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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Crake

Whoops, but yeah that looks like a good way of assuring the dude that we aren't a completely aloof Dragon King who'll barely look St Westeros while partying it up in SD.
 
DragonParadox said:
OOC: This guy us actually pretty favorable to you thanks to high background rolls and Bonifer's intervention, but he rolled up the diplomatic skills of a baked potato on character generation so his questions come off as rather more hostile than they really are.
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Haha, now I'm imagining this dude as Mr. Potato Head.

Thanks for the assist, Bonifer.
 
[X] Crake

The New Men are mages, clerks and legionaries right? Can see why Lords would be a little worried about them. Same goes to the New Men as well to the Lords.
 
mrsean22 said:
[X] Crake

The New Men are mages, clerks and legionaries right? Can see why Lords would be a little worried about them. Same goes to the New Men as well to the Lords.
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Officials, basically, yes. Mages kind of slide into this category to a degree, but only the "typical" graduate, the ones mostly engaged in the economy, or who haven't seen enough and survived enough combat to become powerful battle mages. Those guys are political forces of their own, capable of outsized influence greater than most people.

Technically, a mage capable of casting fireball has the mojo to burn down a building, but only "easier than a guy with a torch and oil could". I think someone, Talon? Compared them to "battle tanks" or "jet fighters" but we have an example of both those things basically, and they are way deadlier than that.

I would liken them to a high level black belt or a specialist with a Master's Degree in their respective field. They could totally kill a guy, probably with incredible ease, but a squad of Inquisitorial Soldiers with gear could put them down with brutal efficiency provided they had good intelligence.
 
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Officials, basically, yes. Mages kind of slide into this category to a degree, but only the "typical" graduate, the ones mostly engaged in the economy, or who haven't seen enough and survived enough combat to become powerful battle mages. Those guys are political forces of their own, capable of outsized influence greater than most people.
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From the perspective of a Westerosi noble, I imagine "New Men" are probably the worst kind of jumped up commoner, those who aren't only earning wealth far beyond their appropriate "station in life", but who are also gaining influence and authority which might actually exceed that of the nobility itself.

There is probably more than a bit of existential horror there.
 
Goldfish said:
From the perspective of a Westerosi noble, I imagine "New Men" are probably the worst kind of jumped up commoner, those who aren't only earning wealth far beyond their appropriate "station in life", but who are also gaining influence and authority which might actually exceed that of the nobility itself.

There is probably more than a bit of existential horror there.
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It's basically Viserys counterbalancing their influence. He uses the nobles and their traditional authority married with his own State apparatus's efficiency. If the Officials start abusing their influence and authority, Viserys leans on the nobility. If the nobility gets uppity, nothing changes. He can run the state and mint new nobles all while putting down a rebellion.
 
Can totally see the Nobles being afraid of that our Officials gaining influence and power. Can also see the Officials being afraid of the Nobles with their lands and gaining influence.
 
Regarding Tywin, anyone want to bet that he's gotten into bed with some awful gribbly? At some point, he has to count numbers and realize that we've got more magical and draconic firepower than he does. He's going to be looking for an equalizer, and he's got absolutely no compunctions on paying off more magic-rich factions with gold or blood. Perhaps he has enough self-awareness to not team up with outright fiends, but there's subtler monsters out there.
 
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*sigh*
Well, I handed in the fucktarded lexicology test I've been struggling with material for over 2 weeks, and now, my semester is officially over.
Yay me.

I can do stuff without my conscience eating away at me, now.

@Crake, mind writing up whom you'd like to visit in Westeros next month, as an MA?
Mind, we will also have dealing with Tiamat/golden Company and visiting Plane of Water for some major negotiations (and possibly intrigue, see the Dragon/Forge-Emirate stuff) so we won't be be to get as many houses as usual, most likely.

@DragonParadox, have we established Scholarum facilities in Braavos yet? I tried searching for any mentions, but failed so far.
Can we start teaching there the next month, considering some tradition already set by the Silver Eye?

@Goldfish, @Deliste, ya two already have some semblance of order-plan for next month's fleshforging?
I'd like to include it in the monthly MA-plan as well, to cut down on voting a bit.
 
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Would've already guessed such.

Best guess is Hell. But the thing is, all the deals Hell would offer would basically make puppets of the Lannisters. Their utility to actually getting rid of Viserys, the true threat, is minimal, and their ability to actually leverage control over the nobility, much less the small folk, isn't much greater than Legions of devils force marching everyone to death while whipping them every step. It'd be simpler to focus on killing Viserys and then ruling through a less irritating proxy for some of that systematic soul-harvesting goodness they did with Valyria.

So who would give Tywin a deal for firepower he'd actually swallow?

Then it hit upon me. The Brass Bastard. He's got enough on his plate that legitimately conquering the Prime Material long term is a distant concern right now. But positive relations with Tywin like we've got with the Shaitan and Djinn? Only obstacle there is Lanna and Gerion would so not be on it, seeing as it would likely involve quite a bit of "selling small folk into slavery" and other clownishly evil nonsense, since Efreeti can't avoid maximum mustache twirling in all their dealings right now. One whiff of that getting out and it's all downhill. Another mark against a possible alliance--we've uncapped the genie so to speak on just what the fire spirits are all about. One hint of that, and Tywin's PR goes from "not specifically picking a fight with him" to "he's working with slavers who make Essosi magisters look like puppies, he's gotta go now".

And Efreeti don't seem big on subtlety from what I can tell. Unless you spell 'subtlety' like this.
 
egoo said:
@Goldfish, @Deliste, ya two already have some semblance of order-plan for next month's fleshforging?
I'd like to include it in the monthly MA-plan as well, to cut down on voting a bit.
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@Goldfish, friendly reminder to please remember the Guardian Nagas. Without the infertility, please. We don't have to make a fuck ton, but given that they're active citizens with normal desires no need to nerf these ones. In the scope of the quest their breeding is functionally non-existent anyway.
 
egoo said:
@DragonParadox, have we established Scholarum facilities in Braavos yet? I tried searching for any mentions, but failed so far.
Can we start teaching there the next month, considering some tradition already set by the Silver Eye?
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No, we haven't established a Scholarum there yet. It takes resources distinctly different than what was basically the resources necessary to establish the Inquisition there immediately. So the institutional build-up wasn't equivalent, thus we'd have to actually use an action to extend it to there. It didn't seem to hold priority, considering most Braavosi who'd be interested are likely to be among the many immigration waves.
 
egoo said:
Alright, here's the final throw-together from me:
General Proposal for Adventure/Delve-Actions in the 12th Month.
ESSOS:
[] Chains and Collars, of Hells and Mortals: Contain the further spread of Asmodeus pawns through the actions of High-ranking Devils that haven't been dealt with the last month. Gain insight into the best approach to take over the Slavers' Bay afterward. -- A month-long action.
---- Malarys, Garin, 1 Mind Dragon, 2 Drow!Assasins, Orphne Feylord, 1 Umbral Stalker, 3 Umbral Spies, the Asura, The Misfits (3 of them - without their alchemist).

[] Gold, Broken - Final Preparations: WIth general knowledge on Golden Company, their Shadow Fortress and the spy-ring in Yi-Ti acquired, it is time to do the final preparations before the amassed attack - scouting out the locations of commanders, and such matters - things that Mindblanked companions would be needed for because of Tiamat's clerics constant Divination.
--(The attack itself is a "free" action, but dealing with preparations, and mopping up the remains would take a week+ of time from the group assigned)
---- Waymar, Tyene, Teana, Rina, Dany, Richard, 1 Mind Dragon

BEYOND THE WALL:
[] The Barrows of the Lost Clans: Finish cleaning up the halls of Lost Clans of Freefolk, filled with risen dead – the bodies unburned by foolish people of now nameless clans. (Opposition: ??; Rewards: ??)
---- 1 Yssian Guardian Naga, Velen the Phoenix birb, Oberyn, Thoros of Myr, Wyla, Sandor, 1 Herald

[] Saltwives' Lament: Standing on the shore of the Sunset Sea upon Sea-Dragon point is a tower of white stone, that seems to have been dipped in salt, local legend claiming from the tears of the kidnapped maidens locked within by cruel ironborn lords. Supposedly such was their sorrow that the sky itself took pity upon them and spat forth a mighty storm to sunder the longships that would take them on to the Iron Isles. Whether they were then slain as witches, or if the deed itself required spilling their heart's blood none can say for certain but all tales agree that one can still hear their sobs and cries whenever a storm strikes those shores. What is clear is that no bird or beast will approach the tower willingly and when Boloodraven drove a raven to do so despite its instincts he briefly spotted pale figure upon the tower's crumbling battlements
Likely Foes: Ghosts and Wraiths
CR: 5-7
---- Mia the Inquisitor, Anya the Inquisitor, Kira Windgraced, Mors 'Crowfood' Umber, Leila Goldhammer, 2 Erynies,

WESTEROS:

[] Capping off a Danger: Cleaned out as most of darker WylkFae have been by Faith and the clansmen, some still escaped. Hunt down the dangerous Redcap murdering travelers, now moved to Kingswood in search of more prey. (Opposition: ??, Redcaps; Rewards: ??)
---- Glyra, Ser Bonifer Hasty, Ser Gerold 'Darkstar' Dayne, Jeyne Weaver (after visiting Gith), Roger Reyne, Aradia the Huntress, 2 Erynies.

[] A Darker Kind of Fey: Deal with various Fey of Court of Stars proving a danger to people of Westeros:
-[] Swift Eye, a Quickling who haunts the outskirts of Oldtown alongside his troupe has been known to deal with Deep Ones. On the other hand, he has helped the Lantern Bearers as much if not more. His greed seems to be the great constant of his being. Due to his loyalty to the court, he has been left in peace, though it has been foretold that he will meet an unfortunate end soon at the hands of Deep One agents. He is counted among the Gold faction.
-[] Jagged Knife, a Redcap whose court has set up on the edge of the Rainwood ambushing travelers, particularly families with young children whom he torments with dreadful choices trading lives until they go mad. He is only nominally part of the Court of Stars. Crimson Lotus suspects he gained that position by some manner of blackmail. Killing him might gain favor with his supposed patron of the Indigo if one can stomach working with a being who tacitly allowed such monstrous deeds.
----- Shara the Inquisitor, Azema, Danar & Alyssa Crowl, 3 Erynies, Mereth,

OTHER PLANES:
[] The Rot of Stone, on paths of Trade: Clear out the infestation of Rotstone near the Xorn trade route.
(Opposition: ??, Aberrations; Rewards: ??). -- Guaranteed Aberrations, possibly Beholders.
---- Xor, Lady Saenena, Zherys, 1 Yssian Guardian Naga, 4 Erynies

[] A Fire, on Fire Turned: Aid the rebel Salamander Kingdoms by striking at their rivals.
(Opposition: ??; Rewards: ??)
---- Amrelath, Melisande, Siduri & Yrten + crew, 5 Erynies, 1 Mind Dragon, 1 Herald

Unused Companions, Minions:
Yrael, Rhango (+ his riders + Devils we supplied him with), Blight's Bane, Moonsong (+ Moonchaser), 9 Erynies
General Proposal for Research Actions in the 12th Month.
[] The Final Contravention: With how far you have come, and how many you broke off from Hells' leash, perhaps you can go around the Pact Primeval in a way none before you had - and utilise the Lawful nature of all Devils to create a Ritual that would be capable of severing their connection to Hells regardless of their exact kind, or strength. (Progress: 23/30, Cost: 20.000 IM)
----Lya [Second body] (4d6 Progress)

[] Elder Arts: An in-depth study of Runelore.
-[] Research the Landwards in Thenn's holdings (Progress: 15 Cost: 6000 IM)
----Velen (4d6 Progress), Bloom the Bridjidine (4d6 Progress) --8d6 Progress total.

[] Project Praetorian: WIth use of Fleshforges, create the sort of soldiers that could reasonably fight even Outsiders - elites and Champions the Empire will need in the coming years. (Progress 40, Cost 35,000 IM)
----Qyburn (4d6 Progress); Elaheh Marita (4d6 Progress + 1d6 for specialization) -- 9d6 Progress total

[] Dreamscaping: The realm of dreams is an odd thing, shaped by the minds of mortals and shaping them in return, though some beings such as Yss have shown you that it can be altered in more direct ways. You will need to learn about such shaping before you can hope to leverage the dreamscape for your grand work. (Progress: 20, requires Dany, progress added by other characters is halved) -- We haven't had the report here either, but with halving it is impossible to be done with it mathematically anyway.
-----Aenie Caleris (4d6 Progress + 1d6 for specialization)

[] The Forge Restored: Centuries of disuse and the waning of magic it survived done little good to one of the most potent weapons of Valyria... Something you had yet to fix.
-[] Increase in CR of creatures available to create in Fleshforge of Lys to 15 (Progress: 10, Cost: )
----Urak the Forgemaster (4d6 Progress + 1d6 for specialization)

[] To Curb a Dreadful Hunger: The Far-Spawn being that had once been disguised as the chest hungers for the flesh of thinking beings, but it is more than its instincts are, however strange. Perhaps the forge could help it live on the healthier fare (Progress: 5, Cost: 4000 IM) -- Would also allow us to safely feed "The Many" - the illithid-like worms looted on PoW.
----Vee (4d6 Progress)

[] Works of Flesh: With the aid of the Flesh-Forge beneath Lys you can craft or improve all manner of beings to better serve your needs and those of your realm:
-[] Create cosmetic variations of Leshys (Progress: 2, Cost: None)
-[] Create the adamantine-like bone, using the samples from Rhango's knife (Progress: 4, Cost: 5000 IM)
----Aemon Naremos (4d6 Progress)

[] The Bloodchain: The weapon Valaena wields is a powerful one indeed... Yet, with recent breakthroughs of yours, it clearly can be made better. Upgrade Valaena's Chain to Valyrian Steel (Progress: 6, Cost: )
----Valeria Wondersmith (4d6 Progress)

[] Reforging Anew the Secrets Lost: The technique of making Seeker-constructs was lost alongside Valyria itself... Until you took the forge of Gogoss and it's secrets. However, for all their utility, the method of their creation... is severely lacking.
-[] Re-create the ritual technique necessary to create Seekers, without a need for unborn children, or otherwise equally unethical resources, to be used.
(Progress: 25, Cost: )
----Vee (4d6 Progress), Mantarys Scholarum Branch (+2d6 Progress), Tolos Scholarum Branch (+2d6 Progress) -- 8d6 Progress Total

[] Waves of the Sea, on Depths and Fire Turned: research the wardings if the Marid house of Mardja.
-[] Wards that would be able to protect the coastal regions and cities of Plane of Balance (Progress: 30, Cost: 80.000 IM)
----Breath Taker (4d6 Progress), Stepstones Scholarum Branch (2d6 Progress), Naria Loreseeker (4d6 progress) - 10d6 Progress Total

[] Forge of Creation: With Anu having finally restored the ritual necessary for the creation of his kin, much may change... But for now, that is but a single ritual. To truly bring his people to life, something yet grander Is needed.
-[] Organise a magi-industrial complex capable of producing Warforged en-mass. (Progress: 18/30, Cost: )
----Anu (4d6 Progress)

[] The Heavy Thoughts: The Mindspeak that some creatures wield in this day and age has proven it's utility time and time again - and finding a way to grant the ability to use it holds great promise in most various fields.
-[] Find a way to evoke the ability for Telepathy in those without innate talent for it.
(Progress: 8, Cost: 7500 IM)
----Svitran (4d6 Progress)

[] Watchful Eyes, by Aeons Untouched: Attempt to create the Watchman-Creature template (Progress: 25, Cost: ??)
----Volantis Scholarum branch (2d6 Progress), Naath Scholarum branch (2d6 Progress) -- 4d6 Progress total.

[] The Stone of Memories, The Stone of Visions: The mysterious Serpentstone Projector you recovered from the deeper parts of Riz'Neth's city may not look like much... But you have learned quite well how much but a little show before the audience as large as cities could mean for a ruler.
-[] Research the Serpentstone Projectors, emphasizing the function of recording visual and auditory signals - something that may well be priceless if a way is found to make more of such "recorders" cheaply, and also searching for a way to integrate them with the MirrorVision network - allowing to both (hopefully) make MirrorVision sets cheaper and easier to make, and to store transmissions shown - perhaps allowing for plays and speeches to be replayed in the future? (Progress: 45, Cost: 50.000 IM)
----Riz'Neth (4d6 Progress), Tyrosh Scholarum branch (2d6 Progress) -- 6d6 Progress total.

Full roster:
Minions, Companions:
-Lya (body #2)
-Aemon Naremos
-Bloom the Brijidine
-Valeria Wondersmith
-Naria Loreseeker
-Velen
-Anu
-Svitran
-Vee
-Elaheh Marita (+1d6 to Fleshcrafting-related)
-Qyburn
-Riz'Neth
-Breath Taker
-Aenie Caleris (+1d6 to Dreamlands-related)
-Urak the Forgemaster (+1d6 to Fleshcrafting-related)
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Scholarum Branches:
-Stepstones
-Tyrosh
-Volantis
-Mantarys
-Tolos
-Naath
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@Goldfish, @Crake, take note.
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[] Reaching for the Reach: Rhaella ventures forth into the Reach independently of your own course, heading the charge on some of the Houses who might find the prospect of your rule more palatable. Once she has picked all of the low-hanging fruit, as it were, you will reconvene with her and decide how to split the rest of the work, where it will require your own personal touch and whereby you might delegate further.
---- Rhaella, The Seeker (CR 15), 1x Mind Dragon, Umbral Stalker

@Goldfish Not sure who else you wanted to send with Rhaella but those were the "for sure" column.

[] Overreaching Wrought Ruin: There are a number of Reacher Lords who either require dismissing from consideration for the virtue of arranging stronger political alliances, or who's situation will involve some degree of finesse or intrigue to acquire their surety of loyalty. Besides that of which, a number have presented you with the conundrum of ostensible neutrality in all matters but their loyalty to Highgarden, who at any moment you could do more than embarrass with but a word, you could ruin their very standing among all who hold fealty toward them with the starkest truth of their actions and inaction. Bending their neck came first, having them bend their closer vassals ears to your will would be next.
-[ ] Viserys, ???

@egoo Keep the change, ya filthy animal.
 
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