comedic slapfights simply because neither side really knows how to defend or attack a position. Each side's respective commissars can keep the other side moving, but most of the "militiamen" are probably just firing their guns into the air and yelling at each other in hopes of looking like the Manly Victorian Heroes they've seen in propaganda films or whatever. Then either the attacker's nerve fails and they run back to their own position, or the defender's nerve fails and likewise.

This is sort of how traditional warfare tended to work out in real life when it was "all the men of your village against all the men of mine." Both sides would posture and flail and throw weapons at each other from a reasonably safe distance, and a few guys would get killed, and then they'd break off the combat. Unless of course one side panicked and ran, in which case a massacre was likely to ensue.

And one side effect of this kind of combat is low overall casualties. I don't think that militia/militia clashes in the Victorian Civil War result in nearly the scale of 'per capita' bloodshed we've been seeing, because they don't involve dense infantry assaults slamming into machine gun fire and artillery barrages. The opposing militia simply doesn't have the firepower to be very deadly, and one side or the other is likely to break or get bogged down before the other can bring deadliness to bear.

...

Meanwhile, the two CMC mechanized divisions can slaughter any militia unit that gets in their way, just as easily as we did to the Loyalist militia at Buffalo or maybe even easier... but they are still only two divisions, and their vehicles and heavy weapons use supplies that aren't identical to what everyone else fights with. With no hope of Russian resupply, the Crusaders have to think about whether unlimbering their tanks and APCs to slaughter any given unit of militia is worth the expenditure of autocannon rounds and whatnot.

Plus, neither side really has much better ability to amass supplies and feed armies than, say, the American Civil War's armies had, so the maximum feasible size of the armies is on that same general scale- massing more than about a hundred thousand soldiers in one place is very hard and even that is a big stretch.

So the worst individual battles of the Victorian Civil War may actually be no worse than what just happened during the Victorian assault on Buffalo. It's just that they keep coming and coming and coming.
 
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I think we may need longer than that. Just rebuilding our infrastructure and military to the standards of a middling Third World country could take years, and the sheer physical size of Victoria is enough that we'll need an army several times larger, equipped with better weapons and copious supplies, to have a hope of invading and occupying the place.
Wait, why is this quoting me? I never said that!
 
[X] Split the difference. New York has the means to better care for some of the more fragile / maintenance-intensive items, but you'd like to hang onto the rest (Gain 1 AP, 2 Legitimacy)
 
[X] Split the difference. New York has the means to better care for some of the more fragile / maintenance-intensive items, but you'd like to hang onto the rest (Gain 1 AP, 2 Legitimacy)
 
Canon Omake: Old Town Roads
Old Town Roads
It is of little surprise to the aspiring anthropologist studying the post-fall culture of the North Americas that many of the isolated communities that sprung up in the wake of that terrible event would co-op much of the traditional lyrical themes and musical styling of the defunct United States. While there remains numerous peculiar pockets of neo-revivalist 'retro-pop' styled works that are popular among the refugee communities around the world, alongside it's more somber yet variably urban-based 'rap' approaches, the ubiquitous nature of the common guitar combined with the widespread knowledge of how to both play relatively competently and pass down those teachings through either written or oral means meant that many of the more isolated, rural communities returned to the usage of the acoustic guitar as their primary musical instrument. It is also undeniable that the antagonistic actions of state-sponsored terrorism perpetuated by Victoria tended to overlook the guitar in favour of targeting more noticeably different styles that did not fit within their proscribed list of 'acceptable' musics.

It is ironic then, that the guitar was one of the most ubiquitous tools by which many an isolated community used to vent their frustrations and anger at the state of the collapsed nation around them, especially when pouring their own frustrations into a form that many could empathize with. Certainly, the Free City of New York has produced more than a dozen artists who have gone onto famous careers overseas, heralded by a particular skill in music, although the rural interior of North America rarely had any connection to said artists. Instead, many casual artists instead turned to reworking traditional songs to make them more in keeping with the general feelings of the local populace, and it is not uncommon to hear a similar song played across the breath of the Americas despite minor variations in lyrics.

One of the most notable twists on a traditional song was the changes made to the song 'Country Roads', written just over a century ago by the artist John Denver. Originally a nostalgic recollection of his own time spent on the road heading back and forth to work, alongside a desire to follow the roads back home to West Virginia, this song has been through numerous highs and disappointing lows through it's usage over time, most notably in the late 2010s, but its most surprising change has been its slow but steady shift towards being both a nostalgic recollection of the old United States alongside somewhat of a rallying call to reunification, or at least the desire to rebuild the scattered rural populations into something better.

Today, its most prevalent version is known as 'Old Town Roads', and has numerous connections to the Free City of New York, the New California Republic, and most notably, the Commonwealth of Free Cities. Following the recent short but brutal war between the Commonwealth and Victoria, the song has become prevalent along the Mississippi river, a byproduct of the ease of trade along the river, spreading from the northern Great Lakes regions via word of mouth, catchy tune and undeniably popular theme of 'a better life' for all.

Lyrics below:
Almost heaven, Illinois
God's green gardens, Mississippi River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, growing like a breeze
Old town roads, take us home
To the place we belong
Illinois, mountain mama
Take us home, old town roads

All my memories gather 'round her
Miner's lady, stranger to blue water
Dark and dusty, painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine, tears fall from my eyes
Old town roads, take us home
To the place we belong
Illinois, mountain mama
Take us home, old town roads

I hear her voice, in the morning hour she calls me
The radio reminds me of our home gone away
Walking down the road, I get a feeling
That we should have been home yesterday, yesterday
Old town roads, take us home
To the place we belong
Illinois, mountain mama
Take us home, old town roads

Old town roads, take us home
To the place we belong
Illinois, mountain mama
Take us home,old town roads
Take us home, down old town roads
Take us home, down old town roads

Although not officially recognized by any major organization as an appropriated song, the growing popularity of the tune across both the Mississippi and Great Lakes watersheds demonstrates an interesting recollection of past connections to the old United States of America, and the fascinating fusions of lingering elements of that previous cultural juggernaut scattered across North America and beyond.
 
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