So how much does each forged beast purchased actually profit us?

The cost to us to produce is that much? I think it's best to leave both values visible in the vote.

@Goldfish added 2 sets to the list.
We're charging them full price for each CR 8 servitor, which is 4800 IM, but each one only costs us 2400 IM. Hopefully they'll make a huge purchase and offset our order by a good margin.

I don't feel bad about that because they're rich and don't mind charging us full retail markup.

EDIT: Went back and made a note of this in the vote, with their price versus our cost.
 
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We're charging them full price for each CR 8 servitor, which is 4800 IM, but each one only costs us 2400 IM. Hopefully they'll make a huge purchase and offset our order by a good margin.

I don't feel bad about that because they're rich and don't mind charging us full retail markup.

EDIT: Went back and made a note of this in the vote, with their price versus our cost.
Hopefully they buy a few hundred, then. And hopefully they're so effective they buy a few hundred more.
 
Please tell me you all finally made time to create a true blue spy agency. I'm at the part where you guys stumbled into another shitty Lannister conspiracy by chance. They weren't even being quiet about what they were doing. Given you're building an Empire it seems silly that you have literally no comprehensive state based intelligence agency at all.

The thread seemed poised to start war with Westoros over Tywin planning to attack Tyroshi business too, which seems an extreme response.
 
Please tell me you all finally made time to create a true blue spy agency. I'm at the part where you guys stumbled into another shitty Lannister conspiracy by chance. They weren't even being quiet about what they were doing. Given you're building an Empire it seems silly that you have literally no comprehensive state based intelligence agency at all.

The thread seemed poised to start war with Westoros over Tywin planning to attack Tyroshi business too, which seems an extreme response.
There's something called "The Imperial Inquisition" by now. It does pretty much exactly what you assume it does, based on the name.
 
I'm ahead of you this time! :p

Those are already in the Armory, or in the case of some of the gear, have been assigned to other characters.
Who has the Crossbow now?
I think the Hippogriffs are pretty neat and will do exactly what the Shaitan want. The Wyverns, however, are something I think we might want to invest in. In addition to being stupid fast and hard to hit, their poison is extremely difficult to resist and since it deals enhanced Constitution damage, it's also quite deadly. DC 25 Fortitude saves are not easy to make, even for a lot of high level threats. And the Wyvern can make two poison sting attacks per round, or three if it uses its extra attack for it. It's a shame that some of our greatest enemies, the Others and Devils, are immune to poison.
I kinda doubt the utility of the Wyverns.
Not their deadlyness of course, but they are dragons with animal intelligence and thus propably very hard to tame.
And their specific role as mage-hunter is difficult for an animal to understand, so they'd likely need riders.

I'm not sure how to solve this issue without adding intelligence in the mix. Maybe control-rituals?
 
Who has the Crossbow now?

I kinda doubt the utility of the Wyverns.
Not their deadlyness of course, but they are dragons with animal intelligence and thus propably very hard to tame.
And their specific role as mage-hunter is difficult for an animal to understand, so they'd likely need riders.

I'm not sure how to solve this issue without adding intelligence in the mix. Maybe control-rituals?
I kinda agree on the wyverns but im also really ignorant when it comes to the mechanics of this stuff soooo
 
Hey @DragonParadox, beyond general gratitude for basically making them his Wards despite there being really no familial ties or political advantage to it, what do Reva and Liset think of Viserys and the Targaryen household et al? They seem pretty close to Rhaella, but because of how busy Viserys is I often wonder what the people we rescue from a life of mediocrity, or in some cases a short existence as Fiend-bait, think of him. Towering icon like Tywin made himself out to be? I think not, since Viserys does go out of his way to make the moments he gets to speak to people count, and is far better at forming connections.

I wouldn't quite call that "good at being unguarded" since he only is that with the Companions and his family, and occasionally with people who shared a lot of experiences with him the Sealord and Uthero, but there's a marked difference from being "not a person, just a cultural symbol" and "when he speaks to you, you actually matter to him as a person and vice versa".

I imagine Viserys himself is mildly exasperated by how he has to carefully distinguish between fully wearing the mask in front of people like the Three Daughters nobility, the 40 Families of Volantis, etc., showing only the character he's playing. Or letting the mask come loose enough before someone like the Twins to show "yes, I'm a real person too, when I can afford to be, but keep quiet about that" and "the world's on fire again, how are we going to get ourselves out of the mess this time?"

Tl;Dr Have we collected too many orphans?! OR NOT ENOUGH?! More orphans. They have all the narrative trimmings to become really diligent troubleshooters.

Viserys treats the twins about how he treated Dany back before she embraced the dream, trying to be as honest about himself as he can without revealing too much about lordship and the world they all live in. Rather than being exasperated by it he sort of enjoys the in between state since it keeps his various roles from settling into too sharp a duality 'here is the king and here is the man, Brynden and Bloodraven', he has seen how that sort of thign wears on people. As for how the twins specifically see him 'best big brother ever', it's not like they have had anything to compare the experience to and all the formality and briefness of the visits fit in well with a Volantine mindset.
 
Viserys treats the twins about how he treated Dany back before she embraced the dream, trying to be as honest about himself as he can without revealing too much about lordship and the world they all live in. Rather than being exasperated by it he sort of enjoys the in between state since it keeps his various roles from settling into too sharp a duality 'here is the king and here is the man, Brynden and Bloodraven', he has seen how that sort of thign wears on people. As for how the twins specifically see him 'best big brother ever', it's not like they have had anything to compare the experience to and all the formality and briefness of the visits fit in well with a Volantine mindset.
I like how you specifically call out Brynden there. It shows how large an impact Bloodraven has had on Viserys' life, but the ironic part is where if people saw his involvement in Viserys' life they would accuse him of being the master manipulator who schooled Viserys into being the Big Bad, like Pycelle thought went down.

But funnily Viserys got there all on his own, Brynden just gave him some extra motivation.
 
A good level 10 transition to mid-tier adventurer would be to return to Volantis, decked out in magical gear and on dragonback, for a nice, dramatic family reunion.
That's a great character beat, but really isn't worth beating a level cap.
No, IMO they should bypass their level cap after a climactic battle against the Others after they unwisely use the Greendream to spy on one directly.

I hate to use TV show material like this, but I loved the idea that the Others can catch you if a greenseer isn't careful when watching them...

Viserys treats the twins about how he treated Dany back before she embraced the dream, trying to be as honest about himself as he can without revealing too much about lordship and the world they all live in. Rather than being exasperated by it he sort of enjoys the in between state since it keeps his various roles from settling into too sharp a duality 'here is the king and here is the man, Brynden and Bloodraven', he has seen how that sort of thign wears on people. As for how the twins specifically see him 'best big brother ever', it's not like they have had anything to compare the experience to and all the formality and briefness of the visits fit in well with a Volantine mindset.
Aww. That's sad, but sweet.

They're sworn to us, right?
I'm not sure about the details of their oaths anymore, but it was a vassal/liege thing phrased in a Volantene (client/patron) manner, right?
In any case they're greenseers, the OGs will keep them helpful to our goals regardless :D
 
So how much of the 100k for higher items does this leave? And @Goldfish who can use the Cylinders the most?
Ah, crap. I forgot we had the 100,000 IM limit on 11-15th caster level. We didn't exceed it, but are instead way under. Lemme see what I can do.
Who has the Crossbow now?

I kinda doubt the utility of the Wyverns.
Not their deadlyness of course, but they are dragons with animal intelligence and thus propably very hard to tame.
And their specific role as mage-hunter is difficult for an animal to understand, so they'd likely need riders.

I'm not sure how to solve this issue without adding intelligence in the mix. Maybe control-rituals?
No one has the crossbow yet. It's still in the Armory.

As for the Wyverns, they're not Plant-creatures, so they can be subjected to Mind-Affecting magic by the Shaitan, which should help with training if nothing else. Or they can be guided more directly via magic.

They should be able to be trained to seek out a specific target on a battlefield, considering their sharp senses. Just use a Scrying mirror to show the Wyverns what their target looks like and point them in the right direction, and that should do the trick.

And if nothing else, they can be trained to simply seek out and kill any Efreeti they see. The Efreeti use a lot of slave soldiers are rarely grunts themselves, so killing them will often be the safe bet to remove an officer or mage.
 
So since there is still some discussion on the vote I'll start off with another interlude today, Barrowtown this time.
By any chance can we start using Pathfinder rules for magic staves? Or have them be a separate kind of item that is also available for purchase alongside traditional versions?

They function the same, except rather than having 50 charges upon creation, they only have 10 charges. Charges can be restored, however, at a rate of 1 per day.
 
Barring some unforeseen complication, we could get it done, but it will take up half the month.
We also have dealing with Tiamat's forces, and looking around PoW for more allies agaisnt Illithid in 12th month. At the very least.

I dare say, that both are a bit more of a priority than "easy" visits, which we can more-or-less affford to put on a backburner if I got that right.
Same for some of the "delicate" ones.

Otherwise, carry on.
 
What do ya'll think about getting a few Rings of Nine Lives? They don't use the PF Nine Lives, spell, but rather work a little like the Ring of Delayed Doom we have in the Armory, just much better.

They would cost 14,000 IM each. I was thinking we could get one for Dany and Lya, since they both have an available ring slot. Maybe Rhaella, too? It's something that would be nice for all the important people to have, though it would require some prep work to open up the necessary ring slots over the coming months.
Ring of Nine Lives: This ancient ring is made of ivory and carved to resemble a snarling cat's face on one end. If the wearer ever drops to 0 hit points or below, the ring expends one of its charges to cast a heal spell upon her. The wearer can also expend a charge if she fails a saving throw, allowing her to treat the saving throw as a success. A ring of nine lives has 9 charges when created, but most are discovered with only 2d4 charges left.
 
What do ya'll think about getting a few Rings of Nine Lives? They don't use the PF Nine Lives, spell, but rather work a little like the Ring of Delayed Doom we have in the Armory, just much better.

They would cost 14,000 IM each. I was thinking we could get one for Dany and Lya, since they both have an available ring slot. Maybe Rhaella, too? It's something that would be nice for all the important people to have, though it would require some prep work to open up the necessary ring slots over the coming months.
I would argue that the base effect of RIng of Delayed Doom is a bit better at our power-levels than RoNL's - with the abundance of save-or-suck thrown around, from petrification to soul-destruction, with few actually applying death-via-HP.
But "treat saving throw as a success upon discharging" is better than "have effect apply only a minute later per charge" too.

I don't mind ordering some.
Can't we make slotless stuff of this, tho?
 
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