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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Abhishek M said:
ALL the forces in an Infinite Plane moved onto one planet? Or did most go to Nirvana? And link please?
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We don't know the distribution of the Deep Ones refugees -- a lot certainly could have fled to Nirvana -- but the point here is that we are pretty damn sure Prime Material got a hefty boost as well. If it didn't, with that kind of firepower the Deep Ones wouldn't have ever entertained the idea of a ceasefire against level 12 Viserys.

And for whatever reason I can't find the rumors post. I don't know where it went, or whether it got deleted, or if I'm just looking in the wrong place, but I am 100% sure it happened. That said, I've also been looking for 30 minutes now and I'm hungry.
 
I am half convinced that they agreed to back the fuck off Viserys because of the sheer audacity and pugnacity with which he delivered his threat to "make a literal fucking pyramid out of your entire species' skulls that towers out of the ocean".

It was a pretty crazy threat. As in, "this guy is crazy enough to try it". Like do they even have skulls? I don't think he cares. And that's what worries them!
 
Crake said:
I am half convinced that they agreed to back the fuck off Viserys because of the sheer audacity and pugnacity with which he delivered his threat to "make a literal fucking pyramid out of your entire species' skulls that towers out of the ocean".

It was a pretty crazy threat. As in, "this guy is crazy enough to try it". Like do they even have skulls? I don't think he cares. And that's what worries them!
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I was disappointed at the time that they accepted the ceasefire. I really wanted to deliver on the threat.
 
Duesal said:
I was disappointed at the time that they accepted the ceasefire. I really wanted to deliver on the threat.
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Probably would have leveled up faster if we abandoned kingdom building gameplay and went straight to guerrilla warfare against them.

Though we would have been looting things constantly, you do realize that we wouldn't have a giant ocean of money and dozens of enchanters and stuff, right?
 
Crake said:
Probably would have leveled up faster if we abandoned kingdom building gameplay and went straight to guerrilla warfare against them.

Though we would have been looting things constantly, you do realize that we wouldn't have a giant ocean of money and dozens of enchanters and stuff, right?
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I only half-regret it. I like being rich and ruling the Imperium a lot more.

It's just that my heart will always yearn for loot.
 
We've been looting too much and not enough clearing of backlog, I say.

Can we sacrifice that Dreadnaught and get that Soul Eating research done for Dark Sister already???
 
Takesis said:
We've been looting too much and not enough clearing of backlog, I say.

Can we sacrifice that Dreadnaught and get that Soul Eating research done for Dark Sister already???
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Oh yeah the dreadnaught is still around, paralyzed and stored.
Damn, we are kind of like those wasps that paralyze their prey so their larva can slowly eat them alive later.
 
Takesis said:
We've been looting too much and not enough clearing of backlog, I say.

Can we sacrifice that Dreadnaught and get that Soul Eating research done for Dark Sister already???
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Upgrading Dark Sister will happen on 12th or 1st month, if nothing goes terribly wrong, Lya's new crafting body allows for that much...

Albeit, it won't make her a main weapon of choice, no upgrade really will, Viserys is not melee-oriented.

And Dreadnought is really a pointless research, imo.
Neither of the things he can give is really of any priority, and they would take lots of people-time to boot.
 
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egoo said:
Upgrading Dark Sister will happen on 12th or 1st month, if nothing goes terribly wrong, Lya's new crafting body allows for that much...

Albeit, it won't make her a main weapon of choice, no upgrade really will, Viserys is not melee-oriented.

And Dreadnought is really a pointless research, imo.
Neither of the things he can give is really of any priority, and they would take lots of people-time to boot.
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It's an at-will antimagic cone that extends 150 feet. That really isn't as useless as you're making it out to be.
 
@egoo TBH let's be honest with ourselves, turning Dark Sister into an Artifact is partially just pampering our Sword Waifu and giving her some utilitarian usage that we'd constantly rely on (Frostmourne abilities FTW).

It will also mean she's less likely to straight up die to a Disjunction without a save.
 
Duesal said:
It's an at-will antimagic cone that extends 150 feet. That really isn't as useless as you're making it out to be.
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Just another shiny.
Yet one more item that will be rarely (if ever) used, I all but guarantee that.

I've cooled off on new items.
We have plenty, any new ones don't feel special and/or don't get the exposure.
Crake said:
It will also mean she's less likely to straight up die to a Disjunction without a save.
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the only reason I'm willing to make more Artifacts tbh, instead of, say, more ships or items of strategic import (like teleport circles).
 
egoo said:
Just another shiny.
Yet one more item that will be rarely (if ever) used, I all but guarantee that.

I've cooled off on new items.
We have plenty, any new ones don't feel special and/or don't get the exposure.
the only reason I'm willing to make more Artifacts tbh, instead of, say, more ships or items of strategic import (like teleport circles).
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I'm baffled by your stance here. It's not a "shiny", it's a pretty massive strategic asset. Being able to produce and mount things like this on the Moonchasers eventually would be a huge advantage.

Other things have priority, of course, that's why this isn't being researched right away. I'm getting a bit annoyed that there's a near constant squabble over using the Astral Dreadnaught as a sacrifice right this second when the research benefits are so clear.
 
Duesal said:
I'm baffled by your stance here. It's not a "shiny", it's a pretty massive strategic asset. Being able to produce and mount things like this on the Moonchasers eventually would be a huge advantage.

Other things have priority, of course, that's why this isn't being researched right away. I'm getting a bit annoyed that there's a near constant squabble over using the Astral Dreadnaught as a sacrifice right this second when the research benefits are so clear.
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Unless we somehow get more of the Dreadnoughts captive, it is highly unlikely we'll get these things in amount anywhere near that they'd play well in strategic capacity.

And they aren't easy to find, or capture.

So, I don't think the project worth it when we are already looking into exotic energy weapons that also don't require unusual/rare creatures bound/cut up to start up.
 
egoo said:
Unless we somehow get more of the Dreadnoughts captive, it is highly unlikely we'll get these things in amount anywhere near that they'd play well in strategic capacity.

And they aren't easy to find, or capture.

So, I don't think the project worth it when we are already looking into exotic energy weapons that also don't require unusual/rare creatures bound/cut up to start up.
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DP has already confirmed we're allowed to combine research actions for the Astral Dreadnaught and the Anti-Magic Artifact we recovered from Lyceos.

You might not think it's worth it, but I disagree.

EDIT: Even if there wasn't the combined research option, what led you to believe we needed more Astral Dreadnaughts? We have a functioning Flesh Forge. We could easily carve it up in there and reverse-engineer whatever made the anti-magic cone.
 
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Duesal said:
DP has already confirmed we're allowed to combine research actions for the Astral Dreadnaught and the Anti-Magic Artifact we recovered from Lyceos.

You might not think it's worth it, but I disagree.
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...wait, really?

We don't even have a clue as for what that Artifact does, and yet by a WoG it's compatible already..?

...alright.
I'm weirded out a little, but alright.
 
egoo said:
...wait, really?

We don't even have a clue as for what that Artifact does, and yet by a WoG it's compatible already..?

...alright.
I'm weirded out a little, but alright.
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It's two different avenues to at-will Anti-Magic Field. I asked and got confirmation.

Also, what do you mean we don't have a clue? We identified it when we got it.
 
Duesal said:
It's two different avenues to at-will Anti-Magic Field. I asked and got confirmation.

Also, what do you mean we don't have a clue? We identified it when we got it.
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Ah, have we?

I was under the impression that Anti-Magic was but an unintended side-effect of the Plinth - seeing as it was broken.
I remember there being an assumption that the main function is something else..?
 
Duesal said:
Other things have priority, of course, that's why this isn't being researched right away. I'm getting a bit annoyed that there's a near constant squabble over using the Astral Dreadnaught as a sacrifice right this second when the research benefits are so clear.
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From the top of my head, a list of things we've collected for further research and on the pile doing nothing:

Blue Ice Frost Dragon Bones
Aspect of Tiamat's Corpse
An Astral Dreadnaught
The Reaper's Scythe
A Landwyrm Egg
The Rakshasas's Weapon
That Anti-Magic thingy from Lyceos
A Damaged Dragon Horn
The Fiery Cow?

And this list will just grow once we assault Tiamat's forces... Sigh! Whatever!
 
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Takesis said:
From the top of my head, a list of things we've collected for further research and on the pile doing nothing:

Blue Ice Frost Dragon Bones
Aspect of Tiamat's Corpse
An Astral Dreadnaught
The Reaper's Scythe
A Landwyrm Egg
The Rakshasas's Weapon
That Anti-Magic thingy from Lyceos
A Damaged Dragon Horn
The Fiery Cow?

And this list will just grow once we assault Tiamat's forces... Sigh! Whatever!
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Funny you should reference multiple things on that list which we are at present planning to research next turn.
 
Takesis said:
Blue Ice Frost Dragon Bones
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It's a material isn't it?
Sure, we have lots that we don't use in any capacity, and I am highly at fault for that myself, but it's not "doing mothing", it waits for whatever project that needs Blue Ice.
Takesis said:
Aspect of Tiamat's Corpse
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Being crafted into a "Fuck you and your high horse, Timmie!"-amulet 11th month.
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An Astral Dreadnaught
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fair.
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The Reaper's Scythe
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Waits for 12th or 1st month, then used up to upgrade DS.
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A Landwyrm Egg
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Wut?
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The Rakshasas's Weapon
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Fair, the shit is too caustic to use in upgrading DS, so it'll likely not be used for a while.
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That Anti-Magic thingy from Lyceos
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Also fair, not a priority yet, although apparently there had been some misunderstanding around it too.
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A Damaged Dragon Horn
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Wut?
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The Fiery Cow?
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Helaheh works on it.
 
egoo said:
Ah, have we?

I was under the impression that Anti-Magic was but an unintended side-effect of the Plinth - seeing as it was broken.
I remember there being an assumption that the main function is something else..?
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It is broken, but we can literally just ask Saenena what it was supposed to do. It used to be hers, and we have every right to that information IC.
Takesis said:
From the top of my head, a list of things we've collected for further research and on the pile doing nothing:

Blue Ice Frost Dragon Bones
Aspect of Tiamat's Corpse
An Astral Dreadnaught
The Reaper's Scythe
A Landwyrm Egg
The Rakshasas's Weapon
That Anti-Magic thingy from Lyceos
A Damaged Dragon Horn
The Fiery Cow?

And this list will just grow once we assault Tiamat's forces... Sigh! Whatever!
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:facepalm: It's honestly starting to get draining to deal with this.

1. The Blue Ice Frost Dragon bones were never anything special, you're mistaken on that end. It's just Blue Ice. It's a rare material, but nothing more. We used some to craft Rina a set of Reinforced Segmented Blue Ice Fullplate.
2. Tiamat's Aspect is going to be used as part of the focal point to trap a second Aspect for the Well of Souls. Once that's done, Dany gets either a cloak out of it or a new set of armor.
3. The Astral Dreadnaught has been explained to death
4. The Reaper's Scythe will likely be consumed as part of upgrading Dark Sister
5. The Landwyrms were explicitly a pain to deal with, even for Valyria in its prime. We were never in a true hurry to hatch this thing.
6. The Rakshasa's weapon will also likely be consumed as part of upgrading Dark Sister.
7. The Anti-Magic thing is a strategic asset that will eventually be reverse-engineered.
8. The damaged dragonhorn isn't a priority, because we don't have that many dragons. Even if we had problems with the current dragons, it's trivial to dominate them.
9. The Hadhayosh happens to be rather easy to free in terms of research thanks to the new Flesh Forge, and I was going to push for Saenena and Alyneah to get to it either this turn or next turn depending on where things stand. With that done all of a sudden that's a CR 18 Fire Bull that's very friendly to us.
 
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Duesal said:
The Rakshasa's weapon will also likely be consumed as part of upgrading Dark Sister.
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I can prolly find the quote when I get back home this evening, but DP ruled that the thing is far too corrupted by Bloodstone Emperor's/Rakshasa influence to safely use in Dark Sister's upgrade.

It's only worth is either as a weapon or an RA to look into Rakshasa Artifacts.

Well, or as a sacrifice. More likely, even, since I remember it nor really fitting anyone.
 
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