'Night guys, see you tomorrow with more politics on the plane of Water and probably some Yi Ti investigation and world-building.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
-
- Tags
- a song of ice and fire a sword without a hilt d&d 3.5 dungeons & dragons 100% high octane dragon fuel ave corvidae battle action dragon diplomacy best sister bureaucromancy delicious soul-stuff dragon dreams come true dragon ta'veren greatest uncle hubris is a coward's word in defiance of gods and men mammon's folly mutually assured mage's disjunction qm murderhobo top tier coatl
- Location
- ?????????
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
...Alright, I get the hint
I'll stat something up tomorrow.
I wonder if there are any low-hd high-status sneks around...
With that Gaegantuan trick...
But first, serpent for comparison, yes.
...Will prolly ask lots of stuff.
G'night all.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
That'll be the next step. First we should get an idea of their expectations before working out the details of the exchange.
Last edited:
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Who say we make it into a Zomok, we use its body and a sufficiently draconic soul from the Greendream to make the Zomok.
What do we need a dragon corpse for anyway, the Fungus Forge can produce all the dragon materials we want it to, so at most we need samples from the Brine dragon before we sacrifice it, so we can grow dragon materials, that only have a metaphysical link to it.
- Location
- United States
The dragon corpse is for producing the dragon materials. This isn't like trophies where you only need a finger to use Make Whole on, for something like this you need the majority of the corpse to work into a fungal pod.
Also Zomoks are of limited use since by their very nature they'd be limited to a specific tree. Felzath for example is powerful, sure, but he also can't go beyond Sorcerer's Deep. It's a big waste of a potential resource we could be using to get our rangers and druids armored in dragonhide.
- Location
- Mexico
Why not add it to your vote? It makes sense that we Begin by giving him an explanation of the flesh forge including the costs, that way he can tell us his offer alongside his request.
We can then negotiate based on that.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Um no you don't, we are able to make Valyrian dragon materials, the only reason we can't make Red dragon or Brine dragon materials, is that any materials made has a metaphysical connection to the donor, and we don't want to mass produce vectors for cursing us Amrelath or Relath.
And the argument about armoring our rangers in dragon hide isn't specially good, we can already do that, we just have to decide which of our Valyrian dragons, we are okay with having a bunch of cursing vectors out there.
Or at least that's how I remember it went, when DP decided the cost of producing dragon materials, but if you think I'm wrong we can ask him.
@DragonParadox to make a fungal pod capable of making dragon materials do we need a dead dragon, or can we just take samples from our living dragons then heal them back?(or put them back after we have grown enough new material, that said new material can be used as the seed)
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
I, for one, wonder if Brines taste like salted fish.
I'm sure there is market for Fungal Sack-grown Brine meat.
Zomoks aren't very useful, yes.
Even had we empowered ours beyond any reason (as was he option, tenatively), he would have been limited still even at potential 22CR.
And this guys is pointedly not worth our time as a minion.
We can Fleshforge someone stronger than an Adult Brine.
With better temperament, too.
It's kinda harrowing to realize that we might have lucked out with Relath compared to some
- Location
- United States
Yeah, I'm not okay with leaving our Valyrian Dragons open for attack like that, which is why I've been looking for a different dragon. We could use a Valyrian Dragon of ours, but I'm against the idea.
Oh yes. Compared to what I've been hearing of the other Brine Dragons we totally lucked out. Also I bet they do taste like salted fish.I, for one, wonder if Brines taste like salted fish.
I'm sure there is market for Fungal Sack-grown Brine meat.
Zomoks aren't very useful, yes.
Even had we empowered ours beyond any reason (as was he option, tenatively), he would have been limited still even at potential 22CR.
And this guys is pointedly not worth our time as a minion.
We can Fleshforge someone stronger than an Adult Brine.
With better temperament, too.
It's kinda harrowing to realize that we might have lucked out with Relath compared to some
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Because I would rather not give away any information relating to how the Forge works or how we recycle corpses if it turns out that we cannot come to a beneficial arrangement.
This could be the first step in a long and profitable partnership, or it could crash and burn due to unrealistic expectations from the Admiral, a lack of suitable budget, etc. I'm not in a hurry to finish our first interaction with a major authority in Vialisk in just one or two chapters.
- Location
- ?????????
We can make Spellscales apparently? That is interesting.
- Location
- United States
Yep. We can make spellscales, kobolds, draconids, etc.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Mind, Saen finishing her research is not guaranteed this month.
It is still 8 Progress, IIRC.
Would be useful, tho.
Valyrians must be rolling in their ashes from all the shite we are pulling with our heretical ways.
So snake creatures to ask for from Yss. I found this which might be entertaining to grab a few of. Replacing some of the official with flying snakes would be a fun way to throw shade on the measters.
@egoo
For the actual Yssian hyper creature, isn't his domain technically "scalykind" or something to that effect? As far as I'm aware that essentially includes everything vaguely reptilian/scaly, like say painted lizards.
Why not a colossal gigantian T. Rex of legend?
@egoo
For the actual Yssian hyper creature, isn't his domain technically "scalykind" or something to that effect? As far as I'm aware that essentially includes everything vaguely reptilian/scaly, like say painted lizards.
Why not a colossal gigantian T. Rex of legend?
- Location
- ?????????
If we fund Saenena's research she might come up with some interesting things. Her research was very good.
- Location
- United States
True, true. We'll just see what she gets done.
That would be hilarious. I wish we could put Mighty on it, but that messes with the CR too much.
Yeah, Saenena was an excellent investment.
- Location
- ?????????
@DragonParadox does Saenana not have the "Researcher" special quality? I imagine she would have considering her unique studies.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Honestly, I would have fucking loved to experiment around, but...
Well, Illithids are the priority.
After they are done, all the stuff we made will still be in use, our massive teade-based economy needs protection in this high-magic world.
And even a (potential, I hope I manage something there) Leviathan-killer snek will not be left without work.
CR of fleshforging (15) and Yss' blessing (+2) make a pretty good creature base from what I can tell (little, actually. But lots of options to play around).
Bottom line, its not the only creature ever we can enhance like that, if not immediately.
We shall have lots of Monsters of Legends, eventually.
Last edited:
- Location
- United States
She should. If she doesn't that needs to be fixed.
- Location
- United States
Can someone remind me what we did with Jorah Mormont? I know his wife is with us.
- Location
- ?????????
I think we sent him to the Wall. At least that is what the conversation with Lord Hightower is implying.
- Location
- United States
He was indeed promptly booted to the Wall on behalf of House Mormont. Lord Commander Jeor Mormont is watching over him now.
The base creature is only cr8. If we want to go for full cheese we could create it as cr 14-15 mighty gigantean T. Rex, then have Yss bless it with the legendary monster template after its out of the forge.True, true. We'll just see what she gets done.
That would be hilarious. I wish we could put Mighty on it, but that messes with the CR too much.
Yeah, Saenena was an excellent investment.
edit: added clarification.