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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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egoo said:
...eh, the books we are oversaturated with.

Admittedly, so are the PCs, but at least this'll get us another chance to empower OGs, whereas a Warg-book is... well, just an account of 2k years of [redacted] behavior by a mad fuck.

Go for eet, sayeth I.
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We can have cake and eat it too, tho. Empowering the OG we can and will do... and get THAT NASTY ASS historical account from the man on the scene. The secrets he surely knows... I can taste them.
 
Crake said:
I want his delicious thousands of years of forbidden knowledge and lore.
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I hardly mind another Peoplebook to add to the shelf, but realistically, Rickard is probably short on real knowledge. How much of his time was spent learning rather than half-assedly concocting one scheme or another to keep the Bracken/Blackwood feud going for thousands of years? How many pages of his book will be nothing but existing as one animal or another? We could extract the useful information from him, then use his dead to seal the Blackwoods as an ally while possibly elevating Hoster to a full Druid. Either way, I'm happy with the outcome.

[X] Crake
 
Goldfish said:
I hardly mind another Peoplebook to add to the shelf, but realistically, Rickard is probably short on real knowledge. How much of his time was spent learning rather than half-assedly concocting one scheme or another to keep the Bracken/Blackwood feud going for thousands of years? How many pages of his book will be nothing but existing as one animal or another? We could extract the useful information from him, then use his dead to seal the Blackwoods as an ally while possibly elevating Hoster to a full Druid. Either way, I'm happy with the outcome.

[X] Crake
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Fiiiine. Edit made. And I kinda like the poetic justice of it all.
 
Goldfish said:
I hardly mind another Peoplebook to add to the shelf, but realistically, Rickard is probably short on real knowledge. How much of his time was spent learning rather than half-assedly concocting one scheme or another to keep the Bracken/Blackwood feud going for thousands of years? How many pages of his book will be nothing but existing as one animal or another? We could extract the useful information from him, then use his dead to seal the Blackwoods as an ally while possibly elevating Hoster to a full Druid. Either way, I'm happy with the outcome.

[X] Crake
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Crake said:
Fiiiine. Edit made. And I kinda like the poetic justice of it all.
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Just a note, we can bookify him and trivially copy all his knowledge down thanks to an army of Calligraphy Wyrms and liberal use of magic, and then afterwards we can give him to the Old Gods. He's probably enough thematically to fully enchant the Blackwood Heart Tree given that he was the one who wrecked it in the first place.

The knowledge is worth storing away just in case. There truly isn't a reason we can't do both. Even the insane ramblings of enemies are worth preserving on the offchance that something of genuine importance is buried in there.

EDIT: Most importantly @Crake @Goldfish, he's not a spellcaster of any note. With casters we need the original books to have access to those spells. Everyone else? No reason we can't just have a copy and sacrifice the original.
 
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Duesal said:
Just a note, we can bookify him and trivially copy all his knowledge down thanks to an army of Calligraphy Wyrms and liberal use of magic, and then afterwards we can give him to the Old Gods. He's probably enough thematically to fully enchant the Blackwood Heart Tree given that he was the one who wrecked it in the first place.

The knowledge is worth storing away just in case. There truly isn't a reason we can't do both. Even the insane ramblings of enemies are worth preserving on the offchance that something of genuine importance is buried in there.

EDIT: Most importantly @Crake @Goldfish, he's not a spellcaster of any note. With casters we need the original books to have access to those spells. Everyone else? No reason we can't just have a copy and sacrifice the original.
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Assuming @DragonParadox says we can do this, the vote still allows for us to do this after the fact, there will obviously be a delay between now and that ritual.
 
Crake said:
We can have cake and eat it too, tho. Empowering the OG we can and will do... and get THAT NASTY ASS historical account from the man on the scene. The secrets he surely knows... I can taste them.
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In before it's a book about two thousand years of being a creep watching the Blackwoods all the time including when they bathe and interludes were he lives like a animal for centuries.
 
MasterDrakus said:
In before it's a book about two thousand years of being a creep watching the Blackwoods all the time including when they bathe and interludes were he lives like a animal for centuries.
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It probably is, but it's still going in our library. Any time we have more Bracken/Blackwood bullshit, we can make them read the book. All of it.
 
silvanknight said:
Could we grow Borutas in the fungus forge? If we can, will adding it the Druid Creature template help or would it be redundant?
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We should be able to grow them. A Druid Creature template would exceed 10 CR, so we can't do it now. It probably won't stack with Borutas, though even if it did, they would likely be better if just getting more racial HD.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Dec 5, 2019 at 9:56 PM, finished with 51 posts and 10 votes.
  • [X] You will ease into the conversation by explaining that for most of the Lords of Westeros that you've visited, defenses against the more insidious foes and threats, usually the most prescient and powerful, have been rather slim, so you've used your own wealth of experience dealing with cults and fiends and other foulness by generally cleaning up the immediate problems most are facing whom you have already visited. It just so happens that whatever ancient threat that had risen up wasn't at all lying dormant through Magic's slumber like most, it was that which threatened both House Blackwood and House Bracken for nigh uncountable generations.
    -[X] You lead him along the threads of insight as you followed them, proving not only your competence but the care you placed into the matter, the sword, the Lady, chains of logic succinctly lain out and hopefully your cleverness and light touch endears you to them, if not the meat of the subject, most of what you tell him, if it had come to pass, do not paint a pretty picture for the depths of depravity and loathing Rickard Stark would sink to. You paint Lady Catelyn in the best light that you can, hoping to use clever conversational turns to render any ire he might feel away from Brackens and onto the monster which tried to engineer a horrid fate for both Lords' children, and ultimately the destruction of their lines. No more to blame than Hoster or really either of the High Lords for all that, as they had danced on unseen strings since the very day they were born.
    --[X] You know this will spark anger, not necessarily at you, maybe rage at Rickard, though you had the idea to sacrifice him--after extracting as much useful information from him as possible--in order to both help empower the Raven Tree, but perhaps also make Hoster Blackwood a true Druid with a connection to the Old Gods. The important part is the distinction that the ancient feud, thousands of years of intricate, maddened schemes, even the very foundations of it such as a poisoned Raven Tree, can be lain at the feet at either all of them, or one of them who ultimately won't get to be the one who decides that the only legacy left behind of the grand tragedy shall be the ashes of the dead and forgotten.
    ---[X] Moreover, this may perhaps be the last chance for a clean break. What else could convince him, short of Jonos Bracken of all people being tentatively open to a true marriage and dynastic alliance, unshadowed by hidden barbs and last minute spite? In any other world but this one it would be impossible to extract such a huge change of heart were what we spoke here not both completely accurate, but more importantly carrying a more poignant truth:
    ----[X] While it might have been a Blackwood who lay at the heart of this madness, if we set aside other ancient sins, far and away from living memory as they are, who has the right to hold those living now, with responsibilities to to both their living heirs and their subjects, accountable for what might set aright those deeds, and not at the hand by some vengeful specter or distant liege haphazardly telling both sides to shake hands and get along, but those scions who today can make of the world a brighter and kinder place?
    -----[X] Wearily, you close your account with the following: "Ultimately my Lord, I implore you to consider this, please. For years I have faced all kinds of horrors, prevented the worst atrocities from being committed on Westerosi soil, often times for people who wouldn't feel an ounce of gratitude for the efforts. It was my duty, yes, but it was also a thrill and a pleasure to stop monsters or alien minds from just having their way with us all. This tale? It's not my glory, for I shan't be sharing it far and wide, nor does it bring me pleasure that so much sorrow was woven together much like a serpent devouring its own tail. It's not a story simply of monsters and wraiths from the past, heroes stepping forth to stop them, or glory and accolades thus dispensed. It's a tale of men and women. No one will learn of it outside of these two Keeps and in the councils of Kings... but perhaps that is for the best? Anything else would just earn us the laughter of thirsting gods."
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[X] Crake

Duesal said:
It probably is, but it's still going in our library. Any time we have more Bracken/Blackwood bullshit, we can make them read the book. All of it.
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The weird shit factor of that library is pretty high isn't it? Not just in the usual secret knowledge way either; stuff like this unsettlingly detailed diary and that guide to becoming undead without also becoming a prick is pretty out there, even by high fantasy standards.

I imagine browsing there is a bit like our version of Bertie Bott's every flavor beans; sometime you get obscure knowledge on stuff like how to kill dragons, and sometimes you end up with a perspective piece on what shitting while warged to a bear is like.:V
 
And sometimes you get a little black booklet filled with the King's personal erotic fiction suspiciously detailed reports heavily featuring Azema for some reason...
 
Crake said:
And sometimes you get a little black booklet filled with the King's personal erotic fiction suspiciously detailed reports heavily featuring Azema for some reason...
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Is this about the hill naming thing? Because Viserys seems like he's not easily "distracted".

On the subject of names, what's the cadet branch going to be called? Are they just going to go by a name they make up on the spot (like Brackenwood or something) or is there a protocol for this?
 
BronzeTongue said:
[X] Crake


The weird shit factor of that library is pretty high isn't it? Not just in the usual secret knowledge way either; stuff like this unsettlingly detailed diary and that guide to becoming undead without also becoming a prick is pretty out there, even by high fantasy standards.

I imagine browsing there is a bit like our version of Bertie Bott's every flavor beans; sometime you get obscure knowledge on stuff like how to kill dragons, and sometimes you end up with a perspective piece on what shitting while warged to a bear is like.:V
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Granted, we still need to get books that actively try to kill you. Just to have that authentic feel. :V
 
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