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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
Well you do have access to one of his mages. maybe 'the kami' could reveal more stuff to her or she 'finds a book in the market'. You guys have a deniable way to slip in lore if you want.
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If we're careful and Ning is smart and savvy, we could help her to rise very far within her brother's court, with only minimal work on our part. I like it.

[X] Crake
 
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sight beyond sight
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Hehehe.
egoo said:
I...
Hm.
Well, this works, but I kinda wanted to share our lore on other vile shit that isn't Timmie, and ask for his respective lores on the shit prevalent locally.
I never expected us not to go meet him in person.
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Personally I want a bunch of local culture and lore books to add to the libraries. Hope the Trade Fleet knows to buy as many unique books as they can from the capital.
 
@egoo Good?

[X] Try to arrange another meeting with Pol Qo's sister, then set up a means of staying in contact should it be necessary. Also, point out that we think it is best that her influence settle into at least an equilibrium with Xue, who we try to delicately point out has had more time to entrench her position in the upper levels of court, and of course even if she isn't as adept in matters of social graces, is definitely canny enough to understand what we really mean, that she isn't as skilled at maneuvering in those circles without more grand shows of power and wisdom.
-[X] To aid with this we use the most powerful magic in the world--Wealth By Level-o-Mancy. We can arrange her acquisition of enchanted totems, one of which could grant her a measure of a silver tongue, as well as some other odds and ends that might give her an edge over her rival.
-[X] In exchange we seek not any token or favor which could become a conflict of interest within her own area of remit, just updates on efforts against enemies such as Tiamat and the like, so that other factors might better martial their efforts where they will be most effective, and when they will be most effective.
-[X] In addition, 'the Kami' could give her a "lead" to investigate several caches of lore hidden in the mountainous hinterlands nearby, not only further cementing her influence at court greatly but we can slip in numerous suitably 'aged' looking documents from various eras for authenticity containing lore that could have believably been written by some Eastern Scholar. Have Tyene and our Construct guides with the Fleet try to work out some convincing ones with details that could match their own corresponding timeframe of life.
--[X] There are some texts we will have to give her that she will have to reveal as her own knowledge from trials and tribulations against darkness, like Rina's journals, but that in itself can be a benefit as it reveals she is not only recovering lost knowledge of dark powers but writing her own accounts as she encounters their marks upon the world.
---[X] Of course we need to offset all of the ominous texts with more positive ones sprinkled in, esoteric knowledge on the spheres perhaps, on trade and finance in the west for a town who's lifeblood is trade secured by a canny deal by herself with a visiting dignitary, and sets of texts on architecture and engineering purchased from a merchant venturer who had visited grand halls of stone glistening with a thousand thousand gems.
----[X] The shared lore regarding dark malignancy will generally be the same we shared with our loyalists, modified where appropriate for eastern sensibilities and as props. Given the provenance of them will have been Mindblanked, any attempts to call out their origins will be met with equal skepticism since they can't exactly point anyone towards where they might have come from instead. At best it will look like a weak attempt at halting Pol Ning An's rising star.

[X] Have Aradia and Mereth look around the market searching for the following:
-[X] Books on local history and traditions.
-[X] Any other unique knowledge is a boon, even if not necessarily esoteric in nature, Yi Ti is a land with a well-established bureaucracy already and might have means to do math and accounting, or similar logistical things involving architecture and engineering, that would be of great value. You are most curious about paper production, and to be honest even acquiring several samples would allow you to attempt researching the most efficient means of wide-scale manufacturing for it, a boon to your administrative efforts, civil, militarily or otherwise.
-[X] Lastly you are curious about Yi Ti's ways of prosecuting war, and until you crack open the Citadel's own archives you are starting to bleed Westeros and Essos dry of knowledge in that area.
 
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@Crake mind adding the following?
Pretty please?

[] Tiamat is not the only entity out there seeking the destruction of all - some closer, some more distant - and you believe all right-thinking beings should be aware of those who are "Enemies to all". We would highly appreciate her sharing the lore with her brother as relevant - and ensuring he does not get caught off guard by any dark powers lurking in the shadows - for no one can afford a Ruler of so many falling to them.
-[] Share with her your account on the Others - the newest pawn of the Darkness that once brought about the Long Night - and one that seeks a return in some form.
-[] Efreeti of the Plane of Fire are currently in a violent war, that may or may not see them spilling out onto Plane of Balance for their pillaging ways.
-[] Devils, Demons and Daemons we have fair shares of knowledge on, and methods they use to sneak in their spies, or start vile cults.
-[] Illithids are nearly unimpended to move in the oceans of Plane Material - and few powers are as malicious as the Mind-Eaters. Note the usual tactics of Saghuin raids, and what you know about illithid infiltrators.
-[] The Bloodstone Emperor is acting as far as Eastern Essos, so it is undoubted that his servants are seen here far more often.
-[] We would highly appreciate similar accounts and lores on the threats she can find in this region, as a return favor - but we aren't going to withhold this knowledge even if she has nothing new to let us know.

EDIT: Why did I even bother. Yeah, the addition is good, thanks.
 
egoo said:
@Crake mind adding the following?
Pretty please?

[] Tiamat is not the only entity out there seeking the destruction of all - some closer, some more distant - and you believe all right-thinking beings should be aware of those who are "Enemies to all". We would highly appreciate her sharing the lore with her brother as relevant - and ensuring he does not get caught off guard by any dark powers lurking in the shadows - for no one can afford a Ruler of so many falling to them.
-[] Share with her your account on the Others - the newest pawn of the Darkness that once brought about the Long Night - and one that seeks a return in some form.
-[] Efreeti of the Plane of Fire are currently in a violent war, that may or may not see them spilling out onto Plane of Balance for their pillaging ways.
-[] Devils, Demons and Daemons we have fair shares of knowledge on, and methods they use to sneak in their spies, or start vile cults.
-[] Illithids are nearly unimpended to move in the oceans of Plane Material - and few powers are as malicious as the Mind-Eaters. Note the usual tactics of Saghuin raids, and what you know about illithid infiltrators.
-[] The Bloodstone Emperor is acting as far as Eastern Essos, so it is undoubted that his servants are seen here far more often.
-[] We would highly appreciate similar accounts and lores on the threats she can find in this region, as a return favor - but we aren't going to withhold this knowledge even if she has nothing new to let us know.

EDIT: Why did I even bother. Yeah, the addition is good, thanks.
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We can instead cleverly use giving her lore as a means to raise her influence further, which should give her a stock of good will that will last far beyond retrieving money, especially if she lets it float in steadily over the course of months.
 
Crake said:
@egoo Good?

[X] Try to arrange another meeting with Pol Qo's sister, then set up a means of staying in contact should it be necessary. Also, point out that we think it is best that her influence settle into at least an equilibrium with Xue, who we try to delicately point out has had more time to entrench her position in the upper levels of court, and of course even if she isn't as adept in matters of social graces, is definitely canny enough to understand what we really mean, that she isn't as skilled at maneuvering in those circles without more grand shows of power and wisdom.
-[X] To aid with this we use the most powerful magic in the world--Wealth By Level-o-Mancy. We can arrange her acquisition of enchanted totems, one of which could grant her a measure of a silver tongue, as well as some other odds and ends that might give her an edge over her rival.
-[X] In exchange we seek not any token or favor which could become a conflict of interest within her own area of remit, just updates on efforts against enemies such as Tiamat and the like, so that other factors might better martial their efforts where they will be most effective, and when they will be most effective.
-[X] In addition, 'the Kami' could give her a "lead" to investigate several caches of lore hidden in the mountainous hinterlands nearby, not only further cementing her influence at court greatly but we can slip in numerous suitably 'aged' looking documents from various eras for authenticity containing lore that could have believably been written by some Eastern Scholar. Have Tyene and our Construct guides with the Fleet try to work out some convincing ones with details that could match their own corresponding timeframe of life.
--[X] There are some texts we will have to give her that she will have to reveal as her own knowledge from trials and tribulations against darkness, like Rina's journals, but that in itself can be a benefit as it reveals she is not only recovering lost knowledge of dark powers but writing her own accounts as she encounters their marks upon the world.
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Can you add this? Even if we only send Mereth or Aradia to do it.

I don't want it just for the sake of padding our library, but to further our understanding of the local culture and history, which is important for dealing with people whose societies function so differently than our own.

[] Look around the market searching for
-[] Books on local history and traditions
 
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Crake said:
We can instead cleverly use giving her lore as a means to raise her influence further, which should give her a stock of good will that will last far beyond retrieving money, especially if she lets it float in steadily over the course of months.
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Then it should not be just lore on our foes, after all a constant messenger of bad news will not gain positive reactions at most courts.
Better to add some more universally useful things too.
 
Goldfish said:
Can you add this? Even if we only send Mereth or Aradia to do it.

I don't want it just for the sake of padding our library, but to further our understanding of the local culture and history, which is important for dealing with people whose societies function so differently than our own.

[] Look around the market searching for
-[] Books on local history and traditions
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Added.
 
Crake said:
We can instead cleverly use giving her lore as a means to raise her influence further, which should give her a stock of good will that will last far beyond retrieving money, especially if she lets it float in steadily over the course of months.
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Fair point.
I just dare to assume she'd already know some really juicy stuff on things like Bloodstone Emperor, or weird-ass places and adventure locations near Yi-Ti we haven't really heard of ourselves.

Which is why I wanted to ask her to share what she currently knows now.
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So long as she can keep her brother straight with the lore she "recovers"...

Damn it, there's a reason I insisted on our Loyalists reading all the scary shit we gave them themselves!
I don't trust him to trust her advice based on "ancient lore"!

Stubborness and refusal to believe in scary shit when it amounts to "y'all are fucked" is most believable :(

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@Crake, mind specifying that we share our "full package given to Loyalist Lords", but appropriately modified?
Easier to say, than mention Magical Beasts, Others, Fey, 3 varieties of Fiends, Tiamat, Efreeti, Illithids... one by one.
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Crake said:
Good idea, adding.
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Loyalist Lord package has that :whistle:
[:V]
 
[X] Crake


Other options instead of sketchy radiation weapons:
Euphoric Cloud
Distressing Tone
Hypnotic Pattern
Incessant Buzzing
It's difficult to find cheap AoE save or die spells, so instead we get constant items for low level spells cast with a high CL to make any thieves go through as many different distracting, irritating saves as possible.

Any infiltrators will have to deal with the legion security, so slowing them down and making them fumble stuff is a valid strategy.

If the wagon can be a construct, we could give he/she/it SLAs or 1/day items for spells like
Impossible Angles
Deja Vu
Unbearable Brightness
Flaming Aura

and especially
Aura of Inviolate Ownership

So that it can make obvious calls for help while making escape difficult.

edit: @Goldfish the legion will have other things to protect, like orders or AoE weapons. A full construct might be too much, depending on its cost, but a comprehensive mobile security system that we can use for other things in and out of the legion is a worthwhile investment.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
Then it should not be just lore on our foes, after all a constant messenger of bad news will not gain positive reactions at most courts.
Better to add some more universally useful things too.
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Crake said:
Good idea, adding.
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Is there any helpful knowledge we could share, which may or may not be known in this part of Yi-Ti?

Like the recipes for Healing Salve, Antiplague, and Antitoxin? If those aren't known and Ning is able to introduce them as gifts from the kami, that will be a huge boon to her standing in this region.
 
Goldfish said:
Is there any helpful knowledge we could share, which may or may not be known in this part of Yi-Ti?

Like the recipes for Healing Salve, Antiplague, and Antitoxin? If those aren't known and Ning is able to introduce them as gifts from the kami, that will be a huge boon to her standing in this region.
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That's a bit much; we could give her access to it, but those are valuable bits of lore. Even if we don't care looking too generous makes people suspicious.
 
Goldfish said:
Is there any helpful knowledge we could share, which may or may not be known in this part of Yi-Ti?

Like the recipes for Healing Salve, Antiplague, and Antitoxin? If those aren't known and Ning is able to introduce them as gifts from the kami, that will be a huge boon to her standing in this region.
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I would much rather sell them to her. She can't get everything from the Kami or it starts to look suspicious, which is why I sprinkled in some lore gains that were from trading with westerners.

Maybe an ongoing deal for alchemical products. And not dangerous ones like explosives and the like.
 
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Crake said:
Done.

Smart ass.
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Thanks a lot.

Sorry if I feel overly-invested and nagging at you for this.

I just realize this, but I might have come off like that.
I really don't have that strong of an investment, and really don't want to come off like... ah, someone else. Not knowing when to stop, and all.

Just really tired last few days.
 
egoo said:
Thanks a lot.

Sorry if I feel overly-invested and nagging at you for this.

I just realize this, but I might have come off like that.
I really don't have that strong of an investment, and really don't want to come off like... ah, someone else. Not knowing when to stop, and all.

Just really tired last few days.
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No, I find it amusing, it's just always annoying to me when I have to edit things in, which I still do anyway because it's better to collaborate.

You can take things in good grace and still find it a nuisance. Like getting a splinter while working in a wood shop out back.
 
[X] Try to arrange another meeting with Pol Qo's sister, then set up a means of staying in contact should it be necessary. Also, point out that we think it is best that her influence settle into at least an equilibrium with Xue, who we try to delicately point out has had more time to entrench her position in the upper levels of court, and of course even if she isn't as adept in matters of social graces, is definitely canny enough to understand what we really mean, that she isn't as skilled at maneuvering in those circles without more grand shows of power and wisdom.
-[X] To aid with this we use the most powerful magic in the world--Wealth By Level-o-Mancy. We can arrange her acquisition of enchanted totems, one of which could grant her a measure of a silver tongue, as well as some other odds and ends that might give her an edge over her rival.
-[X] In exchange we seek not any token or favor which could become a conflict of interest within her own area of remit, just updates on efforts against enemies such as Tiamat and the like, so that other factors might better martial their efforts where they will be most effective, and when they will be most effective.
-[X] In addition, 'the Kami' could give her a "lead" to investigate several caches of lore hidden in the mountainous hinterlands nearby, not only further cementing her influence at court greatly but we can slip in numerous suitably 'aged' looking documents from various eras for authenticity containing lore that could have believably been written by some Eastern Scholar. Have Tyene and our Construct guides with the Fleet try to work out some convincing ones with details that could match their own corresponding timeframe of life.
--[X] There are some texts we will have to give her that she will have to reveal as her own knowledge from trials and tribulations against darkness, like Rina's journals, but that in itself can be a benefit as it reveals she is not only recovering lost knowledge of dark powers but writing her own accounts as she encounters their marks upon the world.
---[X] Of course we need to offset all of the ominous texts with more positive ones sprinkled in, esoteric knowledge on the spheres perhaps, on trade and finance in the west for a town who's lifeblood is trade secured by a canny deal by herself with a visiting dignitary, and sets of texts on architecture and engineering purchased from a merchant venturer who had visited grand halls of stone glistening with a thousand thousand gems.
----[X] The shared lore regarding dark malignancy will generally be the same we shared with our loyalists, modified where appropriate for eastern sensibilities and as props. Given the provenance of them will have been Mindblanked, any attempts to call out their origins will be met with equal skepticism since they can't exactly point anyone towards where they might have come from instead. At best it will look like a weak attempt at halting Pol Ning An's rising star.
-----[X] Lastly, Corlys has certain contacts who could facilitate an ongoing deal to sell her things like Healing Salve, Antiplague and Antitoxin, Vermin Repellent as well as hangover cures, contraceptives and other mostly harmless but extremely useful products. If she inquires about military hardware, flatly tell her that unfortunately, there are dozens or more routine divinations being performed about trades like that being conducted ever since Wildfire was used in an attempt to burn down an infamous port, so it would probably be a Very Bad Idea to try moving large amounts of explosive, incendiary or other esoteric lethal poisons or substances out of the West.

[X] Have Aradia and Mereth look around the market searching for the following:
-[X] Books on local history and traditions.
-[X] Any other unique knowledge is a boon, even if not necessarily esoteric in nature, Yi Ti is a land with a well-established bureaucracy already and might have means to do math and accounting, or similar logistical things involving architecture and engineering, that would be of great value. You are most curious about paper production, and to be honest even acquiring several samples would allow you to attempt researching the most efficient means of wide-scale manufacturing for it, a boon to your administrative efforts, civil, militarily or otherwise.
-[X] In addition, you are curious about Yi Ti's ways of prosecuting war, and until you crack open the Citadel's own archives you are starting to bleed Westeros and Essos dry of knowledge in that area.
--[X] Acquire a dozen zorses for the Imperial Stables as well.
 
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Little did Ning know, she was being prepped to serve as the Imperial Governor of Trader Town by the Dragon King himself...
 
[X] Crake

I do wonder how many people Planetos-wide realize who "Corlys Waters" actually is. Or even how many simply suspect it.
 
Goldfish said:
Little did Ning know, she was being prepped to serve as the Imperial Governor of Trader Town by the Dragon King himself...
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It honestly might be something we can later arrange, especially if Pol Qo falls in battle but his sister lives and we haven't made significant enough headway in south by then. Assuming he survives for a while however, I would focus more on Azure, and instead would mostly just think about extracting her and her followers if Mah Boi manages to entice us well enough.

I have a feeling we'll make some big gains there, though.
 
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